How to Pick Emerging Managers in 2026

Pavel Prata asked me if I was interested in writing a guest post on his blog a few months back. To which I responded with the fact, that I’m not sure there was much for me to add to the LP ecosystem that I haven’t written about already. And bless how supported he is, but he challenged me to write an updated summation of everything I’ve learned about investing in emerging managers as a progression of how much I’ve learned since I first wrote my initial blogpost that put me on the map in LP-GP land. Which to this point, I hadn’t written something public-facing on that. So eventually, after much inspiration, I finally did.

Now a few months later, I’m finally glad to share it here as well on this blog. I’m not going to include the nice formatting and graphics that Pavel and his team made, so if you want to check those out and for potentially, easier readability, check out my post here.

But without further ado, and thank you Pavel for the inspiration, voila!


david zhou, cup of zhou, superclusters
Author’s note: God, I put on some weight for this photo.

The preface

In many ways, I sit in a place of privilege. I grew up in the Bay Area, and while I was not born into a household of tech, nor did I have any relatives who were deep in the tech ecosystem, I was fortunate to have friends who were and are far more tech forward than I was.

I remember being in elementary school in โ€˜05 and my best friends were deadset on trying to get an account on this new-ish website called Thefacebook. And the primary reason was that we got bored of Club Penguin. The site needed us to be 18 or older (or at least we needed to be some age that we werenโ€™t. We were still living out our best single-digit lives), but I donโ€™t think anyone was really checking. Three misfits. One of us usually received detention for getting in fist fights. His brother would receive principal office visits for making other kids cry. Blunt guy. If your drawing was ugly, heโ€™d be sure you knew. But both were and are good people.

The first would get in fights defending his friends from getting bullied. The second, while lacking social cues, would always sit down with you to help you improve your skills. And me, the supposed โ€œgoody-two-shoesโ€ of our misfits who would follow rules, yet get in trouble trying to get them out of detention. And frankly, none of us were good with our words. Then and maybe still now. Yet nevertheless, one of my buddies found his way to a .edu email address from volunteering at the school library. And that was all we needed to get into the โ€œbig kids club.โ€

I went to a school in the Bay Area, due to it being the far cheaper alternative of the schools I would have loved to go to. There I got involved in the startup ecosystem really early on because of my zealotic obsession with free food in college. (Story for another day.) I became a startup investor because the accelerator was short on hands, and it was through the first startup I was with that I knew they existed as a non-profit at the time. I became an LP because of a community I was helping run and someone asked me to invest as an individual LP for only $1,000 to his oversubscribed fund that โ€œI [had] been really helpful in building.โ€ To this day, I still donโ€™t think I did anything. Then, I somehow built a network of LPs and GPs because I wrote one blogpost that was supposed to be my personal how-to-be-an-LP 101 that went serendipitously further than I expected.

And I say all of that to preface that:

  1. My life is full of accidents and being lucky at the right place at the right time with the right people.
  2. As a caveat that you should take all the words that will populate below with the biases that I may be coming to the table with.

That said, I do believe that life is all about increasing the surface area for luck to stick. Thereโ€™s a line I really like that I came across a few years ago by Qi Lu, who created Bing, Microsoftโ€™s search engine and is the former COO of Baidu: โ€œLuck is like a bus. If you miss one, thereโ€™s always the next one. But if youโ€™re not prepared, you wonโ€™t be able to jump on.โ€

When Pavel asked me to write a step-by-step guide on how to choose managers in 2026, my immediate thought was that I couldnโ€™t ever write it from the stance I have today, but if I were starting all over from nothing, except capital to invest, where would I begin?

Yet knowing what I know now, with the network I have now, with the brand I have nowโ€”though I still have a long way to go, how is investing in emerging managers today different from the last few years?

As such this essay will be split in two overarching sections:

  1. For the LP whoโ€™s just reached the block
  2. For the LP whoโ€™s been around the block

A big thank you to Beezer Clarkson, Dave McClure, and Narayan Chowdhury for proofreading, guiding and helping me frame early drafts of this piece.

For the emerging LP

One of my good friends described investing in venture funds in the 2020s as โ€œexpert modeโ€, as opposed to when he started in 2001 as โ€œthe tutorial.โ€ He said that in 2001, there were 200 firms in total in the market. That he met with half of the firms in the market. Then invested in two-thirds of the firms he met with. And that resulted from three vintages that returned 5X net on his venture fund portfolio. According to him, every fund he invested in was an emerging manager. The whole asset class was an emerging asset class.

Today is undeniably harder than itโ€™s ever been to be a venture fund LP. Thousands of firms in-market. Everyone tells you theyโ€™re the greatest fund since sliced bread. Or in their words, theyโ€™re top quartile, if not top decile. Everyone tells you they have unique access. Yet most people generally have access to the same โ€œlegibleโ€ deals. Or at least, โ€œlegibleโ€ founders which include a river of backwards bias. So, who has โ€œbetterโ€ access? Time horizons are realistically 12-15 years, instead of the 10 years people pitch you. Plenty of GPs quietly โ€œretireโ€ after 2-3 years to go work at a portfolio company or โ€œget acquiredโ€ by a larger platform. IPO markets havenโ€™t fully opened yet, and there just isnโ€™t enough private capital to deploy into the largest companies. 2025 has been an interesting year of one of the lowest years in dollars raised, but one of the highest, with respect to dollars deployed. Six-layer SPVs, where the individual who manages the sixth layer has no idea who actually owns the underlying asset, just a forward contract towards the stock.

The first question you need to ask yourself, and likely the most important question, you need to ask yourself is if someone pitches you their fund, and itโ€™s Wonderbread, why are you so lucky?

How are you luckier than the most established institutions whoโ€™ve done this for decades? How are you luckier than people who are college roommates with Sam Altman? How are you luckier than multi-stage venture funds who have a strong brand AND an active fund-of-funds program that invests in managers sharing their deal flow with them? How are you luckier than content creators who get pitched VC guests all the time? How are you luckier than the owner of Buckโ€™s or Coupa or the real estate firms who own buildings on Sand Hill Road?

More likely than not, youโ€™re not. Iโ€™m not.

A long-time private equity allocator friend of mine has this great line, โ€œThere are only two kinds of people who make money. Really smart people and dumb people who know theyโ€™re not smart enough to beat the market. Everyone in between has just enough knowledge to make dumb decisions.โ€

Thereโ€™s a great line by the legendary Richard Feynman. โ€œThe first principle is that you must not fool yourselfโ€”and you are the easiest person to fool.โ€ Remember that.

So, after all those disclaimers, do you just not invest?

If the above scares you, probably not. Youโ€™re more likely to generate consistent returns by investing in the indices. But if youโ€™re willing to put in the blood, sweat and tears, maybe the below might be of value to you.

The first step is to see a lot of deals. You have no idea what quality looks like until youโ€™ve seen quality. Otherwise youโ€™re spending a good chunk of time imagining what could be and what should be, but not is. Just like the GPs we evaluate need to prove they can โ€œsee, pick and winโ€, we as LPs have to do the legwork to see the best deals, to build the framework to pick them, and to win the deals that are hard to come by. But first, on seeingโ€ฆ

Itโ€™s like dating for the first time. I donโ€™t know about you, and this might be TMI (too much information). Before I dated my first girlfriend, I had all these ideas implanted in me from Hollywood, Hallmark movies, Matthew McConaughey, Sandra Bullock, Anne Hathaway, Hugh Grantโ€”you get the point. I had these faint, rose-tinted ideas of how my future partner should, would, could act. But when I finally started dating, reality was wildly different from expectations.

