How to Pick Emerging Managers in 2026

Pavel Prata asked me if I was interested in writing a guest post on his blog a few months back. To which I responded with the fact, that I’m not sure there was much for me to add to the LP ecosystem that I haven’t written about already. And bless how supported he is, but he challenged me to write an updated summation of everything I’ve learned about investing in emerging managers as a progression of how much I’ve learned since I first wrote my initial blogpost that put me on the map in LP-GP land. Which to this point, I hadn’t written something public-facing on that. So eventually, after much inspiration, I finally did.

Now a few months later, I’m finally glad to share it here as well on this blog. I’m not going to include the nice formatting and graphics that Pavel and his team made, so if you want to check those out and for potentially, easier readability, check out my post here.

But without further ado, and thank you Pavel for the inspiration, voila!


david zhou, cup of zhou, superclusters
Author’s note: God, I put on some weight for this photo.

The preface

In many ways, I sit in a place of privilege. I grew up in the Bay Area, and while I was not born into a household of tech, nor did I have any relatives who were deep in the tech ecosystem, I was fortunate to have friends who were and are far more tech forward than I was.

I remember being in elementary school in โ€˜05 and my best friends were deadset on trying to get an account on this new-ish website called Thefacebook. And the primary reason was that we got bored of Club Penguin. The site needed us to be 18 or older (or at least we needed to be some age that we werenโ€™t. We were still living out our best single-digit lives), but I donโ€™t think anyone was really checking. Three misfits. One of us usually received detention for getting in fist fights. His brother would receive principal office visits for making other kids cry. Blunt guy. If your drawing was ugly, heโ€™d be sure you knew. But both were and are good people.

The first would get in fights defending his friends from getting bullied. The second, while lacking social cues, would always sit down with you to help you improve your skills. And me, the supposed โ€œgoody-two-shoesโ€ of our misfits who would follow rules, yet get in trouble trying to get them out of detention. And frankly, none of us were good with our words. Then and maybe still now. Yet nevertheless, one of my buddies found his way to a .edu email address from volunteering at the school library. And that was all we needed to get into the โ€œbig kids club.โ€

I went to a school in the Bay Area, due to it being the far cheaper alternative of the schools I would have loved to go to. There I got involved in the startup ecosystem really early on because of my zealotic obsession with free food in college. (Story for another day.) I became a startup investor because the accelerator was short on hands, and it was through the first startup I was with that I knew they existed as a non-profit at the time. I became an LP because of a community I was helping run and someone asked me to invest as an individual LP for only $1,000 to his oversubscribed fund that โ€œI [had] been really helpful in building.โ€ To this day, I still donโ€™t think I did anything. Then, I somehow built a network of LPs and GPs because I wrote one blogpost that was supposed to be my personal how-to-be-an-LP 101 that went serendipitously further than I expected.

And I say all of that to preface that:

  1. My life is full of accidents and being lucky at the right place at the right time with the right people.
  2. As a caveat that you should take all the words that will populate below with the biases that I may be coming to the table with.

That said, I do believe that life is all about increasing the surface area for luck to stick. Thereโ€™s a line I really like that I came across a few years ago by Qi Lu, who created Bing, Microsoftโ€™s search engine and is the former COO of Baidu: โ€œLuck is like a bus. If you miss one, thereโ€™s always the next one. But if youโ€™re not prepared, you wonโ€™t be able to jump on.โ€

When Pavel asked me to write a step-by-step guide on how to choose managers in 2026, my immediate thought was that I couldnโ€™t ever write it from the stance I have today, but if I were starting all over from nothing, except capital to invest, where would I begin?

Yet knowing what I know now, with the network I have now, with the brand I have nowโ€”though I still have a long way to go, how is investing in emerging managers today different from the last few years?

As such this essay will be split in two overarching sections:

  1. For the LP whoโ€™s just reached the block
  2. For the LP whoโ€™s been around the block

A big thank you to Beezer Clarkson, Dave McClure, and Narayan Chowdhury for proofreading, guiding and helping me frame early drafts of this piece.

For the emerging LP

One of my good friends described investing in venture funds in the 2020s as โ€œexpert modeโ€, as opposed to when he started in 2001 as โ€œthe tutorial.โ€ He said that in 2001, there were 200 firms in total in the market. That he met with half of the firms in the market. Then invested in two-thirds of the firms he met with. And that resulted from three vintages that returned 5X net on his venture fund portfolio. According to him, every fund he invested in was an emerging manager. The whole asset class was an emerging asset class.

Today is undeniably harder than itโ€™s ever been to be a venture fund LP. Thousands of firms in-market. Everyone tells you theyโ€™re the greatest fund since sliced bread. Or in their words, theyโ€™re top quartile, if not top decile. Everyone tells you they have unique access. Yet most people generally have access to the same โ€œlegibleโ€ deals. Or at least, โ€œlegibleโ€ founders which include a river of backwards bias. So, who has โ€œbetterโ€ access? Time horizons are realistically 12-15 years, instead of the 10 years people pitch you. Plenty of GPs quietly โ€œretireโ€ after 2-3 years to go work at a portfolio company or โ€œget acquiredโ€ by a larger platform. IPO markets havenโ€™t fully opened yet, and there just isnโ€™t enough private capital to deploy into the largest companies. 2025 has been an interesting year of one of the lowest years in dollars raised, but one of the highest, with respect to dollars deployed. Six-layer SPVs, where the individual who manages the sixth layer has no idea who actually owns the underlying asset, just a forward contract towards the stock.

The first question you need to ask yourself, and likely the most important question, you need to ask yourself is if someone pitches you their fund, and itโ€™s Wonderbread, why are you so lucky?

How are you luckier than the most established institutions whoโ€™ve done this for decades? How are you luckier than people who are college roommates with Sam Altman? How are you luckier than multi-stage venture funds who have a strong brand AND an active fund-of-funds program that invests in managers sharing their deal flow with them? How are you luckier than content creators who get pitched VC guests all the time? How are you luckier than the owner of Buckโ€™s or Coupa or the real estate firms who own buildings on Sand Hill Road?

More likely than not, youโ€™re not. Iโ€™m not.

A long-time private equity allocator friend of mine has this great line, โ€œThere are only two kinds of people who make money. Really smart people and dumb people who know theyโ€™re not smart enough to beat the market. Everyone in between has just enough knowledge to make dumb decisions.โ€

Thereโ€™s a great line by the legendary Richard Feynman. โ€œThe first principle is that you must not fool yourselfโ€”and you are the easiest person to fool.โ€ Remember that.

So, after all those disclaimers, do you just not invest?

If the above scares you, probably not. Youโ€™re more likely to generate consistent returns by investing in the indices. But if youโ€™re willing to put in the blood, sweat and tears, maybe the below might be of value to you.

The first step is to see a lot of deals. You have no idea what quality looks like until youโ€™ve seen quality. Otherwise youโ€™re spending a good chunk of time imagining what could be and what should be, but not is. Just like the GPs we evaluate need to prove they can โ€œsee, pick and winโ€, we as LPs have to do the legwork to see the best deals, to build the framework to pick them, and to win the deals that are hard to come by. But first, on seeingโ€ฆ

Itโ€™s like dating for the first time. I donโ€™t know about you, and this might be TMI (too much information). Before I dated my first girlfriend, I had all these ideas implanted in me from Hollywood, Hallmark movies, Matthew McConaughey, Sandra Bullock, Anne Hathaway, Hugh Grantโ€”you get the point. I had these faint, rose-tinted ideas of how my future partner should, would, could act. But when I finally started dating, reality was wildly different from expectations.

The same is true when you look at funds. Whether itโ€™s media, podcasts, or newsletters, they all tell you a warped perception of the reality of the market, told through the lens of a world that is most beneficial to their incentives. You need to figure it out your own. And when you do in the first year, maybe a bit longer, you will inevitably talk to more noise than signal. Accept that fact.

To get inbound, you need to do a combination of a few things. Pick your battles here:

  • Put โ€œLPโ€ on LinkedIn. You will have random GPs find you in their search engines and reach out. Almost all will be noise here, unfortunately.
  • Go to events that attract GPs (i.e. EMC Summit, RAISE Global, Bridge Funding Global, SuperVenture, FII, Upfront Summit, etc.). Your priority here is to go to the side events that arenโ€™t publicly disclosed that have LPs and GPs. If you canโ€™t get in there, go find the LP/GP Happy Hours and dinners that are shared on Eventbrite, Luma, and/or Partiful. And if still you canโ€™t get in, at these events, there are occasional speed dating breakout sessions.
  • Reach out to LPs and ask to buy them coffee as you are learning to be an LP. You can find these LPs either on:
    • Podcasts (i.e. Swimming with Allocators, Origins, Venture Unlocked, How I Invest, Superclustersโ€”mentioning my friendsโ€™ platforms before my own)
    • Reacting to LP and emerging manager content. There are a few LP โ€œinfluencersโ€ out there. Note not only who reads and comments on these posts, but whether the original poster also replies back to those comments (which is a loose indicator on the depth of their relationship and if that commenter is somewhat respected in the ecosystem). FYI, donโ€™t use me as a barometer, since I try to reply back to everyone. But a couple โ€œinfluencersโ€ that might help you kickstart your search. Beezer Clarkson, David Clark, John Rikhtegar, Meghan Reynolds, Endowment Eddie (on X), Dan Gray, James Heath, Matt Curtolo, and so on. Occasionally, Hunter Walk, Charles Hudson, Rick Zullo, Peter Walker and a few other VCs also post good LP content. OpenLP is also a great platform that captures the most interesting thoughts regularly, as well as what Pavel is building now too.

Now, that you have a list of GPs and your calendar has a few meetings set up, you ideally get GPs to share their decks with you before the meeting. Although, understandably, it is harder for GPs to trust you with their decks if you havenโ€™t yet built up social capital and trust.

If you can get the deck, I look for a few things. At least one interesting thing on the deck that can help the GP see more deals, pick better deals, or win competitive deals. And (b) is that โ€œthingโ€ an insight that the GPโ€™s prior background would have made explicit or obvious to that GP? For me, thatโ€™s enough to take a first meeting. Do note that most decks look the same. And if you canโ€™t tell one deck from another (thatโ€™s okay, I started like that too), ask the GP before the interview, something along the lines of: โ€œOf everything that is on your deck about the fund, is there one thing about you or your fund you hope that I catch that youโ€™re really proud of but thereโ€™s a chance I might not notice?โ€

Naturally, you can ask that question, even if you donโ€™t have the deck, and if their answer impresses you, take the meeting. I call that โ€œsuspense.โ€ Partial information that I am privy to that elicits further questions and curiosity. To engage with any GP, I need that first.

So then I share my calendar. I use Calendly, but youโ€™re welcome to use any alternative. And I include the below text along with the calendar invite to set expectations.

calendly

Do note that the meeting is only 15 minutes long. You donโ€™t have to do this, but I find it useful because Iโ€™ve seen a number of GPs already. My CRM tells me just under 1000 that Iโ€™m actively tracking. But there are definitely more in the universe. All that to say, Iโ€™ve come to realize for myself that I figure out if I want to continue a conversation with a GP or not within the first 5-10 minutes.

The only thing Iโ€™m looking for in the meeting is โ€œsurprise.โ€ Is there something I can learn from the GP that I didnโ€™t know before? About them? About the industry? About the technologies? Ideally, you also consume quite a bit of information outside of each conversation. For instance, I read research papers, talk to people I think are smart, listen to podcasts, read newsletters, and build things here and there. The more information you consume outside, the higher your bar for โ€œsurpriseโ€ will be over time.

And if I learn something, only then, do I actually start doing homework around the fund opportunity. And spending more time with a GP.

Diligence

For the purpose of this section, Iโ€™m going to prioritize diligence as it relates to people. Iโ€™ll talk about portfolio sizing and construction in the section below. Iโ€™m also going to assume you donโ€™t have the ideal network to diligence the opportunity. What does the ideal network look like?

A small selection of A-players (founders, operators, co-investors, and LPs) that you trust AND they trust you to withhold judgment about them, as well as keep what they tell you in the highest level of confidence.

Admittedly, this will take time to build. Some longer than others. Your mileage may vary from multiple months to many years, sometimes decades. And this will be a part of your job as an LP to continually refine.

But in lieu of that, hereโ€™s where Iโ€™d start:

  1. Find who are A-players. Needless to say, before you can build a relationship with A-players, you must first be able to recognize A-players. Admittedly, this is a lot of legwork. And everyone approaches this part differently. For me, I have to consume a large amount of information from disparate knowledge networks, talk to different people and see who they respect, listen to a lot of podcasts, read a lot of books and content, in hopes of triangulating clarity of thought, as well as executional discipline. I donโ€™t have a silver bullet here unfortunately, but here are a few traits Iโ€™ve seen over the years that seem to have moderate to high correlation with A-players.
  2. Find out what motivates and drives them. What do they need? What do they want? What do most people fail to understand about them? This will also take time, potentially longer than the first step. Your job for now is to establish trust and rapport. โ€œWhat you share with me will never find its way back to the person I am calling about.โ€
  3. And as youโ€™re doing all the above, and still looking at deals. For people you know well and you can attest to their intellectual and executional rigor, ask them for their opinion. For everyone else, focus on asking about the facts. Youโ€™ll need to use the facts to piece together a narrative. Instead of โ€œWho do you likeโ€, ask โ€œWhen did you last talk to X?โ€ or โ€œHow many intros did this GP make for you? And how were you introduced?โ€

Naturally as part of diligence, you need to figure out and corroborate if a GP has an edge. Risks and weaknesses will always be present. Also, expect to get negative references. Any ambitious person is bound to ruffle feathers and rub people the wrong way. If you donโ€™t find any, youโ€™re either talking to the wrong people or you havenโ€™t given those people a safe space to talk. Also I want to note, as Cendanaโ€™s Kelli Fontaine once told me: โ€œNeutral references are worse than negative references.โ€

Negative referencesUnderstanding why itโ€™s negative is important. Is it merely a disagreement on perspective? Or is it evidence or an account of poor work ethic, abrasiveness, lack of open-mindedness, or poor morals?

For instance, โ€œGP didnโ€™t work that hard at our companyโ€ is not all bad, depending on their answer to โ€œWhat did they do outside of work?โ€ If the answer is โ€œI donโ€™t knowโ€, then your job is to find out what they did and if they worked hard there instead because working at their last company didnโ€™t align with their goals.

To give another example, a friend of mine once did a reference on a founderโ€”the lesson is the sameโ€”where a reference told him, โ€œI really hated how X always wore tank tops and sandals when the office culture required us to be put together.โ€ And many of his former colleagues all said the same thing. Yet no one ever complained about the work he did. Because despite his poor dress code, his output was in the top percentile on the team.

GPs, by nature of pitching a (hopefully) new narrative and charting their own path, will be controversial. Itโ€™s just part of the game. But obviously, it should not discount any bad behavior.

Other comments that belie a referenceโ€™s negative sentiment about someone:
โ€œThe GP is interesting.โ€ Interesting is usually a quiet opinion withheld. Itโ€™s always helpful in these situations to prod deeper.

โ€œI like the GP as a friend/human.โ€ Why donโ€™t you like this GP as an (investment) professional?
Neutral referencesNeutral references come in different shapes and sizes. Note that if you ask leading questions, youโ€™ll get safe answers. For example, โ€œDo you like X?โ€ leads to an answer of โ€œOh yes, I like X.โ€

The most common form of neutral references are often masked by positive, generic adjectives, but canโ€™t be substantiated by real examples. Other forms include not remembering who the GP was despite the GP being on the cap table, or working together. Also, on-list references who opt to text/email you about their commentary on a GP instead of call. Or taking a really long time to schedule time with you to talk about the GP, versus immediately leaping out of their chair to tell you about a GP. In addition to that, references (usually on-list or their most notable co-investors or founders) who didnโ€™t even know that the GP was raising a fund or what the GP would be investing into.
Positive referencesPositive ones luckily are the easiest to spot. And itโ€™s not just the words you hear, but the emotions you feel when someone tells you about the GP. These references, whether they say it explicitly or not, would go to war for the GP.

Peter Fenton at Benchmark recently shared a line I really like. “The highest accolade of a firm that they seek is a manifestation of a value system.” Most investmentsโ€”both at the level of an angel investment, but also a number of institutional investmentsโ€”are written as one-night stands. The majority, if not all, of the conversations happen T-3 months before an investment is made. Then as soon as the investment happens, outside of the monthly or quarterly updates, and maybe the board meetings, no other meaningful conversation happens post-investment. And the truth is if an investor hasnโ€™t built their value system (and for that matter, value-add system) before they start their firm, theyโ€™re not likely to change their behavior and their habitual cycles after they start their firm. Moreover, noting my bias, I prefer to invest in GPs where I am investing in the worst version of their firm on the day I invest. That itโ€™ll only get better. And to do so, certain things need to compound: brand, value, network, among others. In order for that to happen, they need to have built a relationship, as opposed to a one-night stand, with many of their investments, even beyond their best ones. So the point of doing diligence is to find evidence of their firmโ€™s value system before they start it.

Having shared the above, now that you have time with the GPs and some of their references, what do you ask?

Note that the below arenโ€™t all-encompassing nor exhaustive questions and that you usually get more from asking follow-up questions instead of building a checklist of questions to ask. Merely, the below serve as a point of inspiration as you do your own due diligence. As such, Iโ€™ve structured the below into categories on how I assess a GPโ€™s ability to see, pick and win through the reference calls I do, segmented by reference archetype.

Seeing

What does their sourcing engine look like? How much is inbound? How much is outbound? Do they have access to proprietary channels for deal flowโ€”even if momentarily? Do they know people who add value to the innovation ecosystem, but arenโ€™t well connected to the rest of the innovation ecosystem?

I will note that most GPs will say most of their deal flow comes from founder referrals.

RecipientQuestionsWhat I Look For
The GPHow do you find opportunities before anyone else?Are they fishing in new uncharted territories? Do they have non-redundant networks and access points?
FoundersHow did you first meet this GP? Do you remember the type of conversation you initially had with said GP?
If the GP met this person via an event: How often do you go to these events? Outside of meeting this GP, whoโ€™s the most memorable friend youโ€™ve made via the event?
If the two met via an intro: How often do you catch up with your mutual friend? Has your mutual friend introduced you to other investors?
Iโ€™m trying to understand how much of a GPโ€™s deal flow is inbound versus outbound. As well as how repeatable certain deal flow channels and nodes are.
Co-InvestorsHow is this GPโ€™s deal flow different from yours? Why havenโ€™t you pursued building out your own network in this field?Can [insert big firm] just do what this GP can? Is there a structural moat?
LPsFor the funds you were also looking at or have in your portfolio, who seems to have the same deal flow channels as this GP?Institutional LPs see a lot, and as a function, they likely see a lot of overlap in inbound channels. So for people who have the same channels, why does a certain GP capture value from it better than the rest?
Ex-colleaguesIn what situations do you typically find this GP to be proactive when you used to work with her/him?
What has this GP done that no one with her/his job title has ever done in the past?
How entrepreneurial is the GP? Is the new firm the first instance of their entrepreneurial nature or is this part of the GPโ€™s inherent nature?

Picking

Thereโ€™s a saying in the land of LPs. โ€œYou donโ€™t have to invest in every great fund, but every fund you invest in has to be great.โ€

So the question comes down to: how do you know if someone is great?

RecipientQuestionsWhat I Look For
The GPWhy have you and havenโ€™t you put the most amount of capital behind your portfolioโ€™s greatest value driver?
If we could go through each of your past investmentsโ€”good and badโ€”can you enlighten me on why you invested in each?
The first question is figuring out if a GP understands how early and how much to put in their greatest outperformers. What signals do they rely on? Are they ready to invest with reserves?
The second question is to understand how the GPโ€™s ability to recognize excellence and insights has evolved. How quickly they ramp up. How many investments it takes for them to shift the way they think. At what point, do previous investments impact the way they make future investments?
FoundersWhat kinds of conversations did you have with the GP before they gave you a term sheet? How long did that journey take? Were you surprised at all? How did the conversations with this GP differ from the other ones you had?From the perspective of a recipient, how much of a GPโ€™s intention is well-understood before the GP embarks on a commercial relationship with the founder(s)?
Co-InvestorsHow often do you take intros the GP sends your way? Was that always the case?
How has your relationship with this GP evolved over time? Where do you foresee it evolving towards?
Do investors understand and value a GPโ€™s eye for people and opportunities?
With the second set of questions, Iโ€™m trying to understand how much a co-investor values this GPโ€™s deals. If the co-investor works at a multi-stage fund, have they ever tried to hire this GP into their firm? Or had them as a scout? Or is it a purely, โ€œitโ€™s nice to have you in our orbitโ€ kind of relationship?
LPsHow have you directly experienced the value of being an LP?Have the GPs provided any value to their existing LPs? Iโ€™m primarily looking at GPs who claim to offer co-invest opportunities. Do they (a) know the founders well enough to get allocation for people the founders likely donโ€™t know or trust yet, and (b) how much do they optimize for whatโ€™s best for the fund versus whatโ€™s best for the LPs?
With (b), itโ€™s not a bad thing to optimize for the fund, but setting expectations is important, instead of claiming to be helpful to LPs without actually being helpful.
Ex-colleaguesHas this GP hired anyone in the past that youโ€™ve genuinely impressed with? Why were you impressed by these individuals? Has this GP done anything to help these individuals succeed over time?Thereโ€™s no direct parallel between hiring and investing, but in terms of recognizing talent, there are some similarities.

Winning

Why do the worldโ€™s best founders want to work with you? What do you have to offer that others donโ€™t? Why would a world-class founder have you on the cap table when there are so many great options out there (and even when thereโ€™s that much inbound interest)?

RecipientQuestionsWhat I Look For
The GPWhat is your proudest piece of advice you gave a founder or the proudest thing you did for a founder?
What’s something you did for a founder or a piece of advice you give that didn’t work out? What’s something you did/piece of advice that did better than you expected?
Can I see every single version of your pitch deck to date? (If thereโ€™ve been previous vintages, ask for those as well.)
Iโ€™m primarily looking for specificity. Was it proactive or reactive? And when corroborating with said founder later on, will that founder reflect the same sentiment?
With regards to the second and third questions, do you measure when things deviate from expectationsโ€”good or bad?
My goal with the last question is to understand how the GPโ€™s thinking has evolved over time. How has the GPโ€™s ability to storytell changed? Do they have a better grasp of how they can add value and what founders actually want over time?
FoundersWhich other investors did you talk to before you took this GPโ€™s check?
Did you know that you were going to be a hot commodity? When and how did you know?
How did the GP help when things werenโ€™t going well? How did the GP react when things turned downwards?
Was there competition for the round? Itโ€™s neither good nor bad if there was. And if there was, why did they end up taking this GPโ€™s check? Would they still take it if this GP wrote double the check and asked for double the ownership?
Co-InvestorsWhat value does this GP bring to the table that seems to be a constant ask from your portfolio companies?Why will fellow investors fight for this GP to be on the cap table?
LPsWho were the most elucidating individuals you talked to best appreciate this GPโ€™s value-add?Are there people you should have talked to but have yet to? Or are there people you talked to but asked the wrong set of questions? Or whom youโ€™ve yet to build rapport with?
Ex-colleaguesWhat would you say is this GPโ€™s greatest asset/skillset? How have you seen it in practice?
Whoโ€™s the best person you know of for [insert what the GP claimed as value add]? Why? On that same scale, where this person is a 10, where does the GP sit? What would help this GP get to a 10?
A-players typically know other A-players, and understanding how they rank a GP among all the other practitioners they know is valuable intel.

Gravitational pull

To tie the above together, there is no perfect emerging GP. And if they are, theyโ€™re probably not an โ€œemergingโ€ GP. I look for emerging GPs who excel in two of the three areas (see, pick, win). One in isolation wonโ€™t help. If youโ€™re the worldโ€™s best sourcer, but you donโ€™t know how to pick the right one even when it falls on your lap, or you donโ€™t know how to get the founder to choose you over others, then sourcing alone is for naught.

I look for GPs to have an unfair advantage in two of the three areas. I need the cards stacked in their favor. Oftentimes, their unfair advantages are further accented by what first surprised me in the first meeting or two. Furthermore, gravitational pull comes from acknowledgement of their unfair strengths, as well as the constant refinement of the craft that increases the firmโ€™s leverage over time.

Partnership risk

One other important element to underwrite is partnership risk. To many experienced allocators, like Ben Choi once told me, this may even be the single biggest risk an LP has to underwrite. If youโ€™re investing in a partnership, chemistry really matters. They may look great on paper. They may have complementary skillsets. But do they talk about each other in ways that raise each other up? How are decisions made? Is there a power imbalance? How is compensation shared (salary and carry)? How much do they not only respect but adore the othersโ€™ strengths? How do they resolve conflict? Have they disagreed with each other before?

Portfolio construction and sizing

By the time you decide to invest in funds (or directly into startups too), you need to understand that youโ€™re building a portfolio. Unless your hands are blessed by a higher being or that you have the Midas touch, there is a ridiculously low chance you can pick 2-3 funds and expect theyโ€™ll outperform. Naturally, you want all the funds you do invest in to do well, but sometimes in this world, you can do everything right and have things still not work out. So expect, on average, most funds will return you 0.8-5X their money back to you.

So there are a few things you need to figure out:

  1. Assuming things go right, and youโ€™ve invested in this 5X fund:
    • Is a 5X net (which is roughly a little over 6X gross) return on your investment meaningful to you and your net worth?
      • If not, then the question comes down to: Is there something else you value from investing in this fund? Some value co-investment opportunities. I know of a number of venture funds, traditional fund-of-funds, and multi-family offices, who see their fund-of-fund program as a loss leader, with the primary goal of the fund-of-funds to generate deal flow for their direct investment practice. As an emerging LP, do consider that if you want co-investment opportunities, are you the largest (or at the minimum, one of the largest LP checks who care about co-investments)? If not, then consider the reality of why would the GP ever give you the best deal flow if youโ€™re not their greatest (monetary) supporter.
      • If so, great. But at the risk of it being a 0.8X net fund, meaning you not only lost money to decision-making, but also to inflation and the opportunity cost of investing in a public market index, can you stomach the loss 12-15 years from now?
        • If not, invest a smaller check size.
        • If so, great.
    • Whatever is needed to 5X the fund, what is the exit value necessary for that?
      • If a GP has no reserves and invests pre-seed/seed, assume 75-80% dilution by the time of exit for the fundโ€™s greatest value drivers. This does not account for acquisitions, which will have a little more nuance. This also assumes that there will be 5-6 rounds of investment after the one the GP invests in.
      • If a GP has reserves, depending on the industry, and how much they continue doubling down on the investment, itโ€™s safe to assume 55-60% dilution. If the GP plans to continue doubling down on pro-rata past the Series A, do account for how much of the overall fund is allocated in a singular deal. Usually limited partner agreements cap it at around 15% of the overall fund, to allow for minimum diversification at the portfolio construction level.
      • And assuming you know the exit and enterprise value thatโ€™s needed to 5X the fund, do you believe thatโ€™s possible? Your job is to go into the internet archives and find, if in the last few years, what percent of companies in that industry has exited for that size. And how likely will it be for future companies to exit at that size? And even if so, do you believe the GP is in the right information flows to capture that outcome?
    • Is the number of companies the GP wants allocation into, reasonable to you? Every person has a different level of tolerance in this regard. To make some gross assumptions, if a GP invests in 50 companies in a fund, then they need a single company to 50X to return your money back once (obviously Iโ€™m taking the gross, not the net numbers). And they need a single company to 150X to 3X the fund. At a $10M post-money valuation, a 150X would turn the company into a $1.5B company. Again, do open a spreadsheet for this. Iโ€™m not accounting for dilution, fees, recaps, and a bunch of other things. This is purely a back-of-the-napkin version of: Do you believe a $1.5B outcome in this sector of choice is possible?
      • Do also note that given that venture is a power law business, a single value driver for a fund usually accounts for at least 60% of the overall fundโ€™s returns. 1-2 companies account for another 20-30%. And the rest, the last 10%. I also want to play my own devilโ€™s advocate that almost nothing in this industry is โ€œusual.โ€

Miscellaneous thoughts

  1. Donโ€™t invest in the first 50 funds you see. You will miss great deals. Thatโ€™s okay. You donโ€™t have to invest in every great fund, but every fund you invest in should be great.
  2. If youโ€™ve been out-of-market for more than a year, do the same. You need to know how people are hiding skeletons in their closet?
  3. Trust the data, but not the judgments of people who see a plethora of deals in venture. Have they seen other funds with the same strategy before investing in this one? What was different?
  4. Almost every fund you meet will say theyโ€™re top quartile or top decile. Be skeptical of benchmarking data, or for that matter, publicly available data that will suffer from availability and selection bias. Theyโ€™re either too opaque or delayed, and in the words of some institutional LPs, โ€œtotally fabricated.โ€
    • To borrow the words of my friend Peter Walker, whoโ€™s constantly cited for his Carta reports, โ€œโ€œYou should probably, if youโ€™re a founder, for instance, selectively ignore at least half of what Iโ€™m saying because it doesnโ€™t apply to you. And your job as a founder, your job as an investor, your job as a thoughtful person is to figure out which half.โ€
  5. Ignore the marketing jargon associated with โ€œselectโ€ track records GPs share with you. Ask for their schedule of investments (SOI), which should include all their investments to date, not just the ones they want you to see. Figure out your own valuation methodology, and prescribe that to their SOI.
    • For me, SAFE notes donโ€™t count as markups, only priced rounds. Any company that hasnโ€™t gotten reevaluated in the market for over 2 years receives a discount. The only exception is strong revenue growth since last round. Discount is based on public market comparables and their revenue multiples. Usually 7-8X on revenue for me. Not always.
    • If a GP gives you โ€œtargetโ€ or โ€œprojectedโ€ multiples, youโ€™re welcome to ignore the number outright. Whatโ€™s more interesting and important are what were the assumptions that led to the projection. What is the expected dilution? How many rounds is a company expected to raise before their projected exit? What is the assumed graduation rate per stage? What is the conservative estimate?
  6. Never trust the word of a GP. Spend more time on reference calls than you do with the GP. When doing references, if you know people really well AND believe they are the top 1% in what they do, ask for their opinion. Everyone else, ask for the facts.
  7. Make sure the data corroborates with the narrative. Is the data/track record repeatable? Being 0.1% on the cap table in three rocketship companies is very different from an investor co-founding a company. The relationship is different. In the former case, the founders, much less the executives, even remember a GP exists.
  8. When asking questions, roughly a third to a half of your questions should be the same across all managers, only then can you compare apples to apples.
  9. When spending time with the GP, find out what they donโ€™t want you to know. What are they scared of, that if you know, they think will look bad on them? Everyone has insecurities. Thatโ€™s okay. But only once you figure that out, can you better assess the information theyโ€™re telling you. And better yet, the information theyโ€™re not telling you. Which is what you eventually go to diligence.
  10. Sometimes thereโ€™s just no LP/GP fit. They might be a great fund, but you just donโ€™t feel the pull.
  11. Set expectations clear from the get-go. If youโ€™re in exploratory mode, say it. If youโ€™re actively deploying, say it.
  12. At any point in time, if you are no longer interested, and know that youโ€™re most likely not going to invest, say it. Itโ€™s better that a GP thinks youโ€™re not going to invest, then you do, than think youโ€™re going to invest, but you end up not.
  13. Be mindful of a GPโ€™s time. If youโ€™re not going to write the largest check as a function of a GPโ€™s fund, know you have limited time with them. Do not waste their time. Know you will have to do most of your homework without the help of the GP. If you want to be spoonfed diligence, this is the wrong asset class for you.