The same is true when you look at funds. Whether itโ€™s media, podcasts, or newsletters, they all tell you a warped perception of the reality of the market, told through the lens of a world that is most beneficial to their incentives. You need to figure it out your own. And when you do in the first year, maybe a bit longer, you will inevitably talk to more noise than signal. Accept that fact.

To get inbound, you need to do a combination of a few things. Pick your battles here:

  • Put โ€œLPโ€ on LinkedIn. You will have random GPs find you in their search engines and reach out. Almost all will be noise here, unfortunately.
  • Go to events that attract GPs (i.e. EMC Summit, RAISE Global, Bridge Funding Global, SuperVenture, FII, Upfront Summit, etc.). Your priority here is to go to the side events that arenโ€™t publicly disclosed that have LPs and GPs. If you canโ€™t get in there, go find the LP/GP Happy Hours and dinners that are shared on Eventbrite, Luma, and/or Partiful. And if still you canโ€™t get in, at these events, there are occasional speed dating breakout sessions.
  • Reach out to LPs and ask to buy them coffee as you are learning to be an LP. You can find these LPs either on:
    • Podcasts (i.e. Swimming with Allocators, Origins, Venture Unlocked, How I Invest, Superclustersโ€”mentioning my friendsโ€™ platforms before my own)
    • Reacting to LP and emerging manager content. There are a few LP โ€œinfluencersโ€ out there. Note not only who reads and comments on these posts, but whether the original poster also replies back to those comments (which is a loose indicator on the depth of their relationship and if that commenter is somewhat respected in the ecosystem). FYI, donโ€™t use me as a barometer, since I try to reply back to everyone. But a couple โ€œinfluencersโ€ that might help you kickstart your search. Beezer Clarkson, David Clark, John Rikhtegar, Meghan Reynolds, Endowment Eddie (on X), Dan Gray, James Heath, Matt Curtolo, and so on. Occasionally, Hunter Walk, Charles Hudson, Rick Zullo, Peter Walker and a few other VCs also post good LP content. OpenLP is also a great platform that captures the most interesting thoughts regularly, as well as what Pavel is building now too.

Now, that you have a list of GPs and your calendar has a few meetings set up, you ideally get GPs to share their decks with you before the meeting. Although, understandably, it is harder for GPs to trust you with their decks if you havenโ€™t yet built up social capital and trust.

If you can get the deck, I look for a few things. At least one interesting thing on the deck that can help the GP see more deals, pick better deals, or win competitive deals. And (b) is that โ€œthingโ€ an insight that the GPโ€™s prior background would have made explicit or obvious to that GP? For me, thatโ€™s enough to take a first meeting. Do note that most decks look the same. And if you canโ€™t tell one deck from another (thatโ€™s okay, I started like that too), ask the GP before the interview, something along the lines of: โ€œOf everything that is on your deck about the fund, is there one thing about you or your fund you hope that I catch that youโ€™re really proud of but thereโ€™s a chance I might not notice?โ€

Naturally, you can ask that question, even if you donโ€™t have the deck, and if their answer impresses you, take the meeting. I call that โ€œsuspense.โ€ Partial information that I am privy to that elicits further questions and curiosity. To engage with any GP, I need that first.

So then I share my calendar. I use Calendly, but youโ€™re welcome to use any alternative. And I include the below text along with the calendar invite to set expectations.

calendly

Do note that the meeting is only 15 minutes long. You donโ€™t have to do this, but I find it useful because Iโ€™ve seen a number of GPs already. My CRM tells me just under 1000 that Iโ€™m actively tracking. But there are definitely more in the universe. All that to say, Iโ€™ve come to realize for myself that I figure out if I want to continue a conversation with a GP or not within the first 5-10 minutes.

The only thing Iโ€™m looking for in the meeting is โ€œsurprise.โ€ Is there something I can learn from the GP that I didnโ€™t know before? About them? About the industry? About the technologies? Ideally, you also consume quite a bit of information outside of each conversation. For instance, I read research papers, talk to people I think are smart, listen to podcasts, read newsletters, and build things here and there. The more information you consume outside, the higher your bar for โ€œsurpriseโ€ will be over time.

And if I learn something, only then, do I actually start doing homework around the fund opportunity. And spending more time with a GP.

Diligence

For the purpose of this section, Iโ€™m going to prioritize diligence as it relates to people. Iโ€™ll talk about portfolio sizing and construction in the section below. Iโ€™m also going to assume you donโ€™t have the ideal network to diligence the opportunity. What does the ideal network look like?

A small selection of A-players (founders, operators, co-investors, and LPs) that you trust AND they trust you to withhold judgment about them, as well as keep what they tell you in the highest level of confidence.

Admittedly, this will take time to build. Some longer than others. Your mileage may vary from multiple months to many years, sometimes decades. And this will be a part of your job as an LP to continually refine.

But in lieu of that, hereโ€™s where Iโ€™d start:

  1. Find who are A-players. Needless to say, before you can build a relationship with A-players, you must first be able to recognize A-players. Admittedly, this is a lot of legwork. And everyone approaches this part differently. For me, I have to consume a large amount of information from disparate knowledge networks, talk to different people and see who they respect, listen to a lot of podcasts, read a lot of books and content, in hopes of triangulating clarity of thought, as well as executional discipline. I donโ€™t have a silver bullet here unfortunately, but here are a few traits Iโ€™ve seen over the years that seem to have moderate to high correlation with A-players.
  2. Find out what motivates and drives them. What do they need? What do they want? What do most people fail to understand about them? This will also take time, potentially longer than the first step. Your job for now is to establish trust and rapport. โ€œWhat you share with me will never find its way back to the person I am calling about.โ€
  3. And as youโ€™re doing all the above, and still looking at deals. For people you know well and you can attest to their intellectual and executional rigor, ask them for their opinion. For everyone else, focus on asking about the facts. Youโ€™ll need to use the facts to piece together a narrative. Instead of โ€œWho do you likeโ€, ask โ€œWhen did you last talk to X?โ€ or โ€œHow many intros did this GP make for you? And how were you introduced?โ€

Naturally as part of diligence, you need to figure out and corroborate if a GP has an edge. Risks and weaknesses will always be present. Also, expect to get negative references. Any ambitious person is bound to ruffle feathers and rub people the wrong way. If you donโ€™t find any, youโ€™re either talking to the wrong people or you havenโ€™t given those people a safe space to talk. Also I want to note, as Cendanaโ€™s Kelli Fontaine once told me: โ€œNeutral references are worse than negative references.โ€

Negative referencesUnderstanding why itโ€™s negative is important. Is it merely a disagreement on perspective? Or is it evidence or an account of poor work ethic, abrasiveness, lack of open-mindedness, or poor morals?

For instance, โ€œGP didnโ€™t work that hard at our companyโ€ is not all bad, depending on their answer to โ€œWhat did they do outside of work?โ€ If the answer is โ€œI donโ€™t knowโ€, then your job is to find out what they did and if they worked hard there instead because working at their last company didnโ€™t align with their goals.

To give another example, a friend of mine once did a reference on a founderโ€”the lesson is the sameโ€”where a reference told him, โ€œI really hated how X always wore tank tops and sandals when the office culture required us to be put together.โ€ And many of his former colleagues all said the same thing. Yet no one ever complained about the work he did. Because despite his poor dress code, his output was in the top percentile on the team.

GPs, by nature of pitching a (hopefully) new narrative and charting their own path, will be controversial. Itโ€™s just part of the game. But obviously, it should not discount any bad behavior.