On spinouts, my primary concern is always: Were you successful because of your last firm or in spite of your last firm? If you no longer had the title you did last month or this month, would people engage with you differently? If youโ€™re the keynote for a large conference (i.e. SuperVenture, FII, iConnections, etc.) when you held your last position, will they still invite you back as a headliner when youโ€™re starting a new firm? When people talk about you behind your back about how amazing you are, do they talk in the past or present tense? Tactically, are you the ex-Redpoint partner or Tomasz? Are you ex-Greylock or Sarah? Are you ex-[insert big firm] or you?

As most insights, these will very rarely come out in conversation with the GP. More often than not, theyโ€™ll come out in diligence. Particularly off-list references. If you donโ€™t have the network, you have to rely on on-list references and maybe a few good friends, but know that there is no incentive for people to speak ill of someone else to a stranger. So diligence only the facts. Youโ€™re likely not going to get the honest โ€œopinionsโ€ you want to adequately understand an opportunity.

For established LP

If youโ€™re an established LP, you know most of the above. So instead, Iโ€™ll share a couple reminders that you may have heard before, but are paramount more today than before. Before I share them, hereโ€™s how Iโ€™m categorizing the difference between an emerging and an established, just because I know everyone has a different definition (i.e. AUM size, number of investments made, track record that extends for at least a decade, etc.). Do note, you donโ€™t have to check all the boxes. As long as you have most of the below traits of an โ€œestablished LPโ€, youโ€™re probably established. One of those touchy-feely things where when you see it, you know it.

Emerging LPEstablished LP
No prior network to lean onA robust network to source and diligence deals (meaning you get at least 5-10 quality referrals per month from legible people)
No brandA brand where people will start a conversation with you purely because of the jersey you have on
You need to go out hunting for deals. Show up/host events. Build a platform. Actively book time on peopleโ€™s calendars to find out whatโ€™s going on.(Related to the above) Inbound deal flow exceeds outbound, but with the understanding, to do your job well, you still need to do outbound.
You take time to deliberate on decisions. Understanding whatโ€™s going on takes time. If you were to look only at a pitch deck, outside of the metrics, you might struggle to understand whatโ€™s important. BTW, this is both good and bad. But good in the sense that you donโ€™t have prejudice. And youโ€™re more willing to uncover diamonds in the rough.You make fast โ€œnoโ€ decisions (at least internally). A function of the scar tissue and the training youโ€™ve had up to this point.
You invest opportunistically. You might not have the quality of deal flow to start a consistent deployment strategy. Thatโ€™s ok, BTW.You can invest opportunistically, but if you wanted, or have already, have capital and the network to deploy consistently against some schedule. Could be annually. Could be quarterly.
If you show up at any LP-only event, you might know the host and one other person at best.If you show up at a random LP only event, you know at least a few other LPs in the room by name.
Youโ€™re on an email basis, maybe LinkedIn basis with other allocators and investors. It will take time to build the relationships.Youโ€™re on a text/Whatsapp basis with other experienced LPs and they respond to you within a few hours, if not minutes.
You need to build out your systems for managing deal velocity and future volume. Easier to start when you have less volume. (Building out systems is an article to write for another day.)You have a system for tracking your deal flow pipeline, diligence, and keeping track of your portfolio and anti-portfolio investments.
Youโ€™re not intimately familiar with SEC (and others) regulations around the rules of engagement in LP land.You know exactly what compliance will let you and not let you say. And you know the right verbiage to dance around these topics.

So the reminders:

  1. Be open-minded. To have gotten this far in your investing career so far means youโ€™ve built biases to help you make better decisions. Likely, also faster decisions. Youโ€™ve probably used some phrase along the lines of โ€œThere will always be another train leaving the station.โ€ And youโ€™re right. Most are worth waiting on. But there will be a small, small select few that is worth breaking every rule you know for. The truly once-in-a-lifetime relationship (not just opportunity). Know that the greatest firms tomorrow do not look like the firms from before.
  2. To check your biases, ask yourself three questions:
    • What do you typically gravitate towards? Why? Was there a part of your past that led you to gravitate towards X?
    • What, for whatever reason, do you not like? What gives you allergic reactions? Why?
    • What, for whatever reason, do you not notice at all? Of all the skimming you do, what are the parts of the narrative that you most easily gloss over? Why?
  3. Numbers tell a very small part of the story.
  4. Whatโ€™s worth underwriting more than anything else is motivation. Motivation to outperform. Motivation why this upcoming fund means theyโ€™ll work harder than before. Motivation to get better at what they might already be good at. That means most of the work is qualitative, not quantitative.
  5. If youโ€™re an established institution, you already have a brand. You likely donโ€™t have to hunt for deals (regardless of what you tell your stakeholders). And itโ€™s probably all true. But you wonโ€™t always have that brand. So itโ€™s your job not to do a disservice to the brand. And almost always means you communicate expectations quickly and accurately.

There are two angles here.

  1. Do you want to play in emerging venture today?
  2. Do you want to re-up?

Emerging venture today is an asset class in and of itself. High attrition rates. Too many players. Lack of data. Lack of track record. Sometimes, even lack of network. The underwriting for someone who invests $250-500K checks is different from someone who typically leads rounds. The underwriting of a partnership potentially not yet fully formed until Fund N+2. Data rooms with missing data. A portfolio construction model that is a guestimate at best, completely made up at worst. Assuming youโ€™re reading this, you know that. And that it is a full-time job.

  1. How are you continually refreshing your networkโ€”both for sourcing and for diligence? Are you making sure your network isnโ€™t stale? All networks atrophy over time. How are you keeping your most helpful contacts fresh, incentivized, and willing to give you their honest thoughts? You donโ€™t need a lot here. It helps to optimize for at least 20 relationships, leaning largely into, and likely in the below order:
    • Fund-of-funds who see many deals and whose sole job is to evaluate emerging managers, and/or any institution who has a dedicated emerging manager program (i.e. Vanderbilt, Babson, Gresham, etc.)
    • Service providers (i.e. lawyers, fund accountants, fund admin) who get to know many emerging managers from a different angle
    • A select few hot founders who also angel invest and are superconnectors in their own right
    • Multi-stage fund GPs and partners who often co-invest with emerging managers. Focus on those who have dedicated event series and/or communities for emerging managers. I personally spend less time with venture funds with their own fund-of-funds programโ€”not because theyโ€™re not great, but theyโ€™re often biased to promote their own fund managers. Different story if I knew them before they launched their FoF program and I can get honest thoughts here. If you donโ€™t know who to target, thereโ€™s a select few namesโ€”say around 15-20โ€”that most active emerging managers love to have on their deck.

On re-ups:

  1. What are the incentives of the organization? Do your incentives as an institution still align as strongly with the GP as it did when you first invested?
  2. If not, have you communicated that pre-emptively with the manager?

In closing

Despite the surplus of information and the sheer number of venture funds (in the mid-to high thousands), none of us can do it alone. At least I donโ€™t believe we can. Why? Unlike the public markets where there is as close as we can get to parity of information. The private markets, especially early-stage investments, exhibit none of that. People win on asymmetry of information.

Jacob Miller once told me on the podcast that in investing, there are three things you need to understand. Inputs, frameworks, outputs. Outputs, you canโ€™t always control. But as long as you have good inputs and a great framework, your outputs should speak for themselves. With my blog, Iโ€™ve always tried to empower people with frameworks. With The Side Letter that Sam and I launched, weโ€™re trying to empower people with inputs you canโ€™t find anywhere else.

While Iโ€™d love to surmise all of LP investing in one fell swoopโ€”Pavelโ€™s given me quite the task at handโ€”the truth is I canโ€™t. The best I can do is to share the frameworks I use. The next step is for you to find the inputs that will drive your investment decisions. Those can come from leveraging a platform or community. Hell, even investing in other funds-of-funds. Or collecting asymmetric information yourself. Or a combination of both. Itโ€™s only a matter of how much time, attention, and energy you have on your hands.

As always, and I have to say this at the end of everything I write, the views expressed on this blogpost are for informational purposes only. None of the views expressed herein constitute legal, investment, business, or tax advice. Any allusions or references to funds or companies are for illustrative purposes only, and should not be relied upon as investment recommendations. Consult a professional investment advisor prior to making any investment decisions.


Again, a huge thank you to Beezer Clarkson, Dave McClure, and Narayan Chowdhury for proofreading early drafts of this piece to help me better refine my thoughts here. I wouldn’t be here without you.


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Who Should NEVER Start a VC Fund? | Sam Huleatt | Superclusters | S7E3

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โ€œLower barriers to entry doesnโ€™t mean higher probabilities of success.โ€ โ€” Sam Huleatt

Sam Huleatt is the co-founder of The Side Letter, a platform driving network-based research for capital allocators. Prior to The Side Letter, he created and ran the The LP Institute at VC Lab, as well as let On Deck Angels at On Deck. Moreover, he’s a serial founder, active angel investor in over 35 companies, and an active allocator in emerging fund managers, including the likes of Notation Capital, Orange Fund, Inuka Capital, Asylum Capital, and more.

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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[01:34] Sam’s childhood
[03:24] The most persistent myth about Sam he never bothered to correct
[05:47] Bottom-up vs top-down investor
[13:37] Can career VCs develop empathy for the founder?
[18:43] Traits of someone who should definitely start a fund
[26:45] Traits of someone who should NEVER start a fund
[28:09] Air of inevitability
[33:44] Why was Outlander VC inevitable?
[36:11] Where should 60% of your Fund I capital come from?
[41:47] Starting a VC fund is hard
[44:46] Do LPs like GP accelerators?
[51:35] Top 3 considerations for first-time LPs
[58:03] How many GPs should 1st-time LPs meet?
[1:01:06] Governing law of VC: Adverse selection
[1:04:40] Incentive alignment on fees
[1:06:36] Terms in LPAs vs side letters
[1:11:16] What is The Side Letter?

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โ€œA career VC has a lot more experience having been on boards. And because of that, because theyโ€™ve been a career VC, theyโ€™ve seen more companies operating at scale and the issues that come into play in those cases, whereas operators-turned-GPs often have a narrow aperture because theyโ€™ve spent most of their career at one or two companies. On the one hand, the operator-GP obviously has a lot of empathy for founders because theyโ€™ve been that founder, but they probably havenโ€™t experienced all of the difficult issues that come up as companies scale across lots of different environments. Career VCs have.โ€ โ€” Sam Huleatt

โ€œThe best investors have an air of inevitability. Itโ€™s not asking for permission or doing something because itโ€™s perceived to be high status.โ€ โ€” Sam Huleatt

โ€œLower barriers to entry doesnโ€™t mean higher probabilities of success.โ€ โ€” Sam Huleatt

โ€œMost people, after starting a fund, should assume that 60% of that Fund Iโ€”you should raise that from first-degree connectionsโ€”people you already know. It may not be easy, but if you donโ€™t have a network thatโ€™s large enough or has those resources, you either need to reconsider your fund target size or maybe you need to spend more time building your network before you start to go out and do that raise.โ€ โ€” Sam Huleatt

โ€œIf you donโ€™t have an edge going into [a GP] accelerator, youโ€™re certainly not going to find an edge in the accelerator.โ€ โ€” Sam Huleatt

โ€œWhy do the best GPs in the world want you to be on the cap table? A lot of people forget that a key aspect of venture is not just picking, but being picked. Thatโ€™s true for LPs and itโ€™s true for GPs.โ€ โ€” Sam Huleatt

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Gratitude and Deal Flow

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A few months ago, my good friend Sam hosted a happy hour for LPs, which he invited me to. There I caught up with a former fund-of-funds (FoF) manager who has booked some of the most impressive returns I’ve ever heard of for a pure FoF play. For context, more than one fund generated over 15X net distributions to their LPs. The numbers were enough to impress me. But I had to ask: “Across all the funds you were a part of, what is something that you look for that you’re reasonably confident others don’t?”

He said two things, but one stood out. “Gratitude. I look for managers who never forget who put them in business.”

In all honesty, I found that odd. Not because I disagreed. I love folks who recognize and are grateful to the people who got them to where they are today. But because it didn’t occur to me that it should be the top two things one should optimize for when picking managers. Naturally, it kept gnawing at me.

In my own experience, gratitude seems to compound. Grateful individuals thank you often and sometimes when you least expect it, and more often than not, assuming you’ve done real work to help them, they compliment behind your back. The people they talk to end up learning about you. Their teammates learn about you. And you’ve earned multiple occasions to meet their teammates and those close to them. When a GP or founder’s teammates leave and start new things, those people often think to call you first.

Grateful GPs often hire talent who are just as humble, and in turn, as second nature, extend their appreciation often. Those same GPs are more likely to invest in people who have similar traits as well. So, it begins this flywheel.

As an LP, I look for emerging GPs whose network and deal flow compounds over time. That the first moment I meet them is the smallest network they will ever have again. So I expect and underwrite a GP’s ability to compound deal flow over time. So Fund n+1 is better than Fund n, and Fund n+2 is exponentially better than Fund n. Gratitude is one way GPs can increase the surface area for serendipity to stick. For there to be more quality inbound opportunities in the future.

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Referencing Excellence

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Recently, I’ve had a lot of conversations with LPs and GPs on excellence. Can someone who has never seen and experienced excellence capable of recognizing it? The context here is that we’re seeing a lot of emerging managers come out of the woodwork. Many of which don’t come from the same classically celebrated institutions that the world is used to seeing. And even if they were, they were in a much later vintage. For instance, a Google employee who joined in 2024 is very different from a Google employee in 2003.

And there seem to be two schools of thought:

  1. No. Only someone who is fortunate enough to be around excellent people in an excellent environment can recognize excellence in others. Because they know just how much one needs to do to get there. Excellence recognizes excellence. So there’s this defaulting to logos and brands that are known concentrations of excellence. Unicorns. Top institutions. Olympians. Delta Force. Green Beret. Three Michelin-starred restaurants.
  2. Yes. But someone must constantly stretch their own definition of excellence and reset their standards each time they experience something more than their most excellent. The rose growing in concrete. The rate of iteration and growth matters for more. Or as Aram Verdiyan once put it to me, “distance travelled.”

Quite possibly, a chicken and egg problem. Do excellent environments come first or people who are born excellent and subsequently create the environment around themselves?

It’s a question many investors try to answer. The lowest hanging fruit is the outsourcing of excellence recognition to know excellent institutions and known excellent investors. The ex-Sequoia spinout. Ex-KKR. Ex-Palantir. First engineer at Uber. Or hell, they’re backed by Benchmark. Or anchored by PRINCO.

It’s lazy thinking. The same is true for VC investors and LP investors. As emerging manager LPs (and pre-seed investors), we’re paid to do the work. Not paid to have others do the work for us. We’re paid to understand the first principles of excellent environments. To dig where no others are willing to dig.