Other comments that belie a referenceโ€™s negative sentiment about someone:
โ€œThe GP is interesting.โ€ Interesting is usually a quiet opinion withheld. Itโ€™s always helpful in these situations to prod deeper.

โ€œI like the GP as a friend/human.โ€ Why donโ€™t you like this GP as an (investment) professional?
Neutral referencesNeutral references come in different shapes and sizes. Note that if you ask leading questions, youโ€™ll get safe answers. For example, โ€œDo you like X?โ€ leads to an answer of โ€œOh yes, I like X.โ€

The most common form of neutral references are often masked by positive, generic adjectives, but canโ€™t be substantiated by real examples. Other forms include not remembering who the GP was despite the GP being on the cap table, or working together. Also, on-list references who opt to text/email you about their commentary on a GP instead of call. Or taking a really long time to schedule time with you to talk about the GP, versus immediately leaping out of their chair to tell you about a GP. In addition to that, references (usually on-list or their most notable co-investors or founders) who didnโ€™t even know that the GP was raising a fund or what the GP would be investing into.
Positive referencesPositive ones luckily are the easiest to spot. And itโ€™s not just the words you hear, but the emotions you feel when someone tells you about the GP. These references, whether they say it explicitly or not, would go to war for the GP.

Peter Fenton at Benchmark recently shared a line I really like. “The highest accolade of a firm that they seek is a manifestation of a value system.” Most investmentsโ€”both at the level of an angel investment, but also a number of institutional investmentsโ€”are written as one-night stands. The majority, if not all, of the conversations happen T-3 months before an investment is made. Then as soon as the investment happens, outside of the monthly or quarterly updates, and maybe the board meetings, no other meaningful conversation happens post-investment. And the truth is if an investor hasnโ€™t built their value system (and for that matter, value-add system) before they start their firm, theyโ€™re not likely to change their behavior and their habitual cycles after they start their firm. Moreover, noting my bias, I prefer to invest in GPs where I am investing in the worst version of their firm on the day I invest. That itโ€™ll only get better. And to do so, certain things need to compound: brand, value, network, among others. In order for that to happen, they need to have built a relationship, as opposed to a one-night stand, with many of their investments, even beyond their best ones. So the point of doing diligence is to find evidence of their firmโ€™s value system before they start it.

Having shared the above, now that you have time with the GPs and some of their references, what do you ask?

Note that the below arenโ€™t all-encompassing nor exhaustive questions and that you usually get more from asking follow-up questions instead of building a checklist of questions to ask. Merely, the below serve as a point of inspiration as you do your own due diligence. As such, Iโ€™ve structured the below into categories on how I assess a GPโ€™s ability to see, pick and win through the reference calls I do, segmented by reference archetype.

Seeing

What does their sourcing engine look like? How much is inbound? How much is outbound? Do they have access to proprietary channels for deal flowโ€”even if momentarily? Do they know people who add value to the innovation ecosystem, but arenโ€™t well connected to the rest of the innovation ecosystem?

I will note that most GPs will say most of their deal flow comes from founder referrals.

RecipientQuestionsWhat I Look For
The GPHow do you find opportunities before anyone else?Are they fishing in new uncharted territories? Do they have non-redundant networks and access points?
FoundersHow did you first meet this GP? Do you remember the type of conversation you initially had with said GP?
If the GP met this person via an event: How often do you go to these events? Outside of meeting this GP, whoโ€™s the most memorable friend youโ€™ve made via the event?
If the two met via an intro: How often do you catch up with your mutual friend? Has your mutual friend introduced you to other investors?
Iโ€™m trying to understand how much of a GPโ€™s deal flow is inbound versus outbound. As well as how repeatable certain deal flow channels and nodes are.
Co-InvestorsHow is this GPโ€™s deal flow different from yours? Why havenโ€™t you pursued building out your own network in this field?Can [insert big firm] just do what this GP can? Is there a structural moat?
LPsFor the funds you were also looking at or have in your portfolio, who seems to have the same deal flow channels as this GP?Institutional LPs see a lot, and as a function, they likely see a lot of overlap in inbound channels. So for people who have the same channels, why does a certain GP capture value from it better than the rest?
Ex-colleaguesIn what situations do you typically find this GP to be proactive when you used to work with her/him?
What has this GP done that no one with her/his job title has ever done in the past?
How entrepreneurial is the GP? Is the new firm the first instance of their entrepreneurial nature or is this part of the GPโ€™s inherent nature?

Picking

Thereโ€™s a saying in the land of LPs. โ€œYou donโ€™t have to invest in every great fund, but every fund you invest in has to be great.โ€

So the question comes down to: how do you know if someone is great?

RecipientQuestionsWhat I Look For
The GPWhy have you and havenโ€™t you put the most amount of capital behind your portfolioโ€™s greatest value driver?
If we could go through each of your past investmentsโ€”good and badโ€”can you enlighten me on why you invested in each?
The first question is figuring out if a GP understands how early and how much to put in their greatest outperformers. What signals do they rely on? Are they ready to invest with reserves?
The second question is to understand how the GPโ€™s ability to recognize excellence and insights has evolved. How quickly they ramp up. How many investments it takes for them to shift the way they think. At what point, do previous investments impact the way they make future investments?
FoundersWhat kinds of conversations did you have with the GP before they gave you a term sheet? How long did that journey take? Were you surprised at all? How did the conversations with this GP differ from the other ones you had?From the perspective of a recipient, how much of a GPโ€™s intention is well-understood before the GP embarks on a commercial relationship with the founder(s)?
Co-InvestorsHow often do you take intros the GP sends your way? Was that always the case?
How has your relationship with this GP evolved over time? Where do you foresee it evolving towards?
Do investors understand and value a GPโ€™s eye for people and opportunities?
With the second set of questions, Iโ€™m trying to understand how much a co-investor values this GPโ€™s deals. If the co-investor works at a multi-stage fund, have they ever tried to hire this GP into their firm? Or had them as a scout? Or is it a purely, โ€œitโ€™s nice to have you in our orbitโ€ kind of relationship?
LPsHow have you directly experienced the value of being an LP?Have the GPs provided any value to their existing LPs? Iโ€™m primarily looking at GPs who claim to offer co-invest opportunities. Do they (a) know the founders well enough to get allocation for people the founders likely donโ€™t know or trust yet, and (b) how much do they optimize for whatโ€™s best for the fund versus whatโ€™s best for the LPs?
With (b), itโ€™s not a bad thing to optimize for the fund, but setting expectations is important, instead of claiming to be helpful to LPs without actually being helpful.
Ex-colleaguesHas this GP hired anyone in the past that youโ€™ve genuinely impressed with? Why were you impressed by these individuals? Has this GP done anything to help these individuals succeed over time?Thereโ€™s no direct parallel between hiring and investing, but in terms of recognizing talent, there are some similarities.

Winning

Why do the worldโ€™s best founders want to work with you? What do you have to offer that others donโ€™t? Why would a world-class founder have you on the cap table when there are so many great options out there (and even when thereโ€™s that much inbound interest)?