To use an extreme example, a basketball court can make Kobe Bryant an A-player, but Thomas Keller look like a C-player. Similarly, a kitchen will make Thomas Keller an A-player, but Ariana Huffington a C-player. Environments matter.

When assessing environments and doing references, that’s something that you need to be aware of. What does the underlying environment need to have to make the person you’re diligencing an A-player? Is the game they have willingly chosen to play and knowledgeable enough to play have the optimal environment that will allow them to be an A-player? Is the institution they’re building themselves conducive to elicit the A out of the individual?

Ideally, is there evidence prior to the founding of their own firm that has allowed this player to shine? Why or why not?

Did they have a manager that pushed them to excel? Was there a culture that allowed them to shine? Were they given the trust and resources to thrive?

And so, that leads us to references. I want to preface with two comments first.

One, as an investor, you will NEVER get to 100% conviction on an investment. It’s one of the few superlatives I ever use. Yes, you will never. Unless you are the person themselves, you will never understand 100% about a person. And naturally, you will never get to 100% conviction because there will always be an asymmetry of information.

Two, so… your goal should not be to get to total symmetry of information, nor 100% conviction. Instead, your goal is to understand enough about an opportunity so that you can sufficiently de-risk the portfolio. What that means is that when you meet a fund manager (or a founder, for that matter) across 1-2 meetings, you write down all the risk factors you can think of about the investment. You can call it elephants in the room, or red or yellow flags. Tomato. Tomahto.

Then, rank them all. Yes, every single one. From most important to least important. Then, somewhere on that list โ€” and yes, this is deeply subjective โ€” you draw a line. A line that defines your comfort level with an investment. The minimum number of risks you can tolerate before making an investment decision. For some, say those investing in early stage venture or in Fund I or II managers, that minimum number will be pretty high. For others, those whose job is to stay rich, not get rich, that minimum tolerance will be quite low. And that’s okay.

There’s a great line my partner once told me. You like, because; you love, despite. In many ways, the art of investing in a risky asset class is understanding your tolerance. What are you willing to love, despite?

The purpose of diligence, thereinafter, is to de-risk as many of your outstanding questions till you are ready to pull the trigger.

In regards to references, before you go further in this blogpost, I would highly recommend Graham Duncan’s essay “What’s going on here, with this human?” My buddy, Sam, also a brilliant investor, was the person who first shared it with me. And I’m a firm believer that this essay should be in everyone’s reference starter pack. Whether you’re an LP diligencing GPs. Or a VC doing references on founders. Or a hiring manager looking to hire your next team member.

Okay, let’s get numbers out of the way. Depending on the volume of investments you have to make, the numbers will vary. The general consensus is that one or two is too little, especially if it’s a senior hire or a major investment. Kelli Fontaine’s 40 reference calls may also be on the more extreme side of things. Anecdotally, it seems most investors I know make between five and ten reference calls. Again, not a hard nor fast rule.

That said, there is often no incentive for someone to tell a stranger bad things about someone who supported them for a long time. It’s why most LPs fail to get honest references because they haven’t established rapport and trust with a founder over time. Oftentimes, even in the moment. So, the general rule of thumb is that you need to keep making reference calls until you get a dissenting opinion. Sometimes, that’s the third call. Other times, is the 23rd call. If you’ve done all the reference calls, and you still haven’t heard from others why you shouldn’t invest, then you haven’t done enough (or done it right).

A self-proclaimed coffee snob once told me the best coffee shops are rated three out of five stars. “Barely any 2-4 stars. But a lot of 5-stars and a lot of 1-stars. The latter complaining about the baristas or owner being mean.” I’m not sure it’s the best analogy, but the way I think about references is I’m trying to get to the ultimate 3-star review. One that can highlight all the things that make that person great, but also understand the risks, the in’s and out’s, of working with said person.

For me, great references require trust and delivery.

  1. Establishing trust and rapport. What you share with me will never find its way back to the person I am calling about.
  2. Is the reference themselves legit? Is this person the best in the world at what they do?
  3. How well does this reference know said person? Have they seen this person at both their highs and lows? At their best and at their worst.
  4. The finer details, the possible risks, and how have they mitigated them in the past.

I will also note that off-list references are usually much more powerful than on-list references. Especially if they don’t know you’re doing diligence on the person you’re doing diligence on. But on-list references are useful to understand who the GP keeps around themselves. After all, you are the average of the people you hang out with most. As the one doing the reference checks, I try to get to a quick answer of whether I think the reference themselves is world-class or not.

While I don’t necessarily have a template or a default list of questions I ask every reference, I do have a few that I love revisiting to set the stage.

Also, the paradox of sharing the questions I ask is simply that I may never be able to use these questions again in the future. That said, references are defined by the follow-up questions. Rarely, if ever, on the initial question. There’s only so much you can glean from the pre-rehearsed version.

So, in good faith, here are a few:

  • If I told you this person was [X], how surprised would you be? Now there are two scenarios with what I say in [X]. The first is I pick a career that is the obvious “next step” if I were to only look at the resume. Oftentimes, if a person’s been an engineer their entire life, the next step would be being an engineering executive, rather than starting a fund. So, I often discount those who wouldn’t find it surprising. Those that say it is surprising, I ask why. The second scenario is where I pick a job that based on what I know about the GP in conversations is one I think best suits their skillset (that’s not running their own fund), and see how people react. The rationale as to why it’s surprising or not, again, is what’s interesting, not the initial “surprising/not surprising” answer itself.
  • If you were invited to this person’s wedding, which table do you think you’d be sitting at?
  • Have you ever met their spouse? How would you describe their spouse?
  • Who’s the best person in the world at X? Pick a strength that you think the person you’re doing a reference on has. See what the reference says. Ask why the person they thought of first is the best person in the world at it. If the reference doesn’t mention the GP I’m diligencing, then I stop to consider why.
  • What are three adjectives you would use to describe your sibling? I’ve written about my rationale for this question before, so I won’t elaborate too much here. Simply, that when most people describe someone else, they describe the other person comparatively to themselves. If I say Sarah is smart, I believe Sarah is smarter than I am. Or… if I say Billy is curious, I believe Billy is more curious than I am.
  • If I said that this person joined a new company, knowing nothing about this new company, what would your first reaction be?
    • Congratulate this person on joining!
    • Do a quick Google or LinkedIn search about the company.
    • As an angel, consider investing in the company (again, knowing nothing else)
  • How would you rate this person with regards to X, out of 10? What would get this person to a 10? Out of curiosity, who’s a 10 in your mind?
  • If you were to hire someone under this person, what qualities would you look for?
  • If you were to reach out to this person, what do you typically reach out about?
  • I hate surprises. Is there something I should know now about this person so that I won’t be surprised later?
  • Of all the media, gossip, and stories that surround this person, what would you say is the most misunderstood piece of lore about this person?

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How to Make People Feel Special at Events

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Guilty as charged, but I was doom-scrolling on Instagram recently and I came across a reel where two Formula 1 drivers were asked to guess the race track given only a racecar’s engine’s audio (vroom vroom). And to my absolute amazement, the two were able to guess track after track. Some answers seemed to have only taken them a few seconds to figure out.

The Instagram reel came from this YouTube video for those who are curious.

So I couldn’t help but notice, how well they knew each track. That they had taken special notice to all the small bumps in the road. The turns. How long each turn was. All of it, without any visuals. It’s for the same reason I am always impressed every time Bon Appetit’s Chris Morocco can recreate dishes by taste, smell and feel alone (no sight, he’s blindfolded). A lot of which is in line with the post I wrote last week. It’s not just about paying attention, but how to pay proper attention.

So this time around, I thought why don’t I bring this into the world of events. Something I’m deeply passionate about.

“Jonathan Yaffe, co-founder of the experience management platform, AnyRoad, defines an experience as something that stimulates at least three senses.”

I first read that line on page 146 in my buddy Lloyed’s book on community-building. And it made total frickin’ sense. Lloyed went on to write that Zoom sessions don’t count as experiences because it only engages one’s sight and sound. But events like Dining in the Dark, which my friend hosts, do count. Despite taking away sight, you’re tapping into taste, smell, and sound. The last of which occurs when there’s a band playing in the background, but with each course, a new instrument is added into the mix. And it’s because of experiences like these, they leave such strong impressions. Emotional impressions. Nostalgia.

Emotions, after all, are multi-sensory. And eliciting those emotions require you to fully commit. The question is how.

One of my favorite lessons I picked up during my time at On Deck was from Sam Huleatt. A strike is better than a spare. We were hosting sessions and events three to six times a month, depending on the time of the year. And Sam proposed that we go through an exercise. A thought experiment.

  1. What if we only did one event per month? If so, what would that look like?
  2. What if we only did one every quarter?
  3. And what if we only did one every year?

How does that change the way we think about events? What changes at each stage?

Honestly, one of my favorite exercises to go through when I feel compelled to hit a certain quantity and realize I have to find the optimal point between quantity and quality.

But since then, that inspired another set of thought exercises I do.

  1. If I had to host an event for just one person โ€” just one โ€” what would I do to make it an unforgettable experience?
  2. What would need to change if I did so for a four-person dinner?
  3. A six-person dinner?
  4. What about a 10-person event?
  5. What about for 50 people?
  6. For 100?
  7. For 1000?

And so on.

At some point, usually around 50 is when things start hitting scale. But let me break down why each of the above before 50 are inflection points:

  • 1 person. This person is your universe. You can’t make it any more tailored and personalized than this. It’s a date.
  • 4 people. For the most part, still only one conversation happens at a time, but now as the host, you have to make sure no one is left out.
  • 6 people. In my mind, this is the minimum number of people for more than one conversation to be happening at once. For the first time, you have to worry about flow of the event while you’re not capable of being present everywhere all at once.
  • 10 people. You not have more than two conversations going on. Juggling with two is easy; for some, that may not really be juggling. But once you’ve added a third and a fourth ball, then this is real juggling. Here, the host has to think not only about the number of conversations, but to pay attention to folks who become satellites to conversations. Watching for people who are distracted. Uncomfortable. On their phone. And so on. But also, when conversations go too long. As the host, finding ways for people to enter and exit conversations easily is vital. It’s better to have less time than to have too much time.
  • And 50 people. For the first time, you need to think about having more than one host. You can only scale your time and attention so much. So now you’re training a team to be as attentive, if not more, than you are.

The larger the event, one can say the more polyamorous you have to be. You have to deeply care for each person. And while everyone at your event likely knows you’re “dating” everyone else, if you can still make them feel special โ€” like the most important person in the world, that their time is valued, their attention is valued, and their presence, mind and insights even more so โ€” then you’ll have done something 99.9% of event hosts have not been able to do. Frankly, probably would rather not do. ‘Cause, at least if you start small, it’s not crazy work. It’s quite easy, just requires more effort than most are willing to give.

Other times, event hosts just scale their events too quickly. And hit scale before they find their magic. So, if you can, do unscalable things before you hit scale.

Notice when in a conversation someone’s eyes divert. Notice when they ask to leave to use the restroom. And notice when people lean in to a conversation, as opposed to lean back. Just like a racecar driver notices how many seconds a turn is, when there’s an indent in the road, when the brakes are glazed and the tires need to warm up without having to look at them.

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7 Lessons from My Time at On Deck

Last Friday was my last day with a team and a company I called home for the past 18 months. My brain’s been conditioned to expect a team sync every Monday and that every Wednesday is deep work Wednesday, but also a good time to catch up with my teammates. I’m going to miss these moments and more as I embark on a new chapter. To say the last 18 months were a rollercoaster would be an understatement, but I wouldn’t have traded a second for anything else. To see our community of the world’s most helpful investors grow from angels to syndicate leads to fund managers and LPs has been my absolute honor and pleasure. Today and every day forward, I’m thrilled to see where On Deck goes next as it continues to be the pillar behind talented and ambitious founders from the day they decide they want to change the world.

Needless to say, I’ve taken away many lessons over the past year and change. Among many investing lessons, a lucky seven of which have greatly changed the way I work. Changing up the pace here, this is also going to be my first blogpost where there is more audio than there is text.

1. Loom is my best friend

Shoutout to Andrew Rea for building a new habit in my life.

2. Don’t over-engineer

Hats off to Julian Weisser for reminding me to keep it scrappy.

3. Take breaks

A big thank you to Sam Huleatt, Vivian Meng and Soumya Tejam for reminders that we need to take one step back to take two leaps forward.

4. Check in on your team’s psyche weekly.

Another piece of Andrew Rea wisdom.

5. Don’t hold back your punches.

Cheers to Ari Gootnick for the joys of not holding back.

6. A strike is better than a spare.

Appreciate Sam Huleatt for showing me that quality matters more than quantity at times.

7. Question everything

Cheers to Shiva Singh Sangwan for relentlessly challenging the norms.


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The Non-Obvious Emerging LP Playbook

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Before we dive into this blogpost, I’ve been asked by my legal friends to include the below disclaimer. I have a version of this at the bottom of every blogpost, but nevertheless, it doesn’t hurt to reiterate it again.

The views expressed on this blogpost are for informational purposes only. None of the views expressed herein constitute legal, investment, business, or tax advice. Any allusions or references to funds or companies are for illustrative purposes only, and should not be relied upon as investment recommendations. Consult a professional investment advisor prior to making any investment decisions.


Back in the hallowed halls of my elementary school, I had a principal whose presence was always larger than life. He was often the optimist and, with words alone, could figuratively turn water into wine, and any mistake into an opportunity. Ironically, there was a sign that hung above the door to his office that read: Opportunity is nowhere. An odd sign that seemed to be the Hyde to his Jekyll.

I spent a whole year contemplating why. And on the last day of third grade, I finally mustered the courage to ask him.

“Mr. M, why do you have that sign above your door?”

“What sign?”

“The sign that says ‘Opportunity is nowhere.'”

He paused and chuckled, “David, it looks like I bought the wrong sign. It’s supposed to say ‘Opportunity is now here.’ But now that you mention it, you could say the only difference between no opportunities and endless opportunities is just one small space.”

In the venture market, that small space blossomed in late 2020. In a flurry of SPACs, secondary markets, and tech IPOs, exit opportunities for venture-backed companies were flourishing. There were multiple paths to liquidity. Tech employees saw their net worth grow, and more accredited investors were minted by the day. Alumni syndicates grew in membership and deal volume.

With a surplus of capital in the market, the money had to go somewhere. Not to savings accounts. But to goods and services. Crypto and NFTs. Startups. And other capital allocators.

Adjacently, the COVID days saw the (re)emergence of new markets. Ecommerce. Fintech. Remote work. Future of work. Web3 and the metaverse. Just to name a few.

In 2021, VC fundraising activity surpassed $100B in funds raised for the first time. $128.3 billion across 730 funds, to be exact. Carta also saw a massive jump in the number of Fund I’s created last year. More than ever before, there was an abundance in opportunities to invest in venture funds.

Carta saw more first funds than ever in 2021: Count of first funds and capital committed, by year of first portfolio investment 2016-21
Source: Carta

Anecdotally, in my work at On Deck Angels and at DECODE, I’ve seen a rise in the number of opportunities to invest into funds as well. Via various other platforms as well:

  • Revere โ€” where you can discover and evaluate venture fund managers through a unique rating framework. They’ve also recently launched explorevc.com for those curious about who’s in their pipeline;
  • Allocate โ€” an end-to-end platform that covers everything from discovery to capital calls and keeping track of your portfolio;
  • Communities like On Deck Angels;
  • Even Republic and Titan.