RecipientQuestionsWhat I Look For
The GPWhat is your proudest piece of advice you gave a founder or the proudest thing you did for a founder?
What’s something you did for a founder or a piece of advice you give that didn’t work out? What’s something you did/piece of advice that did better than you expected?
Can I see every single version of your pitch deck to date? (If thereโ€™ve been previous vintages, ask for those as well.)
Iโ€™m primarily looking for specificity. Was it proactive or reactive? And when corroborating with said founder later on, will that founder reflect the same sentiment?
With regards to the second and third questions, do you measure when things deviate from expectationsโ€”good or bad?
My goal with the last question is to understand how the GPโ€™s thinking has evolved over time. How has the GPโ€™s ability to storytell changed? Do they have a better grasp of how they can add value and what founders actually want over time?
FoundersWhich other investors did you talk to before you took this GPโ€™s check?
Did you know that you were going to be a hot commodity? When and how did you know?
How did the GP help when things werenโ€™t going well? How did the GP react when things turned downwards?
Was there competition for the round? Itโ€™s neither good nor bad if there was. And if there was, why did they end up taking this GPโ€™s check? Would they still take it if this GP wrote double the check and asked for double the ownership?
Co-InvestorsWhat value does this GP bring to the table that seems to be a constant ask from your portfolio companies?Why will fellow investors fight for this GP to be on the cap table?
LPsWho were the most elucidating individuals you talked to best appreciate this GPโ€™s value-add?Are there people you should have talked to but have yet to? Or are there people you talked to but asked the wrong set of questions? Or whom youโ€™ve yet to build rapport with?
Ex-colleaguesWhat would you say is this GPโ€™s greatest asset/skillset? How have you seen it in practice?
Whoโ€™s the best person you know of for [insert what the GP claimed as value add]? Why? On that same scale, where this person is a 10, where does the GP sit? What would help this GP get to a 10?
A-players typically know other A-players, and understanding how they rank a GP among all the other practitioners they know is valuable intel.

Gravitational pull

To tie the above together, there is no perfect emerging GP. And if they are, theyโ€™re probably not an โ€œemergingโ€ GP. I look for emerging GPs who excel in two of the three areas (see, pick, win). One in isolation wonโ€™t help. If youโ€™re the worldโ€™s best sourcer, but you donโ€™t know how to pick the right one even when it falls on your lap, or you donโ€™t know how to get the founder to choose you over others, then sourcing alone is for naught.

I look for GPs to have an unfair advantage in two of the three areas. I need the cards stacked in their favor. Oftentimes, their unfair advantages are further accented by what first surprised me in the first meeting or two. Furthermore, gravitational pull comes from acknowledgement of their unfair strengths, as well as the constant refinement of the craft that increases the firmโ€™s leverage over time.

Partnership risk

One other important element to underwrite is partnership risk. To many experienced allocators, like Ben Choi once told me, this may even be the single biggest risk an LP has to underwrite. If youโ€™re investing in a partnership, chemistry really matters. They may look great on paper. They may have complementary skillsets. But do they talk about each other in ways that raise each other up? How are decisions made? Is there a power imbalance? How is compensation shared (salary and carry)? How much do they not only respect but adore the othersโ€™ strengths? How do they resolve conflict? Have they disagreed with each other before?

Portfolio construction and sizing

By the time you decide to invest in funds (or directly into startups too), you need to understand that youโ€™re building a portfolio. Unless your hands are blessed by a higher being or that you have the Midas touch, there is a ridiculously low chance you can pick 2-3 funds and expect theyโ€™ll outperform. Naturally, you want all the funds you do invest in to do well, but sometimes in this world, you can do everything right and have things still not work out. So expect, on average, most funds will return you 0.8-5X their money back to you.

So there are a few things you need to figure out:

  1. Assuming things go right, and youโ€™ve invested in this 5X fund:
    • Is a 5X net (which is roughly a little over 6X gross) return on your investment meaningful to you and your net worth?
      • If not, then the question comes down to: Is there something else you value from investing in this fund? Some value co-investment opportunities. I know of a number of venture funds, traditional fund-of-funds, and multi-family offices, who see their fund-of-fund program as a loss leader, with the primary goal of the fund-of-funds to generate deal flow for their direct investment practice. As an emerging LP, do consider that if you want co-investment opportunities, are you the largest (or at the minimum, one of the largest LP checks who care about co-investments)? If not, then consider the reality of why would the GP ever give you the best deal flow if youโ€™re not their greatest (monetary) supporter.
      • If so, great. But at the risk of it being a 0.8X net fund, meaning you not only lost money to decision-making, but also to inflation and the opportunity cost of investing in a public market index, can you stomach the loss 12-15 years from now?
        • If not, invest a smaller check size.
        • If so, great.
    • Whatever is needed to 5X the fund, what is the exit value necessary for that?
      • If a GP has no reserves and invests pre-seed/seed, assume 75-80% dilution by the time of exit for the fundโ€™s greatest value drivers. This does not account for acquisitions, which will have a little more nuance. This also assumes that there will be 5-6 rounds of investment after the one the GP invests in.
      • If a GP has reserves, depending on the industry, and how much they continue doubling down on the investment, itโ€™s safe to assume 55-60% dilution. If the GP plans to continue doubling down on pro-rata past the Series A, do account for how much of the overall fund is allocated in a singular deal. Usually limited partner agreements cap it at around 15% of the overall fund, to allow for minimum diversification at the portfolio construction level.
      • And assuming you know the exit and enterprise value thatโ€™s needed to 5X the fund, do you believe thatโ€™s possible? Your job is to go into the internet archives and find, if in the last few years, what percent of companies in that industry has exited for that size. And how likely will it be for future companies to exit at that size? And even if so, do you believe the GP is in the right information flows to capture that outcome?
    • Is the number of companies the GP wants allocation into, reasonable to you? Every person has a different level of tolerance in this regard. To make some gross assumptions, if a GP invests in 50 companies in a fund, then they need a single company to 50X to return your money back once (obviously Iโ€™m taking the gross, not the net numbers). And they need a single company to 150X to 3X the fund. At a $10M post-money valuation, a 150X would turn the company into a $1.5B company. Again, do open a spreadsheet for this. Iโ€™m not accounting for dilution, fees, recaps, and a bunch of other things. This is purely a back-of-the-napkin version of: Do you believe a $1.5B outcome in this sector of choice is possible?
      • Do also note that given that venture is a power law business, a single value driver for a fund usually accounts for at least 60% of the overall fundโ€™s returns. 1-2 companies account for another 20-30%. And the rest, the last 10%. I also want to play my own devilโ€™s advocate that almost nothing in this industry is โ€œusual.โ€