Arlan Hamilton famously raised $5M of her fund via Republic, an equity crowdfunding platform. More recently, Cathie Wood announced the opportunity for non-accredited investors to invest in the ARK Venture Fund through Titan.

There was and still is a wealth of noise, but a poverty of “signal” โ€” a word that may have lost its true meaning in these past few years. When signal is everywhere, it is nowhere. So more than ever before, more than opportunities, what the world needs more of are frameworks. Frameworks on how to differentiate for yourself signal from noise.

There is a wealth of content and discourse in the broader world for investors, which include advice on personal finance, investing in stocks, option trading, and of course, quite a bit, in the world of startup investing. But surprisingly little in the realm of investing in venture funds. The only ones I could find were OpenLP and SuperLP, which if you know me I had to ask both of their authors for their latest insights here as well.

As we were wrapping up our conversation on a sweltering late summer day, Martin Tobias, founding partner at Incisive Ventures, told me:

“Somebody should write a book like Jason Calacanisโ€™ Angels, but for LPs.”

And he’s completely right. While that is a larger endeavor altogether, hopefully, this blogpost serves as a preamble for a greater conversation.

Who is the emerging LP?

An LP, or a limited partner, in the context of this essay, is someone who invests indirectly, rather than directly into startups. While investors in syndicates and SPVs are also counted as LPs, for the purpose of this piece, I’ll focus on people who invest in funds.

If you’re an emerging LP, you’re most likely writing checks into Fund I’s. Maybe Fund II’s, if you’re lucky, can write larger checks ($250-500K+), you have something a GP wants, or some permutation of the above.

Effectively, this blogpost is dedicated to the investor looking to invest in fund managers who have yet to prove their institutional track record. And just like investing into a pre-seed founder, searching for product-market fit, the checks you are writing are… belief capital.

If it’s belief capital, assuming the GP has the underlying mechanics down (portfolio construction, fund strategy, etc.), it’s all about people. And if it’s all about people (I’m overgeneralizing), how you win as an LP is determined by your ability to differentiate the top decile from the top quartile. Part of that requires some level of intuition. But I am ill-equipped to speak on LP intuition, as opposed to VC intuition. So, I had to ask folks with more miles on their odometer.

Asher Siddiqui shared it best in our conversation from the perspective of an emerging fund manager:

“Hereโ€™s the problem that I have. Imagine youโ€™re an emerging fund manager and you think youโ€™re hot shit. How long do you think it takes before you figure out if you are?

“The average deployment period is 2-3 years. You launch Fund I in Year 1 and launch Fund II between Year 2 and 3. You close the second fund around Year 4. By Year 7-8, you now have some DPI from Fund I, early DPI from Fund II, and are now writing your first checks from Fund III.

“The truth is no one knows if youโ€™re a great fund manager until youโ€™re eight to ten years in. That means if youโ€™re meeting a great manager, youโ€™re meeting them when theyโ€™re already at Fund III, or when theyโ€™re raising Fund IV.”

Similarly, the truth is as an emerging LP, you probably don’t have the opportunity to invest in “hot shit.” Why?

  • Top-tier funds are oversubscribed, and have a waitlist to even get the chance to invest.
  • And if you could, due to the size of their funds, you need to be able to write checks on the magnitude of 7-figures and up.

Rather the buffet you have before you is the opportunity to support the best before they’re the best. So instead of looking for lagging indicators, like TVPI, DPI, and IRR, the conversations that sparked this blogpost is intended to look for leading, predictive indicators. But as you might guess, there is no one right answer in foresight. But I do hope the below serve as tools in your toolkit as you grow your arsenal of frameworks for investing in GPs.

As a quick note, wanted to share some quick definitions I wish I knew at one point in my life:

  • TVPI: Total-value-to-paid-in capital, aka paper returns
  • DPI: Distributions-to-paid-in capital, aka the actual money you get back, or Chris Douvos calls it: “the moolah in the coolah”
  • IRR: Internal rate of return, aka how fast your money appreciates per year
    • Net IRR: your IRR after fees, carry, expenses are accounted for, and what LPs care about more than gross IRR
  • GP: General partner of a VC firm, aka the head honcho at a firm

Finding the best LPs

The world of fund investing is, for lack of better words, opaque. There’s no public Rolodex of limited partners. If you stick around the venture world long enough, there are familiar names that regularly pop up in fund pitch decks or during VC happy hour. And outside of the big institutions who write $5M+ checks that you might find on ad hoc expeditions into the world of the internet, the two best places I’ve found so far for information on LPs is Sapphire Partners’ OpenLP.com. And scouring AngelList’s syndicates and PCN (Private Capital Network) for their LP networks, neither of which are public either.

At the same time, most individual LPs don’t go “shopping” for deals. They invest opportunistically into people they know and trust or alongside people they trust. In a way, this blogpost is also designed to help the individual LPs below shop for deals. By sharing the fact they LP publicly, my sell to them was that maybe this blogpost will the earliest semblances of fund deal flow to them.

Just as a fund manager brings smaller LPs on for very specific reasons, an LP should have a similar rationale to why they are investing in a GP. It’s a two-way street.

Methodology and a table of contents

I’m going to preface by saying: This isn’t an academic research paper. So as such, I may not have followed all the best practices in doing academic research. Nevertheless, I promise you won’t be disappointed. The below found its genesis scratching a personal itch that grew into:

  1. How can I best support emerging GPs?
  2. A first step into demystifying the black box of LP investing
  3. Help individual LPs build thought leadership and discoverability, aka deal flow
  4. And, building an investing playbook for pre-product-market fit funds

To each individual, I asked just four questions:

  1. Apart from TVPI and IRR, what are leading indicators that differentiate the great GPs from the good GPs? In other words, the top decile from the top quartile?
    • In fairness, I iterated on the wording of this question the most because a few LPs I asked early on only had one answer: track record. And track record โ€” in other words, TVPI and IRR, especially DPI, are lagging indicators.
  2. Any red flags about emerging GPs that new LPs should be aware of?
  3. What common pieces of advice should emerging LPs ignore, if any?
    • This was one that either completely hit or completely missed. The latter due to the fact, that there isn’t much advice, period, that is shared between LPs who don’t already know each other. One of the main reasons I believe this blogpost should exist.
  4. Anything else you think first-time LPs should be aware of?

Some shared over text. Others over email. And a handful of others across calls and coffee.

As such, I’ve segmented this blogpost into five main sections:

One last thing…

A big thank you to Brent Goldman, Rebekah Bastian, Eric Bahn, Beezer Clarkson, Vijen Patel, Chris Douvos, Gautam Shewakramani, Lo Toney, Shiva Singh Sangwan, Sriram Krishnan, Martin Tobias, @Cashflow_Cowboy, Sam Huleatt, Itay Rotem, Nichole Wischoff, Aman Verjee, Paul Griffiths, Cindy Bi, Samir Kaji, Eric Woo, Asher Siddiqui, and everyone else for your insights, edits, and introductions.

Let’s dive in!

To Be or Not To Be an LP

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In the words of my friend and colleague Gautam, “A big part of direct early-stage investing is more than just financial return. The same holds true as an LP, especially as an emerging LP. Be very clear about why youโ€™re an LP. An investor who invested in the same fund as I did called his LP commitment the most expensive newsletter subscription heโ€™s ever been a part of.”

Why you should be an LP

“The most important question to answer is why do you want to be an LP? To me, there are three reasons:

  1. You want to build a career in this space – potentially a fund of funds, or manage someone’s family office.
  2. You’re not the best at picking individually good startup deals to invest in, and you want to be strategic. For example, if David has the best deal flow in web3*, and I don’t, I want to invest in David.
  3. This manager also has access to top deals – top deals that would otherwise be impossible for you to get into. If you invest in the fund, you also get access to the fund’s pro rata rights.”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise
*Author’s Note: I don’t have the best deal flow in web3, but am flattered to be the example.

“Iโ€™m also a startup investor myself. My goal is still to uncover the best investments out there. So, there are 5 reasons as to why I invest in funds:

  1. Investing in outliers: I invest in funds who have access to opportunities I may have missed myself. I donโ€™t want to miss the next Gong.
  2. Knowledge and network expansion: I want to expand my knowledge and network of what and who is out there. To become a better fund manager and uncover whatโ€™s happening out there in the market, I read other GPโ€™s investor updates. I learn from what they learn.
  3. Expanding my deal flow: I invest in othersโ€™ funds to get to invest in the companies theyโ€™ve invested in, and earning my right to, by being as valuable as an LP as possible.
  4. Learning: Iโ€™m able to learn about areas that Iโ€™m very interested in. For example, Iโ€™ve spend the past year trying to learn more about web3, so I invested in web3 funds. I read the GPsโ€™ investor updates and have effectively built a braintrust of GPs who are experts in web3.
  5. Regional coverage: I LP into funds in emerging markets, namely, India, Southeast Asia, and Europe. I want to back someone whoโ€™s just starting with a Fund I, in a region I donโ€™t have coverage on.”

โ€” Sriram Krishnan, Kearny Jackson

Why you should NOT be an LP

“Venture isn’t a winning strategy for retail investors. Many investors cite that new funds outperform the S&P 500 or Russell 2000, but the truth is most venture funds have a low probability of beating the NASDAQ. Those that say otherwise are ignorant. Venture, as an asset class, is worse than the best public market alternative ($QQQ) unless you are getting the best outcomes. You need to be in the quartile, by looking for the top decile. Only then can you beat the public markets.

“If you don’t fully understand what that game is – one you’re not going to get your capital back for 10-12 years, then stick to public markets and small checks angel investing to satisfy startup investing curiosity. People are often insular to what they see and believe, especially on Twitter. Everyone is talking their own book. Do your homework.”

โ€” @Cashflow_Cowboy

“Adjust expectations. People think that they’re going to always make 10x on their money, but I’m reminded of a story from early in my career.

“In the aftermath of the dotcom bubble, a time during which a looooottt of people made a lot of money, a big endowment that had one of the top venture portfolios looked at their relationships in their totality and found that only three of their managers exceeded a TVPI of greater than 2.5x for the whole of their relationship (across all the funds). And if you look at VC as a whole, returns have only very rarely met the lofty expectations that most people have. We’re looking back at an extraordinary time, but I think that when people look back, especially at a landscape littered with dilettante funds, that we’ll say that as the TVPI matured into DPI (the ‘moolah in da coolah’) times were pretty good, maybe even great, but not all the trees grew to the sky like some thought they would.”

โ€” Chris Douvos, Ahoy Capital

“My biggest piece of advice for this audience is to actually not invest in venture.  Most of the entrepreneurial network over-indexes investments to venture capital or start-ups.  But our career is probably already over-indexed to this high risk asset class.  I encourage entrepreneurs who start to invest to look at real estate, stocks, private equity, or private debt/BDCs. You can actually buy private debt on the public markets, called BDCs โ€“ business development corporations โ€“ that are loans out of companies and pay 10-15% yield.  Or mid-market private equity generates ~20% IRRโ€™s with far higher confidence than a venture fund.   Asset allocation across these different profiles are key.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, 81 Collection

What Makes a Phenomenal GP (As Opposed to just a Good One)

avocado, perfect, imperfect, seed

For the purpose of this section, I’m going to depart from the usual metrics – like a 3x net multiple, or a 25%+ IRR for funds longer than 5 years. Why? Since (a) if those metrics exist, these funds are no longer non-obvious, and the likelihood of you having access to these funds as an emerging LP is slim (and fund performance speaks for itself), or (b) if they don’t exist, you’re going to rely on qualitative measures โ€” just as you would investing in most early-stage startups pre-PMF.

Consistent, clear, and preemptive communication

“Most managers are not that great when it comes to transparency around fund operations. Things like: What are your latest investments? What’s the thesis behind some of those investments? How are they performing over time?

“Some of these things get answered, if I’m lucky, on a quarterly basis, but often on an annual basis or less. So if you find a team that’s consistent about sharing progress on a monthly or at the very least on a quarterly basis and are really responsive to answering your emails and any phone calls, that’s a good sign behind a team that’s working very hard to serve the interest of its LPs and treating the job like a fiduciary.

“I’ll put a little bit of side note here. This kind of behavior is great with founders, too. When founders are really great about communications, it correlates very well to their performance over time.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“The six funds that I’ve invested in so far (listed here if that’s helpful) have all been communicative, stayed true to their thesis, and given me opportunities to learn and help to the extent that I had hoped for.”

โ€” Rebekah Bastian, OwnTrail

“Sometimes things donโ€™t perfectly line up โ€” a GP might discover new opportunities or areas of interest as they start investing in a fund. Or increased competition. If strategy changes have occurred, ideally the GP would have been flagging this to their LPs over the course of the two years but for a new prospective LP being able to speak to the changes is important.”

โ€” Beezer Clarkson, Sapphire Partners

The best have a unique perspective

“As an LP who also invests directly into startups, we seek GPs who have something unique – some kind of insight. It’s not always about having the highest net return. These days, there’s not enough GPs who have a unique angle on the market. It could be how they diligence deals, how they set their investment strategy, or what top investments look like.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, $30B AUM Fund

“The funds we have known that are top decile have a point of view, this can be expressed as being thesis driven, but doesnโ€™t have to be. It does though provide a reason for why they invest in what they do and why an entrepreneur picks them.

“They have also, in our experience, have had multiple fund returners within one fund. Not always, if an exit is large enough with respect to the size of the fund, it is possible to have a top decile fund with just one fund returner. The power law is alive and well in the top decile funds weโ€™ve seen. This means swinging for the fences with respect to a fundโ€™s investments as well as supporting this with a portfolio allocation and management strategy that enables a significant exit to provide for strong returns.”

โ€” Beezer Clarkson, Sapphire Partners

“Every investor claims to have a value. There are very few cases where investors pitch otherwise. Sector specific funds may have a real value add for very early stage startups.

Uniqueness is not about investing into a vertical or type of technology, but about their ability to measure the size of an idea. Great managers know how to identify big ideas that others arenโ€™t seeing. Even more true if you run a big fund; you must be investing in even bigger outcomes.”

โ€” Itay Rotem, EdRITECH

Is this strategy repeatable?

“Differentiating between ‘top decile’ and ‘top quartile’ is really just going to be luck, for the most part. If you’re simply measuring and assessing ‘good GPs’ from the great ones, by track record, here would be my top few:

  • “What % of the portfolio comes from the top 1, 2 or 3? If you can deliver a top-quartile return WITHOUT your one winner / ‘lucky bet’, that’s really good.
  • What % of companies successfully got funded from investment to the next round?
    • Seed —> Series A should be >35%
    • Series A —> Series B should be >50%
    • Series B —> Series C should be >50%
    • Series C —> Series D+ should be >60%”

โ€” Aman Verjee, Practical VC

“For GPs with young track records, we look at what the contributing companies are. Who are the fund returners? And can they replicate the same strategy? When diligencing GPs, we also talk to the founders they invest in. Essentially, whether there is founder/GP fit.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, $30B AUM Fund

“I look for someone who’s very consistent. They have the integrity to stick to their word. They’re not deal-chasing, deploying all their capital in less than two years, and trying to raise their next fund too quickly. Typically, you’re signing up for multiple funds. If the deployment window is very small, the GP makes frequent capital calls, which means you’re committing more capital in less time.”

โ€” Sam Huleatt, On Deck

“TVPI and IRR tend to be lagging indicators, not leading ones (for many reasons โ€” including irrelevance of these metrics earlier than 5 years, changing motivations, engagement, and so on for investors, and shift in fund size/strategy, noting the Maples Dictum that your fund size IS your strategy).

“For me, the thing that tilts the odds in favor of a manager having the potential to be ‘great’ is that they are leveraging some sort of ecosystem. That can be an ecosystem built on years of success (Sequoia) or ‘prepared mind’ like Accel back in the day, or deep entrenchment in a mafia (Founders Fund). Additionally, some people build fertile ecosystems like First Round or True by investing time and attention in targeted and intentional ways. I try to look for people that are entrenched in some kind of robust ecosystem and match the moment when their upward-sloping line of experience as an investor intersects the (generally) downward sloping line of hunger. For more specifics on my thought process, see the most recent (five years old LOL) post on Super LP.”

โ€” Chris Douvos, Ahoy Capital

“Over the long run of course, it’s DPI, but it’s about consistency of returns, which typically is a byproduct of them understanding where their definable edges (finding product/market fit), and ruthlessly exploiting those edges through building repeatable processes on sourcing, decision making, team building, etc.”

โ€” Samir Kaji, Allocate

“This portfolio canโ€™t be a one-hit wonder. Is there enough gold in the middle after you take the top two and the bottom two investments out?

“Thereโ€™s a Rome in everyoneโ€™s future. You go up and then you go down. There are many funds that generated outsized alpha in the last decade but are not what they used to be.

“If you’re leveraging a network, is that alumni network today the same as it was yesterday. Did most of the smart, driven people leave? Are you borrowing or are you using that network? Were you there at the right vintage?

“Also, bet on people who do what they said they would do. Where did the returns come from? If the top returns came from their 20% discretionary funds, and not their 80% core fund, is that something worth betting on again as an LP? I would rather back a 3x return from an on-thesis fund than someone who gave me a 6x who came from off-thesis. The latter is because it came from sheer dumb luck. The question is, what do they do with that dumb luck? Do they pivot and learn, or continue to go rogue / play the roulette?

“Think about why LPs give money to GPs. Anyone can go into Vegas and play the roulette. The best GPs can do something I cannot do and they do it repeatedly.”

โ€” Asher Siddiqui, Sukna Ventures

Access > proprietary deal flow

“We have felt for a number of years now (including pre-COVID) that the concept of โ€˜proprietary deal flowโ€™ is not really a thing. Proprietary access however is something we think is true, powerful and not simple to achieve (hence why powerful ).”

โ€” Beezer Clarkson, Sapphire Partners

“I look for emerging managers who have a highly differentiated platform offering or differentiated deal flow. In addition, for someone who has won before, like winning great deals, theyโ€™re likely to win again.”

โ€” Sriram Krishnan, Kearny Jackson

“For an emerging GP, itโ€™s all about access. Do I have the confidence that the best founders will seek out this GP?

How I evaluate access for a solo GP is different from how I evaluated a platform. For platforms, their external brand plays a big role. What are other founders saying about them? I talk to founders theyโ€™ve backed because ultimately, founders are their customers.

For solo GPs, I evaluate the GP on their personal brand, and his or her own insight on how they are thinking about the fund as a product. Here, I think of it as more of a bet on the founder of the firm, and not a fund bet.”

โ€” Gautam Shewakramani, Inuka Capital

“GPs also need to be able to quantify that unique access. Iโ€™m an LP in a fund that puts on a regular conference and runs a community of 30,000 [redacted job title]. Their thesis was that theyโ€™re going to fund the best ideas that come out of their [redacted] community.

“The same is true for Packy McCormick. His thesis is: ‘I help startups tell their stories. I have all these readers who are VCs and founders, and theyโ€™re going to invite me into their deal.’ So, the quantitative thing is how big is his mailing list and how fast is it growing.

Itโ€™s the ability to quantify things that you as the GP think are proprietary about your particular access to this market segment. Itโ€™s more than just how many LinkedIn friends you have or how many Twitter followers you have; itโ€™s specific to your thesis.

“For my thesis, I get referred deals because Iโ€™m an LP in 17 funds. I invest in deals that are too early for these other funds, and I can get them follow-on financing because I know directly the LPs in the follow-on funds. And the fact that Iโ€™m an LP in 17 funds gives credibility to that thesis.

“One of my theses is that Iโ€™m a really good pre-seed investor because my companies get a higher percentage of follow-on financing than your average VC. Mine is 72%. Techstars is 30%. Iโ€™m two and a half times better than Techstars at getting follow-on financing.”

โ€” Martin Tobias, Incisive Ventures

“Iโ€™m an LP in 17 venture capital funds, and itโ€™s very clear what separates the best from the good.  Deal flow.

“I also think we are entering a new era where youโ€™ll see specialized, smaller funds that will generate great performance because of domain expertise and proximity to the nucleus of innovation.  I get really excited about this group, and think some of these <$50M funds could generate 5x+ returns.

“For this group, I look for two things:

  1. The team climbing the hill: Why is this team special in being able to attract great deal flow?  Examples could be knowledge expertise, distribution, prior experience, geographic coverage, but a compelling edge is critical.
  2. The hill that team is climbing: Ultimately, macro matters a lot.  We like to attribute performance to skill, but timing, sector, and luck play a large part of success.  The worst manager in crypto in 2015 probably did pretty well.  The worst fintech manager in 2010 probably crushed it.  I think about what will be the area in 2030 that everyone wishes they had exposure to today.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, 81 Collection

They don’t have to ask “How can I help?”

“Most investors are not helpful. I started a company, raised some VC money, then some from angels. And I realized that our most helpful investors were angels. I came to understand that there are two kinds of helpful investors:

  1. Reactively helpful
  2. Proactively helpful

“For the former, you would have a problem, reach out to your investor, and they would really help you. For the latter, it’s Alex. Alex was one of our first investors. He would often come into our office, and without being prompted, proceed to write code against our APIs. And I thought, if I were to be a VC one day, I wanted to be just like him โ€” very hands on. I knew he would be a real value-add investor.”

โ€” Brent Goldman, Lancelot Ventures
*Alex is a fictitious name of a real person.

“It boils down to three questions that are all interrelated:

  1. Does this fund manager have a brand?
  2. Does he/she have access? Do founders need them more than the manager needs the founders?
  3. And does he/she have something unique to provide to founders?”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

“At the pre-seed level, where I invest, a great fund manager is someone who gets a startup to a ‘real’ round of funding. I think itโ€™s like fording a river: a good fund attracts founders to their boat, then ferries them across to the other side. For this service, they are rewarded with allocation in a round thatโ€™s underpriced once they reach the shore.

“Great funds are ones that have a sustained, repeatable process for attracting founders and a reliable methodology to get them across. This can look like focusing on a geography, focusing on a sector, focusing on an underserved founder market, acting as a scout for a larger fund who likes your deals, or some combination of the above.

“The returns from pre-seed are really about getting early and cheaply enough to have made the risk worth it.”

โ€” Paul Griffiths, 15 & Change

Are they hungry?

“I work with some good fund managers, but why are they not great? Why are they only in the top quartile, and not the top decile? They have all the ingredients of being great. They have amazing pedigree, and they went to the right high school, the right college, and worked at all the top startups in their vintage. Butโ€ฆ theyโ€™re not hungry. They havenโ€™t had enough adversity in their life.

I have seen prospective LPs only look at a GPโ€™s career history, and not their life history. You need that extra data point, that context. To take a holistic view of the unique set of experiences of a human being, and not just the professional. You look at their thesis, and their history; you look at it from birth to today; you look at their whole life and career history, and look at their thesis. If the thesis doesnโ€™t make complete and perfect sense, then I donโ€™t think this is a ‘great‘ fund manager. If it fits like a glove, then yes, they could be.

“I donโ€™t believe in luck. I believe you create your own luck. How do you create your own luck? You create chaos, which creates opportunities โ€” you then leverage your past experience and your drive to capitalize on that opportunityโ€ฆ.โ€

โ€” Asher Siddiqui, Sukna Ventures

The devil is in the details of their portfolio construction model

“They need to have thought about deployment (schedules) and fund size. One of the quotes we both like is ‘Your fund size is your strategy.’ A fund of $10 million should have a very different strategy than a $50 million or $100 million fund.”

โ€” Sam Huleatt, On Deck

“To us, the difference between good and very good is portfolio management. How do they think about reserves to follow on? Do they look to increase allocation into the winners?

“Thereโ€™s a big difference between managing a $5 million fund and a $20-30 million one and $500 million one. How you look at portfolio management and allocation is different. Everyone tells you they can give you a 5x return, but I only need 3x DPI! Even the best firms out there struggle to return 3x on certain funds.

“Your size is your strategy. We take into account the geography you invest into. In Israel, we donโ€™t have decacorns. And because the exits are lower, the fund size should also be lower.”

โ€” Itay Rotem, EdRITECH

Mixed references are not as bad as you think

“Iโ€™ve backed a lot of funds across the private markets, in both private equity and venture capital, and great investors may have divisive personalities. You want to back special talents, and they may rub people the wrong way. That said, there is a difference between a prickly personality and a bad actor not treating founders right, and not being ethical in their dealings.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, Private Wealth Management Firm

Does the GP have investor-market fit?

“Success builds upon success in venture.  Iโ€™m never going to attract the best talent in the neobank or fintech space. They donโ€™t know who I am and I donโ€™t have true domain expertise.  But if youโ€™re doing something in retail or in hardware, I can really help and you likely know what Tide Cleaners is.  Folks in retail find a way to get in front of me, and likewise, I can meaningfully help these companies.  Product market fit applies to VCโ€™s, too.  And we donโ€™t talk about this enough, but also LPโ€™s.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, 81 Collection

The best have long time horizons

“Luck aside, I index greatly on energy, fire, thoughtfulness, and passion. Some founders or operators raise a fund after an exit because they don’t know what to do next and have money in the bank. LPs need to discern as best as possible how committed these people are to the job of investing. How much does the GP resonate with the founders they’re backing?

“GPs who are only building, but don’t understand roughly what they’re building towards tend not to resonate with me. GPs who have founder friendliness talking points, but few examples of hard conversations with founders don’t resonate with me. I get concerned when GPs don’t appear to have an understanding of what kind of bet they’re actually making. The great GPs have long-run perspectives and are willing to adapt. Startups have to execute miracles to achieve great financial outcomes. I want to see GPs have a rough mathematical understanding of their bets based on their assumptions and stories. What’s a reasonable amount of capital to startups to their milestones, knowing your home runs are going to go much further than your initial projections? What does SaaS multiples going down from 10-15x to around 8x mean? Was the GP banking on elevated multiples persisting for the math to work?”

โ€” @Cashflow_Cowboy

“I want to invest in people who are going to build multiple funds, so the long-term commitment to the space is critical.

“Every fund thinks theyโ€™re solving a unique problem โ€“ most are not.  A happy outcome is backing a GP that you believe in, so Iโ€™d prioritize character over potential returns.  At the end of the day, youโ€™re getting into a decade-long relationship, so youโ€™d better like the GP as a person, not just the asset class.”

โ€” Paul Griffiths, 15 & Change

Luck is a skill

“The thing is everyone’s smart, and between the top decile and quartile, luck is a big differentiator.”

โ€” @Cashflow_Cowboy

“The difference between top quartile and top decile is one of luck.  I believe that it is impossible to predict ex ante.”

โ€” Chris Douvos, Ahoy Capital

“Outlier performance is a combination of luck and skill (luck is needed for massive outlier funds), but the best fund managers require less luck to consistently outperform because they have well constructed operating frameworks.”

โ€” Samir Kaji, Allocate

“In my early days in venture, I spoke with several investors on the Midas list. And every single one of them attributed their success to luck and timing. They still view themselves as learning and actively track their anti portfolio to see what they missed. Theyโ€™re humble, and still suffer from imposter syndrome. When I ask them these two questions:

  1. Which were the startups that you thought were going to be winners?
  2. What startups put you on the Midas list?

“There will be some overlap, but more often than not, itโ€™ll be a different set of names. Investing in GPs is a bit like startup investing. Itโ€™s a bit of a roulette wheel. What youโ€™re doing is improving the odds. Any LP or GP who says otherwise is full of shit.”

โ€” Asher Siddiqui, Sukna Ventures

The best change the status quo

“I believe great GPs aren’t just impacting the success of their portfolio companies and their LPs, but are changing entire systems that are historically pretty broken in the VC ecosystem. The vast majority of LPs, VCs and funded founders have tended to be pretty homogenous in terms of the identities they hold and approaches they take to building & funding companies. By breaking through those biases and pattern matching, not only will a new kind of emerging fund manager see better returns, but they’ll also dismantle a lot of the systemic inequities that have prevailed. TL;DR: Good managers see healthy returns, great managers see those returns and leave things better than they found them. (I wrote a bit about some of those inequitable systems here if you’d like to link to it)”

โ€” Rebekah Bastian, OwnTrail

GP Red Flags

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Logo and trend shopping

“There is a concept of just logo shopping. A lot of decks are loaded up with a bunch of logos of great companies that the GPs have invested in the past.

There are people who say they’re seed investors were able to get a slice of allocation of some hot company at the Series C or Series D for a $5,000 or $10,000 check. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that as an investor. But the way that it’s framed often looks like that they were seed investors in these hot companies as well.

“So, there’s some of that window dressing. I think that is a red flag. It just is on the edges of honesty that I’ve never really liked.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“When GPs claim to invest in a deal, one red flag is when they were only an angel in a syndicate, and the founders don’t even know the investor by name. We also look at deal attribution for GPs from bigger funds. How involved were they in winning deals at their last fund? So, we do backchannel checks.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, $30B AUM Fund

“Iโ€™m wary of trend followers. People who follow trends without having anything unique to add to founders building in the space.”

โ€” Martin Tobias, Incisive Ventures

Not playing the long game

Another [red flag] is when GPs change the terms when fundraising. As a GP gets more interest, we’ve seen some GPs change the terms – from 2% fees to 2.5 or 3%. It raises some concerns that they are opportunists which might be viewed as a sign that they weren’t committed to building a long, durable fund.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, $30B AUM Fund

“There is never a full alignment between LPs and GP. There are many potential conflicts when it comes to VC management. You don’t want to invest in people who will not hesitate to screw you. Donโ€™t invest in people you donโ€™t trust. Thereโ€™s a thin line between greediness and discipline. We donโ€™t invest in investors who are too opportunistic. Discipline and strategy consistency (with an amount of flexibility) is important.

โ€” Itay Rotem, EdRITECH

“Too many GPs today are obviously dilettantes. The average fund lasts twice as long as the average American marriage, so it’s a long-term commitment to your partners. I get the sense that a lot of new GPs are becoming VCs in the same way a lot of college kids end up going to law school: it just seemed like the next obvious thing to do/the path of least resistance.”

โ€” Chris Douvos, Ahoy Capital

“This is personal for each LP. I believe the GPโ€™s job is to maximize returns for their LPs. So, thereโ€™s a tradeoff between GPs playing the long game and having a fiduciary responsibility to return money in the short run. So, a red flag for me is when the GPs donโ€™t play the long game.

“Thereโ€™s this weird nobility in venture, especially in the pre-seed. Sajith Pai wrote a great piece on this. Your first investor is almost like a priest. As the first check into a company, you should be a good priest. Is this person someone who will be a strong supporter of the founder, which could come at odds with short-term financial return? I wonโ€™t get immediate distributions. But at the same time, over a fund life, this could generate better financial returns across a portfolio of founders or in the form of access to better deals driven by reputation or founder friendliness.”

โ€” Gautam Shewakramani, Inuka Capital

“People say theyโ€™re going to deploy over the next 2.5 years. But guess what everyone did in 2021. They deployed their entire fund. So LPs are asking, ‘What are you doing? We had all of this scheduled out, but you deployed so quickly, and so now weโ€™re out of money. We canโ€™t do your re-ups for next year, or we canโ€™t back new managers right now.’ Itโ€™s been a real issue that has kept so much money on the sidelines.