Miscellaneous thoughts

  1. Donโ€™t invest in the first 50 funds you see. You will miss great deals. Thatโ€™s okay. You donโ€™t have to invest in every great fund, but every fund you invest in should be great.
  2. If youโ€™ve been out-of-market for more than a year, do the same. You need to know how people are hiding skeletons in their closet?
  3. Trust the data, but not the judgments of people who see a plethora of deals in venture. Have they seen other funds with the same strategy before investing in this one? What was different?
  4. Almost every fund you meet will say theyโ€™re top quartile or top decile. Be skeptical of benchmarking data, or for that matter, publicly available data that will suffer from availability and selection bias. Theyโ€™re either too opaque or delayed, and in the words of some institutional LPs, โ€œtotally fabricated.โ€
    • To borrow the words of my friend Peter Walker, whoโ€™s constantly cited for his Carta reports, โ€œโ€œYou should probably, if youโ€™re a founder, for instance, selectively ignore at least half of what Iโ€™m saying because it doesnโ€™t apply to you. And your job as a founder, your job as an investor, your job as a thoughtful person is to figure out which half.โ€
  5. Ignore the marketing jargon associated with โ€œselectโ€ track records GPs share with you. Ask for their schedule of investments (SOI), which should include all their investments to date, not just the ones they want you to see. Figure out your own valuation methodology, and prescribe that to their SOI.
    • For me, SAFE notes donโ€™t count as markups, only priced rounds. Any company that hasnโ€™t gotten reevaluated in the market for over 2 years receives a discount. The only exception is strong revenue growth since last round. Discount is based on public market comparables and their revenue multiples. Usually 7-8X on revenue for me. Not always.
    • If a GP gives you โ€œtargetโ€ or โ€œprojectedโ€ multiples, youโ€™re welcome to ignore the number outright. Whatโ€™s more interesting and important are what were the assumptions that led to the projection. What is the expected dilution? How many rounds is a company expected to raise before their projected exit? What is the assumed graduation rate per stage? What is the conservative estimate?
  6. Never trust the word of a GP. Spend more time on reference calls than you do with the GP. When doing references, if you know people really well AND believe they are the top 1% in what they do, ask for their opinion. Everyone else, ask for the facts.
  7. Make sure the data corroborates with the narrative. Is the data/track record repeatable? Being 0.1% on the cap table in three rocketship companies is very different from an investor co-founding a company. The relationship is different. In the former case, the founders, much less the executives, even remember a GP exists.
  8. When asking questions, roughly a third to a half of your questions should be the same across all managers, only then can you compare apples to apples.
  9. When spending time with the GP, find out what they donโ€™t want you to know. What are they scared of, that if you know, they think will look bad on them? Everyone has insecurities. Thatโ€™s okay. But only once you figure that out, can you better assess the information theyโ€™re telling you. And better yet, the information theyโ€™re not telling you. Which is what you eventually go to diligence.
  10. Sometimes thereโ€™s just no LP/GP fit. They might be a great fund, but you just donโ€™t feel the pull.
  11. Set expectations clear from the get-go. If youโ€™re in exploratory mode, say it. If youโ€™re actively deploying, say it.
  12. At any point in time, if you are no longer interested, and know that youโ€™re most likely not going to invest, say it. Itโ€™s better that a GP thinks youโ€™re not going to invest, then you do, than think youโ€™re going to invest, but you end up not.
  13. Be mindful of a GPโ€™s time. If youโ€™re not going to write the largest check as a function of a GPโ€™s fund, know you have limited time with them. Do not waste their time. Know you will have to do most of your homework without the help of the GP. If you want to be spoonfed diligence, this is the wrong asset class for you.

On spinouts, my primary concern is always: Were you successful because of your last firm or in spite of your last firm? If you no longer had the title you did last month or this month, would people engage with you differently? If youโ€™re the keynote for a large conference (i.e. SuperVenture, FII, iConnections, etc.) when you held your last position, will they still invite you back as a headliner when youโ€™re starting a new firm? When people talk about you behind your back about how amazing you are, do they talk in the past or present tense? Tactically, are you the ex-Redpoint partner or Tomasz? Are you ex-Greylock or Sarah? Are you ex-[insert big firm] or you?

As most insights, these will very rarely come out in conversation with the GP. More often than not, theyโ€™ll come out in diligence. Particularly off-list references. If you donโ€™t have the network, you have to rely on on-list references and maybe a few good friends, but know that there is no incentive for people to speak ill of someone else to a stranger. So diligence only the facts. Youโ€™re likely not going to get the honest โ€œopinionsโ€ you want to adequately understand an opportunity.

For established LP

If youโ€™re an established LP, you know most of the above. So instead, Iโ€™ll share a couple reminders that you may have heard before, but are paramount more today than before. Before I share them, hereโ€™s how Iโ€™m categorizing the difference between an emerging and an established, just because I know everyone has a different definition (i.e. AUM size, number of investments made, track record that extends for at least a decade, etc.). Do note, you donโ€™t have to check all the boxes. As long as you have most of the below traits of an โ€œestablished LPโ€, youโ€™re probably established. One of those touchy-feely things where when you see it, you know it.

Emerging LPEstablished LP
No prior network to lean onA robust network to source and diligence deals (meaning you get at least 5-10 quality referrals per month from legible people)
No brandA brand where people will start a conversation with you purely because of the jersey you have on
You need to go out hunting for deals. Show up/host events. Build a platform. Actively book time on peopleโ€™s calendars to find out whatโ€™s going on.(Related to the above) Inbound deal flow exceeds outbound, but with the understanding, to do your job well, you still need to do outbound.
You take time to deliberate on decisions. Understanding whatโ€™s going on takes time. If you were to look only at a pitch deck, outside of the metrics, you might struggle to understand whatโ€™s important. BTW, this is both good and bad. But good in the sense that you donโ€™t have prejudice. And youโ€™re more willing to uncover diamonds in the rough.You make fast โ€œnoโ€ decisions (at least internally). A function of the scar tissue and the training youโ€™ve had up to this point.
You invest opportunistically. You might not have the quality of deal flow to start a consistent deployment strategy. Thatโ€™s ok, BTW.You can invest opportunistically, but if you wanted, or have already, have capital and the network to deploy consistently against some schedule. Could be annually. Could be quarterly.
If you show up at any LP-only event, you might know the host and one other person at best.If you show up at a random LP only event, you know at least a few other LPs in the room by name.
Youโ€™re on an email basis, maybe LinkedIn basis with other allocators and investors. It will take time to build the relationships.Youโ€™re on a text/Whatsapp basis with other experienced LPs and they respond to you within a few hours, if not minutes.
You need to build out your systems for managing deal velocity and future volume. Easier to start when you have less volume. (Building out systems is an article to write for another day.)You have a system for tracking your deal flow pipeline, diligence, and keeping track of your portfolio and anti-portfolio investments.
Youโ€™re not intimately familiar with SEC (and others) regulations around the rules of engagement in LP land.You know exactly what compliance will let you and not let you say. And you know the right verbiage to dance around these topics.

So the reminders:

  1. Be open-minded. To have gotten this far in your investing career so far means youโ€™ve built biases to help you make better decisions. Likely, also faster decisions. Youโ€™ve probably used some phrase along the lines of โ€œThere will always be another train leaving the station.โ€ And youโ€™re right. Most are worth waiting on. But there will be a small, small select few that is worth breaking every rule you know for. The truly once-in-a-lifetime relationship (not just opportunity). Know that the greatest firms tomorrow do not look like the firms from before.
  2. To check your biases, ask yourself three questions:
    • What do you typically gravitate towards? Why? Was there a part of your past that led you to gravitate towards X?
    • What, for whatever reason, do you not like? What gives you allergic reactions? Why?
    • What, for whatever reason, do you not notice at all? Of all the skimming you do, what are the parts of the narrative that you most easily gloss over? Why?
  3. Numbers tell a very small part of the story.
  4. Whatโ€™s worth underwriting more than anything else is motivation. Motivation to outperform. Motivation why this upcoming fund means theyโ€™ll work harder than before. Motivation to get better at what they might already be good at. That means most of the work is qualitative, not quantitative.
  5. If youโ€™re an established institution, you already have a brand. You likely donโ€™t have to hunt for deals (regardless of what you tell your stakeholders). And itโ€™s probably all true. But you wonโ€™t always have that brand. So itโ€™s your job not to do a disservice to the brand. And almost always means you communicate expectations quickly and accurately.

There are two angles here.