Saying youโ€™re going to do something, then not doing it is a huge red flag. Do what you say youโ€™re going to do. This is a relationship game. If youโ€™re breaking trust, youโ€™re playing the short game instead of the long game.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, 81 Collection

Small funds, big reserves

“Iโ€™m wary of small funds with big reserves. For example, a $50 million fund with 50% reserves. What it means is youโ€™re getting less shots on goals. For Fund Iโ€™s, itโ€™s all about shots on goals.”

โ€” Martin Tobias, Incisive Ventures

They lack honesty and self-awareness

“A big one is a lack of openness of what didn’t go right. Some GPs exhibit a lot of arrogance. They claim they’re great at everything. That’s not possible, and definitely not true. Everyone has flaws, but the inability to share them is a red flag for me.

“Good GPs are also very self aware of what they are and what they aren’t. These GPs manage their time well. They find partners to build a team that has complementary skill sets to their own. When I ask: Why are you not winning deals?, they have a great answer. If they can’t answer that, they probably have work to do understanding their own pitch. Moreover, the best GPs are consistent with their stories while open and willing to evolve.”

โ€” @Cashflow_Cowboy

“For funds I declined to invest in, it came down to the person. They often take credit than share credit. I doubted their skills and ability to follow through. A lot of projects were often started but never finished.

โ€” Brent Goldman, Lancelot Ventures

“Managers that donโ€™t appreciate that this is a journey, not a sprint. Itโ€™s the same as assessing a startup founder. We look for behavioral cues: approachability, willingness to accept feedback, and ability to go through pivots.

“At Revere, we share our ratings for GPs with our GPs. Say I give someone a four out of five on team, and they come back and insist on five out of five across the board. How receptive the GP is to constructive feedback (and address it) is a very telling indicator.

โ€” Eric Woo, Revere VC

“Usually GPs are really good at (typically) 2 or at most 3 of the following 6 things, in order to be top-decile:

  1. Portfolio construction & management
  2. Access to deals / networking
  3. Ability to win deals
  4. Company selection / financial analysis / assessing PMF and future value accretion
  5. Active management to “add value” to those companies
  6. Exits

“… And maybe fundraising / cost of capital.

“But if they aren’t aware of what they’re good at, that’s troubling. Once they know what they do to excel (and what they won’t) they usually become very good at focusing on what matters.

“Here are some examples:

Potential GP: ‘I am really good at all 6 GP characteristics above!’
Me: ‘Don’t call me, I’ll call you.’

Potential GP: ‘I am really good being a board member, I’m the best. I can make any shit company successful once I’m involved. I did this for three eCommerce companies in the 1980s, and I really think I can ‘turn around’ and exit eCommerce, adtech, fintech, digital health, AI / ML, beauty and fashion, etc. They’re all the same.’
Me: ‘Ummm…’

Potential GP: ‘I am great at deal sourcing from XXX network, and I specialize in AI. But vertical-wise, I see a lot of stuff, so I do a lot of stuff.’
Me: ‘Cool.’

“I also like to see more focused funds. A lack of ability to zero in on a particular thesis (e.g. B2B SaaS with certain characteristics) is at least a yellow flag, though if the GP’s core competencies support a generalized approach that’s fine.”

โ€” Aman Verjee, Practical VC

The GPs are too founder-friendly

“Emerging GPs tend to be too founder-friendly. A great VC is like a personal trainer, not a cheerleader.”

โ€” Chris Douvos, Ahoy Capital

There’s no follow-on strategy

“Another red flag is not having a follow-on strategy. If youโ€™re a small fund, you are funding companies that will never get to profitability with the money you gave them. So they all have to raise additional financing. If you donโ€™t have reserves in your fund, you need to prove that you know other funds or have an SPV or angel network that can fund your companies. If you donโ€™t have an answer for how youโ€™re going to be able to fund the companies in the next round or at least introduce them, thatโ€™s a flag.”

โ€” Martin Tobias, Incisive Ventures

The follow-on SPVs take management fees

“Theyโ€™re charging excessive fees on SPVs to LPs. Many LPs who invest in small emerging managers are in part doing so because they want the co-investment opportunities. And those co-investment opportunities should be at fairly favorable terms. The most favorable terms Iโ€™ve seen are zero and ten. Iโ€™m not saying everyone has to do it at that, but I have seen VCs try to do it at three and thirty โ€“ at premium terms relative to the fund. I think itโ€™s a flag on the emerging manager if he/she is proposing to charge management fees on SPVs at all.”

โ€” Martin Tobias, Incisive Ventures

They lack communication skills

“GPs sometimes donโ€™t follow up with what the LP asked for. The follow up is very generic. For example, if the LP wants to co invest in XYZ sector, can you send names in the portfolio that might be interesting to them?”

โ€” Anonymous LP, $30B AUM Fund

“Bad communicators who only answer with curt and short responses is a red flag.”

โ€” @Cashflow_Cowboy

They don’t know the numbers or the rules of the game

“Plenty, but to extract one, we’ve found that managers that don’t know the numbers (i.e. what enterprise value within your portfolio will you need to get to a 3x+) is a huge red flag and leads to poor portfolio construction and decision-making. Saying you are going to return a 5X+ easily is not respecting how difficult it is, and probably comes with a lack of understanding of basic fund math.”

โ€” Samir Kaji, Allocate

“Managers that donโ€™t understand basic portfolio construction and fund modeling. You would be amazed how many donโ€™t even have a spreadsheet that tracks current investments.”

โ€” Eric Woo, Revere VC

“Emerging GPs tend to overestimate the value of prior experience and underestimate the value of investing skills like portfolio construction and discipline (not just on things like price, but also on things like security selection โ€” for instance, not understanding the problems with SAFEs).”

โ€” Chris Douvos, Ahoy Capital

“If they are carrying companies at valuations that seem out of whack, or indefensible (or if they can’t really articulate their valuation policy) that’s no bueno. That is ALWAYS a signal that the GP is not going to be aligned with me… I’ve known some very strong investors who have played this game and it’s a real problem for me personally.”

โ€” Aman Verjee, Practical VC

They play the AUM and management fee game

“I think fund size is a real issue. The law of funds is really interesting. If you get a million-dollar allocation early on into a unicorn and itโ€™s a smaller fund, you can return the fund multiple times over. If you do that with a $400 million fund, itโ€™s harder to make those numbers work.

“So as an investor, you can play one of three types of games:

  1. You can spit out rapid funds.
  2. You can raise massive funds.
  3. Or you can make massive carry.

“The amount of funds and management fees that have been raised recently are out of control. If you can think about taking 2% management fees on a $500 million fund โ€“ and obviously you got costs and expenses โ€“ youโ€™re bringing home an annual income of $10 million. And thatโ€™s just one fund, and you do another and another. So, are you trying to create value or play the AUM game? And that is a red flag for me. I like small, steady, disciplined managers who are deeply passionate about early-stage and a certain sector.  That typically means they wonโ€™t scale to a $1B fund.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, 81 Collection

No investing experience

“Just like the only way to get good at wine is to drink a lot of wine. The only way to get good at investing is to see a lot of deals. A red flag would be a GP with no investing experience.”

โ€” Lo Toney, Plexo Capital

Common Advice To Ignore

microphone, speaker, common advice

While far les prominent than investors advising founders on how they should run their business or startup investing advice at broad, there’s a small handful of commonly shared pieces of advice that new LPs often get. Certain pieces of advice might serve larger LPs who work with a different set of parameters than you do. The important part is understanding the why.

Having artificial timelines

“LPs also shouldn’t give artificial timelines. Most family offices and individuals don’t have deployment schedules. A big endowment, like Harvard, does.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, $30B AUM Fund

The same is true for LPs as it is for GPs: Chasing logos

Just because you spun out of a big firm doesn’t mean you’re going to do well as a new firm. These emerging managers are going to look good on paper, but they might not necessarily know what it’s like living in a chaotic environment. It’s not the same environment they grew up in when they were at a16z, or had another great name behind them. Different resources, different support, so different mentality. Connection with founders is incredibly important and you want to understand how that applies in a different environment.”

โ€” @Cashflow_Cowboy

“I don’t know if this is advice that is shared, but many LPs over-index things like logos, GP commits, and early fund performance (which means very little within the first 3 years).”

โ€” Samir Kaji, Allocate

“A big one is around geographic and pedigree bias. There is a trope that’s formed that if you’re a founder of GP that’s based in the San Francisco Bay Area โ€” maybe went to Stanford or Harvard or MIT, that will position you into the very best networks to be successful.

“I’m not saying that just because you possess those characteristics that you can’t be successful. In fact, there are plenty that are. But there are also are a lot of really talented people outside of those networks too.

“I think a lot about this Warren Buffett rule: ‘To make a lot of money, you have to be both contrarian and right.’ Look a bit more widely in your funnel and invest in managers who don’t look like yourself and come from non-traditional networks and backgrounds. They’re identifying founders who may be working on some pretty amazing stuff that’s being overlooked.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Diversification for the sake of diversification

“Many emerging LPs are told to look for differentiation, but some things are differentiated in how bad (or mediocre) they are. Hedge fund managers say they’re seeking alpha, but sometimes you find it and it has a negative sign in front of it. What really matters is sustainable competitive advantage. How do you demonstrate and articulate your SCA? What is your unfair advantage in an extremely noisy market (and it’s gotta be more than just: ‘we’re part of the SF cool kid crowd/look at our AngelList track record of $50k checks’).”

โ€” Chris Douvos, Ahoy Capital

Should you bet on emerging GPs?

“‘Stay away from Fund I/II.’ This is the wrong advice. Don’t underestimate new GPs. Being a new GP is like being a founder; it’s a long-term commitment. And two, stay away from GPs who don’t have resilience and are not hungry to win.”

โ€” Cindy Bi, CapitalX

Do ownership targets matter?

“Thereโ€™s a lot of surface level ‘buyer beware.’ Everyone talks about ownership targets. โ€˜Are you hitting your ownership targets?โ€™ For large funds, that 15-20% ownership matters. You want the proceeds of the outcome to meaningfully impact the fund. Ownership is less important for a first or second time fund, which are smaller funds where a single great outcome, even at low ownership, can return the fund.

โ€” Eric Woo, Revere VC

Using fund-of-funds to get into emerging funds

“I would encourage a lot of emerging LPs to not go into fund-of-funds. As an emerging manager, I want fund-of-funds to invest in my fund. But as an LP, you get double-feed. If youโ€™re going to invest into venture funds, invest directly in the manager yourself.

“What the fund-of-funds will tell you is that they can get you into funds you canโ€™t get into. Iโ€™m also starting to see fund-of-funds for emerging managers, which I think is a great thing. For incredibly large LPs, I think it makes sense. They get access to someone else whoโ€™s going to do all the diligence on emerging managers. But thatโ€™s not for an emerging LP whose check size is $250K to a million dollar LP commitment. Fund-of-funds are for people with a billion dollars who are already invested in Sequoia and are writing $5-10 million checks.

“Typically you would pay one and ten for fund-of-funds. Then that fund-of-funds pays two and twenty. So youโ€™re three and thirty behind as a fund-of-funds LP.

“For emerging LPs, itโ€™s a good exercise to invest directly in emerging managers because itโ€™ll help with your direct investment practices as well. If you invest in fund-of-funds, youโ€™re never going to have those co-investment opportunities because you never build a relationship with the manager.

โ€” Martin Tobias, Incisive Ventures

Additional Tactical Tips

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The below are tips that everyone were kind enough to share, but didn’t fit into the above categories. Nevertheless, I find them to be powerful in expanding how you think about being an LP.

You’re never too good to reach out.

“I will say about a third of my LP investments were into fund managers I never worked with before. I hear of these new GPs from talking with my network. If I like what they do, Iโ€™ll reach out via Twitter.”

โ€” Sriram Krishnan, Kearny Jackson

“For every fund I’ve been in, I reached out to them, not the other way around. Every time I invest in a fund that’s either because I know the GP personally, or I know someone who knows the GP.”

โ€” Brent Goldman, Lancelot Ventures

See if the GP has flexibility on the minimum check size

“One thing that can be helpful to know for first-time LPs: GPs often have some flexibility on their minimum check size. I’m a pretty small check (particularly since I’ve been living on a founder salary!), but I can bring other things to the table to help the GPs I invest in (e.g. I highlighted Janine Sickmeyer from Overlooked Ventures in my Forbes column, I’m an advisor to Zecca Lehn from Responsibly Ventures, I send them deal flow from my AuthenTech community of founders). I’ve had luck with reaching out and saying ‘I really believe in what you’re doing. Please let me know if you get enough large checks and have room for some smaller LP investments.’ They’ll usually need to get enough big investments first since there are SEC limits on how many LPs they can have, and then they can let in some smaller, value-add LPs.”

โ€” Rebekah Bastian, OwnTrail

There are multiple ways to do reference checks

“There’s a two-part reference call check that I love that I learned from Scott Cook, who is the founder of Intuit. You ask, ‘I want you to tell me about David. Rate him from 1 to 10. 10 being absolutely perfect, and 1 being horrific.’ And you can basically ignore everything that is said. Most people say 8 or 9. You know they have their answer prepared.

“But then the second question is, ‘What will get David to a 10?’ And that’s where you hear the truth. That’s where you can pay attention.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“Investing into a fund is much like investing in startups. Why does this person have an unfair advantage over everyone else? I talk to the founding GP. I read VC Guide – think Yelp reviews for investors by founders. And if I think the team has an unfair advantage, I invest.”

โ€” Brent Goldman, Lancelot Ventures

“Ask to talk to other current LPs โ€“ you can learn a lot about how you will be treated once the fund has your money.”

โ€” Paul Griffiths, 15 & Change

“Being an LP is a ground game. It requires talking to founders and co-investors, and you wonโ€™t get much from surface-level reference checking. 

“Thereโ€™s no specific number that I shoot for. I once heard an LP claim to have completed 80 reference checks for one commitment. To me, that seemed like they were doing diligence for the sake of doing diligence. You could have gotten to the same answer well before 80. I reached close to 20 checks in diligence on a fund once, but I often need far less than that. The more important thing is youโ€™re answering the questions you have that pop up in your diligence, that you only do whatever references that you need to get to a yes or no.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, Private Wealth Management Firm

“We are all operating in the business of emotions and trust.  Itโ€™s best to build trust by word of mouth or references.  Iโ€™ve never invested in a fund without talking to another manager or entrepreneur in the portfolio.  This is across the stack. Top $100B asset managers do 20 back references on $100M venture capitalists.  $100M venture capitalists do 20 back references on $10M start-ups.  And $10M start-ups do back references on employees.  Together, with the bond of trust, this system creates an impact on the world.

“In practice, for example, I donโ€™t have a lot of domain expertise in web 3, but I have plenty of friends who do. So before I invested in [name redacted], I called four people and they all told me this manager was one of the top five.

“This is the under-pinning of asset allocation, but unfortunately this also leads to systematic issues. In fact, I would say this referral network is part of the issue of neglected founders, industries, and geographies not being able to get funded.  Itโ€™s a huge issue in our country that 2% of women get all VC dollars. Thatโ€™s horrendous and that means that >50% of our population only gets 2% of funding.  That isnโ€™t right. We need more capital to flow to underrepresented or neglected founders or industries or managers.  These new managers may not have the network to build traction, but Iโ€™m loving all the new amazing, specialized emerging managers doing great work with new strategies popping up.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, 81 Collection

“Do reference calls. Talk to some founders theyโ€™ve invested in. Talk to startups in their anti-portfolio. And talk to some of the founders that didnโ€™t work out. For the latter, how did they manage that? What do the founders think of them? If you only talk to the winners in their portfolio, they look like cheerleaders who got lucky and got into some great companies.”

โ€” Asher Siddiqui, Sukna Ventures

Follow-on investors aren’t as big of a differentiator as you might think.

“Top-tier follow-on investors in the past 48 months are no longer a differentiator. Existing managers all talk about mark-ups. Most managers that aren’t incompetent have markups and brand name follow-on investors over the last three years.”

โ€” @Cashflow_Cowboy

Get granular with a fund’s follow-on investors

“A lot of LPs act like they care about which funds are making investments alongside emerging managers. But who those follow-on investors and co-investors are will mean different things to different people based on the following factors.

  1. Which partner at that established fund is actually leading the deal? Is it someone with a track record or a more junior partner?
  2. Which fund are they investing from? Is it their core fund, or a satellite one theyโ€™re experimenting with?

“You ultimately need to get to know the people behind every investment decision.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, Private Wealth Management Firm

March 30th is more important than you think

“Ask when you will get your K-1s and insist that it is before March 30th, otherwise you will be stuck extending every year and thatโ€™s just a pain.”

โ€” Paul Griffiths, 15 & Change

Don’t rush into investment decisions

“We donโ€™t rush into investment decisions. It takes us time to reach conviction. Unlike early stage VC, in a fund-of-funds, you expect returns from all your investments. Conviction is required to reach trust. We might not rush into the first vintage, but based on how well we get to know the fund manager, might jump into the second vintage.”

โ€” Itay Rotem, EdRITECH

“There are also a lot of venture funds out there, take your time and meet with a range of GPs before you invest to get a feel for what the investment opportunities are and what feels right for you for your LP program.”

โ€” Beezer Clarkson, Sapphire Partners

“Yes, meet at least 20-30 managers before you make an investment, or use a partner. Like anything, at first you will like almost everything, but it takes reps to truly start to build pattern recognition, and manager investing is a probability based exercise; meeting just a few won’t provide enough data points to have a good sense of what meaningful differentiation looks like (i.e.. meaningful differentiation increases the probability of consistent success, much like counting cards in blackjack. It doesn’t guarantee a payout, but you want someone that has their own version of ‘counting cards’.”

โ€” Samir Kaji, Allocate

Emerging LPs shouldn’t be taking any advice or making any decisions until they’ve met with at least 100 investment firms (and as many different types of firms as they can). 

“The reality is that LPs donโ€™t help each other as much as they should. Thereโ€™s this cooperation versus competition dynamic, this friendly competitiveness, and LPs will be more helpful in less access-constrained deals. That’s something you need to understand as a new LP.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, Private Wealth Management Firm

TVPI hides good portfolio construction

“When I do portfolio diligence, I donโ€™t just look at the multiples, but I look at how well the portfolio companies are doing. I take the top performer and bottom performer out and look at how performance stacks up in the middle. How have they constructed their portfolio? Do the GPs know how to invest in good businesses?

“Iโ€™m not just bothered by my TVPI. I also try to look at the companies and the revenue theyโ€™re bringing in. Some of a fundโ€™s portfolio companies that havenโ€™t raised a subsequent round, which may not look as good in TVPI, but they may not have needed to raise any subsequent capital to scale further. The point is to assess the quality of the underlying portfolio of ‘businesses’ โ€” so factor that in and look at likely exit opportunities for those companies.”

โ€” Asher Siddiqui, Sukna Ventures

Don’t invest in ESG for the sake of ESG

“Avoid ‘ESG’ if they reduce financial returns, are comprised of unaudited made-up metrics that won’t get reported (e.g. ‘we love the environment, and will only invest in ‘green’ companies’ but the LPA doesn’t provide mention of reportable, audited environmental goals or KPIs, or define what ‘green’ means).”

โ€” Aman Verjee, Practical VC

Past performance is not indicative of future performance

“It takes three funds worth of track record to make it meaningful. But even then, itโ€™s even more complicated. Your strategy and risk-to-return profile for a $5 million Fund I will look meaningfully different than yours for a $150 million Fund III. I wouldnโ€™t recommend relying on these blunt instruments for the emerging manager category. So the advice here is that LPs cannot rely on past performance of earlier funds if the latest fundโ€™s strategy has shifted.”

โ€” Eric Woo, Revere VC

Have an LP thesis

“LPs should have a portfolio construction model. What percent are you investing in generalist funds? What percent in thesis-driven ones? And also, what stages? Pre-seed? Seed? A- and B-funds? Multi-stage?

“You should take the total amount you want to put into funds and separate it with a portfolio construction model that makes sense for your risk tolerance.

“Is your portfolio allocation driven by financial returns or certain goals you have? A lot of LPs might want to invest for non-financial reasons โ€“ could be diversity, geographic coverage, verticals, or stage. They might want to support female founders, or ESG. Just like I encourage angels to have a thesis, LPs should have one too. Why am I doing this?”

โ€” Martin Tobias, Incisive Ventures

Why are you helpful as an LP?

“As an LP, you also have to think of your unique value-add. If you have a brand, your name helps with credibility of the fund and helps the GP reach more LPs. On the other hand, you have to think about what kind of LPs a GP would offer their pro rata rights to? For an SPV strategy, those are LPs who:

  1. Backed and believed in the GP from Day 1.
  2. Has written big checks, and/or
  3. Can help the fund’s portfolio companies.”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

“We did have several of those established, persistent performers in the PE/VC portfolio in my prior role though, and that’s because those GPs look for more than just money. They may be looking for someone whoโ€™s strategic to their portfolio, but more so they’re looking for kindred spirits. Show why youโ€™re also a convicted investor, like them, because they’re really just looking for true believers.”

โ€” Anonymous LP, Private Wealth Management Firm

Don’t put your eggs in one basket.

“Putting money into an early-stage fund is a very, very high-risk alternative asset category. Every normal family office puts maybe 10 to 15% of their total net worth behind this asset category. Don’t concentrate behind a single manager. Spread it across five, possibly ten, managers who have truly varied networks.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“Invest in a larger number of fund managers than you might think is appropriate. Focus on smaller, tightly managed micro-VCs (I’m assuming that the LP can’t get into the Sequoia / Founders Fund / Benchmark types). Really dig into their strategy, their edge, and their pipeline. And, spend time with them and learn the trade, get into their co-investment program and be ready to execute!”

โ€” Aman Verjee, Practical VC

“Does it make sense to have 17 funds all in web3? Or 17 funds in fintech? Or even 8 in web3 and 9 in fintech?  My own fund is counter-cyclical, and I think an LP needs to build a portfolio of top managers across the economy.  Healthcare, IoT, fintech, web 3, and other differentiated strategies can comprise an excellent portfolio.

“If an entrepreneur is building in climate tech, there are 10 amazing funds out there who really know climate tech. If youโ€™re building in web3, there are several funds that are so close to the nucleus of innovation and thatโ€™s what it matters. But if youโ€™re building in hard industries, weโ€™re trying to become one of the ten.  A portfolio that consists of a basket of these top ten funds makes a lot of sense if you believe in investing in venture.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, 81 Collection

“LPs can get very excited about tech and venture. They still need to remember this is a high-risk asset class. They should have clarity of what their expectations are. Venture used to traditionally be 5% of private equity. This is funny money โ€“ play money. Itโ€™s less so now, but still is.  LPs do it because it has the potential to provide outsized, risk adjusted, returns.”

โ€” Asher Siddiqui, Sukna Ventures

Patience is a virtue

“It may take seven to ten years (or longer) to see any real return, so be patient.”

โ€” Cindy Bi, CapitalX

“The reason I chose a lot of managers is also so I can start tracking data. I wonโ€™t do re-ups right away because I want to see how theyโ€™ll perform over a couple decades or even over 6 years.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, 81 Collection

In closing

The above is by no means all-encompassing as you refine your craft as an LP. Nevertheless, if you’re looking to dive deeper into the art of investing in non-obvious capital allocators, I hope this blogpost serves as a launchpad for your career. Make new mistakes rather than old ones. The world is better off learning from and supporting each other.

If you learned something from the above, I urge you to reach out to any of the above legends and share your appreciation with them. And if you employ any of their tactics, let them know how empowering it was.

Trust me, it’ll go a long way.


*I’ve made light edits to the above quotes for clarity and since my hand can only take so many notes per second.


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How to Kickstart Communities – A Work-in-Progress

how to build a community, friends

I want to preface; I don’t have all the cards laid out in front of me. In many ways, I am still trying to figure this out for myself. But I count myself lucky to be able to learn from some of the best in building communities. That said, the below are my views alone and are not representative of anyone or any organization.

A good friend recently asked me, “I’m about to start a community. Do you have any tips for how to start one with a bang?”

She’s not alone. Communities have been a hot topic for the past few years. A product of the crypto and NFT craze, and the isolation people felt when the world was forced to go virtual in 2020. At the same time, starting a community and maintaining/managing a community are different. Just like starting a company and growing a company are two different job descriptions. As such, this essay was written with the intention of addressing the former, rather than the latter.

Common traits of great communities

A great community has value and values.

Value is the excuse to bring people together. Value answers the question: why should I join? And within the first week, they should also have the answer to: why should I stay? Two fundamentally different questions. Many communities frontload the value – provide great value at the beginning – facilitating intros, onboarding workshops and socials. Subsequently, answers the first question, but take the second for granted. A community is the gift that keeps on giving. Over time, as you want to be able to scale your time and as the community grows, you need others to help you provide the reason for Why should I stay. Invariably, it comes down to people. You have to pick uncompromisingly great people from the start. And they have to derive so much value from being a part of the community, that demands converts to supply.

  1. They refer others.
  2. They give back to the community – in the form of advice, hosting events, and more.

Value should also be niche – just like the beachhead market for any startup. You want people to self-select themselves out of it, and the only people who stick around are the ones who derive the most benefits from being in it. Take, for example, a community of founders isn’t niche. And there a dime a dozen of the above. A community of pre-seed female founders focused on getting to product-market fit, is.

Values, on the other hand, are the rules of engagement. Codify them early. Take no implicit agreement for granted. Better yet, make them explicit. Back in January 2020, I wrote about rules in the context of building startup culture. I find the same to be true when building communities. “Weak follow-through is another fallacy in creating the culture you want. What you let slide will define the new culture, with or without your approval.”

I don’t mean for you to be a hard-ass on everything. But figure out early on how much slack you’re willing to give, and how much you aren’t. I’ve written about this before. Every person will suck. Every organization will suck. And unsurprisingly, every community will suck. What differentiates a great community from a good community is that the great ones get to choose what they’re willing to suck at.

You should be exclusive

Moreover, my hot take is that you have to be exclusive. Or let me clarify… in the wealth of Slack groups and Discord servers, yet in the world where everyone still has a job (or two), friends, family, and other communities they’re already a part of that all already slice up their 24-hour day pie in so many different ways, you are competing for their attention. If you’re a community, you’re competing against Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Friday happy hours, Saturday nights out with the girls, date night with their partner, eight hours of sleep, their workout routine, and so much more. And so, you have to be inclusive of those who have been excluded. As such, you have to exclude those who have historically been included.

I’m not saying that you should start a community for the underestimated just ’cause. It’s like starting a business because you want the title of CEO. Don’t do it. It’s not worth your time. It’s not worth your energy. But you have to be honest with yourself, are you adding more value in the world? Is there anyone else who would sacrifice their other commitments to belong in your community? And do you have the discipline and the drive to maintain this community in the long term? The worst thing you can do is create a new home for someone then take it away.

Building and rebuilding habits

When starting a community, you are asking individuals to build a new habit. One of your greatest competitors is the incumbent solution of existing habits and routine. Some research cites that it takes 21 days to break a habit. And about two months to build a new one. All in all, 90 days all things considered.

Elliot Berkman, Director of University of Oregon’s Social and Affective Neuroscience Laboratory, surmises that there are three factors to breaking a habit.

  1. The availability of an alternative habit
  2. Strength of motivation to change
  3. Mental and physical ability to break the habit

To break down the above:

The availability of an alternative habit

How available is the replacement behavior? Are there other communities out there that do the exact same thing? How well known are they? What are their barriers to entry?

If there is a readily available alternative community, the first question you need to answer is: why bother making another? Realistically, any one person only has enough time and attention to be in 2-3 communities – total. The second question you need to answer is: how do people normally learn of that community? And subsequently, is there a market or audience who doesn’t have access to this distribution channel? If so, what channels occupy most of their attention? Target those.

Strength of motivation to change

There’s a saying in the world of marketing that goes something along the lines of: People don’t buy products. They buy better versions of themselves. Therefore, as a community, you need to nail the value you provide. Is it aspirational? Does it get people to jump out of their seats and scream yes?

A simple litmus test is if you were to share the reason you created the community, do they respond with “How do I sign up for this now?” or “Let me think about it.”? If the latter, you haven’t nailed your value proposition. In other words, what you’re selling isn’t aspirational. Or if it is, you’re either talking to the wrong demographic or the value proposition is a 10% improvement in people’s lives, not a 10x. Sarah Tavel‘s “10x better and cheaper” framework (albeit for startups) is a great mental model for nailing your value prop. Your community must be:

  1. So much better than the incumbent solution or habit they regress to, and
  2. Easy to jump on (i.e. switching costs must be low enough for it be a no-brainer) – Sometimes this means you need to manually onboard every individual into your community. And sometimes all one needs is an accountability partner. Everyone wants be THE number that matters, not just A number. Make people feel special.

Mental and physical ability to break the habit

This is admittedly the factor that is most outside of your immediate control. Here, I regress to the below nerdy formula I made up in the process of writing this blogpost:

(how much work you need to put into each member) โˆ 1/(# of members)

The amount of work you need to put into inspiring each member to join is indirectly proportional to the number of members you can accommodate in your community. In other words, the less you need to convince people to join your community, the more members you can accommodate. The more time you need to inspire enough activation energy for a person to build a new habit, the smaller the initial cohort of members you can tailor to.

This is why I love the concept of the idea maze so much. Has your target community members put in blood, sweat, and tears trying to find the value that you are providing? Why does this matter?

  1. They’ve designed their life already around finding answers around your value prop. They’re going to be more engaged than the average individual. They’re intrinsically motivated to be curious.
  2. Shared empathy. They know how tough finding an answer is, such that they’re more willing to help others going through similar problems.

The shared struggles that people collectively and synchronously go through together build camaraderie and trust. No matter how small or big. The bonds of a sports team are built upon the sweats and tears of brutal training regimens, losses and wins. The trust of a Navy Seals class is built through Hell Week, pain, exhaustion, adversity, and (the likelihood of) death. And, the friendships between college freshmen are built through the unfamiliar environment of a new and daunting chapter of their life.

In closing

Starting a community is hard. 99% of communities (don’t quote me on this number, but I know I’m close to the mark) disappear into obsolescence after their founders lose their motivation. Oftentimes even prior. Not only are you cultivating a new habit yourself, but you are doing so for everyone else you want in your community. I hope the above was able to illuminate your thinking as much as it did for me. I continue to learn and iterate, and as such, will likely publish more content on this topic in the future. For now, this essay will be my thoughts encased in amber.

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A big thank you to everyone who’s influenced and will continue to influence my thoughts on community, including but not limited to Sam, Andrew, Mishti, Jerel, Shuo, and most recently, Enzo.


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