  1. Do you want to play in emerging venture today?
  2. Do you want to re-up?

Emerging venture today is an asset class in and of itself. High attrition rates. Too many players. Lack of data. Lack of track record. Sometimes, even lack of network. The underwriting for someone who invests $250-500K checks is different from someone who typically leads rounds. The underwriting of a partnership potentially not yet fully formed until Fund N+2. Data rooms with missing data. A portfolio construction model that is a guestimate at best, completely made up at worst. Assuming youโ€™re reading this, you know that. And that it is a full-time job.

  1. How are you continually refreshing your networkโ€”both for sourcing and for diligence? Are you making sure your network isnโ€™t stale? All networks atrophy over time. How are you keeping your most helpful contacts fresh, incentivized, and willing to give you their honest thoughts? You donโ€™t need a lot here. It helps to optimize for at least 20 relationships, leaning largely into, and likely in the below order:
    • Fund-of-funds who see many deals and whose sole job is to evaluate emerging managers, and/or any institution who has a dedicated emerging manager program (i.e. Vanderbilt, Babson, Gresham, etc.)
    • Service providers (i.e. lawyers, fund accountants, fund admin) who get to know many emerging managers from a different angle
    • A select few hot founders who also angel invest and are superconnectors in their own right
    • Multi-stage fund GPs and partners who often co-invest with emerging managers. Focus on those who have dedicated event series and/or communities for emerging managers. I personally spend less time with venture funds with their own fund-of-funds programโ€”not because theyโ€™re not great, but theyโ€™re often biased to promote their own fund managers. Different story if I knew them before they launched their FoF program and I can get honest thoughts here. If you donโ€™t know who to target, thereโ€™s a select few namesโ€”say around 15-20โ€”that most active emerging managers love to have on their deck.

On re-ups:

  1. What are the incentives of the organization? Do your incentives as an institution still align as strongly with the GP as it did when you first invested?
  2. If not, have you communicated that pre-emptively with the manager?

In closing

Despite the surplus of information and the sheer number of venture funds (in the mid-to high thousands), none of us can do it alone. At least I donโ€™t believe we can. Why? Unlike the public markets where there is as close as we can get to parity of information. The private markets, especially early-stage investments, exhibit none of that. People win on asymmetry of information.

Jacob Miller once told me on the podcast that in investing, there are three things you need to understand. Inputs, frameworks, outputs. Outputs, you canโ€™t always control. But as long as you have good inputs and a great framework, your outputs should speak for themselves. With my blog, Iโ€™ve always tried to empower people with frameworks. With The Side Letter that Sam and I launched, weโ€™re trying to empower people with inputs you canโ€™t find anywhere else.

While Iโ€™d love to surmise all of LP investing in one fell swoopโ€”Pavelโ€™s given me quite the task at handโ€”the truth is I canโ€™t. The best I can do is to share the frameworks I use. The next step is for you to find the inputs that will drive your investment decisions. Those can come from leveraging a platform or community. Hell, even investing in other funds-of-funds. Or collecting asymmetric information yourself. Or a combination of both. Itโ€™s only a matter of how much time, attention, and energy you have on your hands.

As always, and I have to say this at the end of everything I write, the views expressed on this blogpost are for informational purposes only. None of the views expressed herein constitute legal, investment, business, or tax advice. Any allusions or references to funds or companies are for illustrative purposes only, and should not be relied upon as investment recommendations. Consult a professional investment advisor prior to making any investment decisions.


Again, a huge thank you to Beezer Clarkson, Dave McClure, and Narayan Chowdhury for proofreading early drafts of this piece to help me better refine my thoughts here. I wouldn’t be here without you.


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How to Increase Dialogue with your LPs | El Pack w/ Kelli Fontaine | Superclusters

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Kelli Fontaine from Cendana Capital joins David on El Pack to answer your questions on how to build a venture capital fund. We bring on three GPs at VC funds to ask three different questions.

The Council’s Amber Illig asked what happens when a solo GP is incapacitated or passes away.

Oceans Ventures’ Steven Rosenblatt asked why most LPs follow the decision-making of other LPs.

NeuCo Academy’s Jonathan Ting asked what LPs think about GPs asking for help.

From investing in great fund managers to data to investor relations, Kelli Fontaine is a partner at Cendana Capital, a fund of funds whoโ€™s solely focused on the best pre-seed and seed funds with over 2 billion under management and includes the likes of Forerunner, Founder Collective, Lerer Hippeau, Uncork, Susa Ventures and more. Kelli comes from the world of data, and has been a founder, marketing expert, and an advisor to founders since 2010.

You can find Kelli on her socials here:
X/Twitter: https://x.com/kells_bells
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellitrent/

And huge thanks to Amber, Steven, and Jonathan for joining us on the show!

Listen to the episode onย Apple Podcastsย andย Spotify. You can alsoย watch the episode on YouTube here.

OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[01:26] Kelli’s new data discoveries
[04:32] How did Kelli underwrite a manager with no LinkedIn?
[06:19] Is too much data ever a problem?
[08:18] Vintage year benchmarking
[09:49] Telltale signs on GPs’ social profiles
[10:57] Data Kelli wishes she could collect
[15:59] Enter Amber and her new podcast
[18:08] Amber’s background and The Council
[19:08] How does Amber define top companies?
[24:25] How can a solo GP set the firm up well in case they’re no longer there?
[26:11] Kelli’s number one fear with solo GPs
[28:30] Best practices for generational transfers
[32:28] Solo GPs and their future plans
[36:51] Enter Steven and Oceans
[42:38] Would Kelli ever include AI summaries as part of the get-to-know-someone phase?
[44:18] Why do LPs follow other LP’s decision-making?
[48:43] What are the traits of an LP who is likely to have independent thinking?
[51:16] Why don’t LPs talk directly with founders?
[57:59] Enter Jonathan and NeuCo Academy
[1:00:05] Is Kelli seeing more secondaries firms?
[1:01:56] How often should GPs lean on LPs for help?
[1:07:22] Are most LPs helpful?
[1:12:21] What kinds of questions does Kelli get from her own GPs?
[1:15:39] Kelli’s last piece of advice

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โ€œIf that fund deployed over a year versus a manager of ours that deployed over four years, theyโ€™re going to look very different. So we do vintage-year benchmarking to see how their MOIC stacks up against how the revenue of companies stack up.โ€ โ€“ Kelli Fontaine

โ€œTeam risk is the biggest risk in venture.โ€ โ€“ Kelli Fontaine

โ€œThe same top ten firms are not the same that they were 15 years ago, and probably Silicon Valley. Generational transfer is very hard.โ€ โ€“ Kelli Fontaine

โ€œIf you make the brand bigger than just you that it comes from DNA, support systems, things that you stand for that have had support to get thereโ€”so once that brand is made, the other team members embody that brand as well. Thatโ€™s the way to do it. Itโ€™s really empowering other team members to own a part in that brand-buildingโ€”outwardly and inwardly in decision-making.โ€ โ€“ Kelli Fontaine


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Flaws, Restrictions and Limitations

One of my favorite equations that I’ve come across over the last few years is:

(track record) X (differentiation) / (complexity) = fund size

I’ve heard from friends in two organizations independently (Cendana Capital and General Catalyst), but I don’t know who the attribution traces back to. Just something about the simplicity of it. That said, ironically, for the purpose of this blogpost, I want to expand on the complexity portion of the equation. Arguably, for many LPs, the hardest part of venture capital as an asset class, much less emerging managers, to underwrite. Much of which is inspired by Brandon Sanderson’s latest series of creative writing lectures.

Separately, if you’re curious about the process I use to underwrite risks, here‘s the closest thing I have to a playbook.

To break down complexity:

f(complexity) = flaws + restrictions + limitations

A flaw is something a GP needs to overcome within the next 3-5 years to become more established, or “obvious” to an LP. These are often skillsets and/or traits that are desirable in a fund manager. For instance, they’re not a team player, bad at marketing, struggle to maintain relationships with others, inexperienced on exit strategies, have a limited network, or struggle to win >5% allocation on the cap table at the early stage.

Restrictions, on the other hand, are self-imposed. Something a GP needs to overcome but chooses not to. These are often elements of a fund manager LPs have to get to conviction on to independent of the quality of the GP. For example, the GP plans to forever stay a solo GP even with $300M+ AUM. Or the thesis is too niche. Or they only bet on certain demographics. Hell, they may not work on weekends. Or invest in a heavily diversified portfolio.

Limitations are imposed by others or by the macro environment, often against their own will. GPs don’t have to fix this, but must overcome the stigma. Often via returns. Limitations are not limited to, but include the GPs are too young or too old. They went to the “wrong” schools. There are no fancy logos on their resume. They’re co-GPs with their life partner or sibling or parent. As a founder, they never exited their company for at least 9-figures. Or they were never a founder in the first place.

To break down differentiation:

f(differentiation) = motivation + value + platform

Easy to remember too, f(differentiation) = MVP. In many ways, as you scale your firm and become more established, differentiation, while still important, matters less. More important when you’re the pirate than the navy.

Motivation is what many LPs call, GP-thesis fit. To expand on that…

  • Why are you starting this fund?
  • Why continue? Are you in it to win it? Are you in it for the long run?
  • What about your past makes this thesis painfully obvious for you? What past key decisions influence you today?
  • What makes your thesis special?
  • How much of the fund is you? And how much of it is an extension of you or originates with you but expands?
  • What do you want to have written on your epitaph?
  • What do you not want me or other people to know about you? How does that inform the decisions you make?
  • What failure will you never repeat?
  • In references, does this current chapter obvious to your previous employers?
  • And simply, does your vision for the world get me really excited? Do I come out of our conversations with more energy than what I went in with?

As you can probably guess, I spend a lot of time here. Sometimes you can find the answers in conversations with the GPs. Other times, via references or market research.

Value is the value-add and the support you bring to your portfolio companies. Why do people seek your help? Is your value proactive or reactive? Why do co-investors, LPs, and founders keep you in their orbit?

Platform is how your value scales over time and across multiple funds, companies, LPs, and people in the network. This piece matters more if you plan to build an institutional firm. Less so if you plan to stay boutique. What does your investment process look like? How do people keep you top of mind?

Of course, track record, to many of you reading this, is probably most obvious. Easiest to assess. While past performance isn’t an indicator of future results, one thing worth noting is something my friend Asher once told me, “TVPI hides good portfolio construction. When I do portfolio diligence, I donโ€™t just look at the multiples, but I look at how well the portfolio companies are doing.ย I take the top performer and bottom performer out and look at how performance stacks up in the middle.ย How have they constructed their portfolio? Do the GPs know how to invest in good businesses?” Is the manager a one-hit wonder, or is there more substance behind the veil?


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The GP Data You’ve Never Collected Before | Kelli Fontaine | Superclusters | S4E1

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โ€œNeutral references are worse than negative references.โ€ โ€“ Kelli Fontaine

From investing in great fund managers to data to investor relations, Kelli Fontaine is a partner at Cendana Capital, a fund of funds whoโ€™s solely focused on the best pre-seed and seed funds with over 2 billion under management and includes the likes of Forerunner, Founder Collective, Lerer Hippeau, Uncork, Susa Ventures and more. Kelli comes from the world of data, and has been a founder, marketing expert, and an advisor to founders since 2010.

You can find Kelli on her socials here:
X/Twitter: https://x.com/kells_bells
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellitrent/

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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[02:11] How Kelli became a figure skater
[06:59] Kelli’s football fandom
[08:47] Picking schools for critical thinking for children
[10:55] The difference between likeability and founder-friendliness
[13:35] Correcting biases as LPs
[15:07] Examples of what makes GPs unique
[19:53] What kinds of data was Cendana NOT measuring when Kelli joined?
[21:58] What are datapoints that LPs should measure but aren’t?
[23:45] Startup metrics that LPs should track
[26:16] Can you trust the data out there?
[32:05] How does one start building a GP dataset from scratch?
[37:38] Why does Cendana do 40 reference checks per fund?
[39:47] Neutral references are worse than negative references
[42:28] The questions Kelli asks founders when diligencing GPs
[43:44] How Cendana does monthly calls with all their GPs and large LPs
[47:57] How often does Cendana send investor updates?
[49:13] The difference between monthly calls and taking an LPAC seat
[51:19] Kelli’s indelible sports moments to witness
[52:37] What makes Kelli laugh?
[56:14] Thank you to Alchemist Accelerator for sponsoring
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โ€œNeutral references are worse than negative references.โ€ โ€“ Kelli Fontaine

โ€œWhat is unique about their background that gives them a right to win today?โ€ โ€“ Kelli Fontaine

โ€œEverybody uses year benchmarking, but thatโ€™s not the appropriate way to measure. We have one fund manager that takes five years to commit the capital to do initial investments versus a manager that does it all in a year. Youโ€™re gonna look very, very different. Ten years from now, 15 years from now, then you can start benchmarking against each other from that vintage.โ€ โ€“ Kelli Fontaine


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How to Think about LP Construction

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Before we dive into this blogpost, Iโ€™ve been asked by my legal friends to include the below disclaimer. I have a version of this at the bottom of every blogpost, but nevertheless, it doesnโ€™t hurt to reiterate it again.

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One of my favorite scenes as a kid was in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone when Harry visits Diagon Alley for the first time. As the stone wall parted like the Red Sea, we saw a world unlike any we’ve seen before. With that, the audience along with Harry (Kudos for Director Chris Columbus‘ artistic direction) watched in wonder, excitement, and mystery. And Harry and I alike (Admittedly, I didn’t start reading the books till after the first movie) was hit with an overwhelming load of new information to absorb.

Raising your first fund is very much like that. While there are still some elements of familiarity, like investing in great people and winning great deals, you are taking other people’s money (OPM) for the first time. As such, it begs the questions: Who do you take money from? And how do you manage those relationships?

And like the stone wall in Diagon Alley, there’s more than meets the eye.

I have to thank Shiva for first bringing this topic to my attention, one that deserves a more nuanced breakdown than what is currently out there. And when Rebekah brought the below notion up for the Emerging LP Playbook, I knew I had to dedicate a blogpost to just this topic.

“GPs often have some flexibility on their minimum check size. Iโ€™m a pretty small check (particularly since Iโ€™ve been living on a founder salary!), but I can bring other things to the table to help the GPs I invest in (e.g. I highlighted Janine Sickmeyer from Overlooked Ventures in my Forbes column, Iโ€™m an advisor to Zecca Lehn from Responsibly Ventures, I send them deal flow from my AuthenTech community of founders). Iโ€™ve had luck with reaching out and saying โ€˜I really believe in what youโ€™re doing. Please let me know if you get enough large checks and have room for some smaller LP investments.โ€™ Theyโ€™ll usually need to get enough big investments first since there are SEC limits on how many LPs they can have, and then they can let in some smaller, value-add LPs.”

The LP landscape is rapidly changing. What we knew in the last decade won’t get us to the next. The opacity in the LP world is getting undone by new, emerging LPs hungry to get involved and to learn. Folks, like Nichole at Wischoff Ventures have also shared publicly what her LP base looks like, with a level of transparency that’s foreign, yet refreshing for this industry.

Regulation has moved the needle, allowing for greater allocations to equity crowdfunding, as well as introducing more retail and high net-worth individual investors, to join the foray. Platforms, like AngelList, Republic, Twitter, Allocate, and Revere, just to name a few, are creating engines for better GP discoverability. There have been conversations on raising the ceiling on the number of accredited investors in a fund to 600. Which, if passed, will allow for smaller checks into funds, whereas the previous decades only allowed for family offices and institutions, as well as close friends. Anecdotally, I’ve also seen a lot of angel investors starting to allocate to funds rather than just purely startups.

And at this inflection point, as a GP, you need to be ready for this market shift that’s still early now, but starting to move. And hopefully, the below insights from 11 amazing GPs will serve as your wand, potions, owl and broom as you embark into the magical world of being a fund manager.

My methodology

To be fair, LP construction is more of an art than a science. So, I asked GPs who were on Funds I, II, or III. Why? Emerging GPs would best be able to relate a lot more to the hustle of finding and persuading different kinds of LP personas than someone who was on a Fund X or XV, who already have a long track record that speaks for itself.

I’m also a firm believer in tactical mentorship โ€” mentors who are just 2-3 years ahead of you. People who have just been through the trenches you’re in and can share the lessons they learned. At the same time, not too far ahead where they are no longer the best people to check your blind side. After all, the lessons they picked up are still fresh in their mind. As a function, every one of these amazing GPs started their current fund in the past decade. The only caveat is that this may be the first recession they’re investing other people’s money (OPM) into, although they may have invested their own in the previous decade. And while that may be true, their lessons are timeless.

In the world of baseball, there’s the idea of breaking the catcher’s mitt. In other words, a new glove must be worn and used several times before it can achieve its full potential. Pitching to LPs and LP construction as a whole is no different. Just like a founder needs to pitch to several friends, colleagues, and investors, before they can hit their full stride during fundraising, raising from LPs requires many conversations and many iterations. Even Felicis’ brilliant Aydin Senkut got his first yes from an LP in Felicis after 107 iterations of his pitch.

So, in embarking on this topic and to get the best insight I could, it came down to two core pillars: the people I asked and the questions. I’ll start with the people.

The experts

If there were a periodic table of elements for GPs, who would be the canonical faces who would be on there? That’s who I needed for this blogpost. Not me, but them. So I did just that. I couldn’t be more grateful. A big thank you to Sarah Smith, Nichole Wischoff, Shiva Singh Sangwan, Vijen Patel, Eric Bahn, Paige Finn Doherty, Sheel Mohnot, Hunter Walk, Arjun Dev Arora, Steven Rosenblatt, and “Mr. Huxley” for your insights and edits. I know the below will go a long way.

Don’t get me wrong, there are a lot. And the folks included here are by no means all-inclusive. Many who had gone on to raise a Fund IV or higher. In effect, a few years or more out of the emerging manager game. Quite a few I didn’t know well enough. That’s on me. And some who, for all their goodwill and insight, unfortunately, were busy in the weeks prior to this blogpost coming out.

The questions

Building a firm with multiple funds is, in many ways, like driving a car through fog. Not my best analogy, but gets the point across. You see the rough outlines of the road just a few meters ahead, but you won’t see the sinkholes and the cracked concrete until you’re right in front of it, nor do you see any part of the road further than a few meters away. Or as Warren Buffett says, “The rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield.”

Things are often painfully obvious in hindsight, but are scary, mysterious and unknown in foresight. Sometimes, you just don’t know what you don’t know. And as such, I write and I ask, in hopes to help the ones starting off, to develop foresight from the below cast’s hindsight. And to each, I had five overarching questions, coupled with follow-ups for more depth:

  1. What kinds of LP personas should a GP target at the beginning of their fundraise versus at the end?
    • In your experience, what do institutions look for before writing you checks?
  2. How active of a role do you ask your LPs to play?
  3. Are there any LPs you say no to? What is your framework for saying no?
  4. If you have one, how do you think about structuring your LPAC?
  5. What tools do you use to help manage your engagement with LPs?

LP Personas

As you embark on your fundraise, note that different LPs resonate with different pitches. Additionally, when you choose out to reach out to each persona, be aware of what each of these LP personas’ incentives are. As a seasoned LP once told me:

  • High net-worth individuals seek to learn and rarely have a financial incentive.
  • Small and medium-sized family offices seek to learn and access top decile deal flow.
  • Larger LPs, like institutions and fund-of-funds, seek financial return.

From my conversations, it seems most GPs raising a Fund I start with individuals, then target larger check sizes as their fundraise matures. For Fund IIs, many seem to start with finding an anchor LP first, before reaching out to individuals and family offices.

The truth is there’s no silver bullet. And you’ll see exactly why below. So what might be more useful to you, an emerging GP, are anecdotes of what worked for different funds. As I call it, tools for your toolkit.

I will note that the one LP persona I won’t touch on as much since I have a lack of data here are corporates who usually seek technology, as well as information access, largely for acquisition opportunities.

Individuals

Start with people close to you.

“You should always target friendlies first. Welcome your references and first believers who might be founders, individuals, former coworkers, classmates.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“It all depends on which Fund you are raising, how much you are raising, track record, team, and many more variables.  If you are an emerging manager that is not spinning out of a brand named fund with a significant track record, you are going to have to be scrappy and start with people who know and trust you. “

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

“You should always start off with your network โ€“ from the closest circle and outwards through the various concentric circles. At the beginning, you want to focus on finding your first believers. Those are your first-degree and maybe second-degree connections. So it’s less of the archetype of LP, but more so the depth of relevant relationship that matters. After the first close, that’s when you explore emerging manager programs or talk to more traditional asset managers โ€” still largely within your first- and second-degree networks and/or those of your close early LPs and advisors.”

โ€” Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

“The first $5 million is the hardest. Go to your friends and family. Build some momentum. After you get the initial momentum, it builds off of that. Everyone back channels everyone.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

“For the beginning of a fundraise, Iโ€™d recommend asking for advice (before money) from people youโ€™ve worked with for an extended amount of time. Your earliest checks may often be smaller but meaningful amounts from colleagues, co-investors, and GPs at other firms.”

โ€” Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

“The thing is my fund wasn’t oversubscribed from the beginning since I found it hard to raise. It’s a game of momentum, and in the beginning, I didn’t have any. In the beginning, it was about reaching out to the folks that you know. So, I mostly reached out to GPs and fund managers I knew and getting them through.”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

“At the beginning, always start with people you have relationships with โ€” people whoโ€™ve known you for a very long time. They not only want to invest in the fund, but invest in you. My first LPs would have likely invested in anything I created, but they knew I wanted to build a track record in venture. Iโ€™ve known one of my LPs since we were kids. Another was one of my best friends in university. Another was a friend of his.”

โ€” “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds

Beware of relying too much on publicly available data to find LPs.

“The challenge with a purely data-driven approach (i.e. on LinkedIn or Pitchbook) is that you don’t understand the full rationale for why certain LPs invested in a fund. On paper, it may look like a family office is an LP in venture funds, but the principal at that family office could just be the brother- or sister-in-law of the GP. Most LPs also don’t explicitly say they’re LPs on LinkedIn. They could be an asset manager or a CEO of a Fortune 500 company. They almost always don’t want to be inundated with asks. Only after understanding why the industry is opaque, can you then understand LPs and find them.”

โ€” Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

For potential MVP LPs, check size doesn’t matter.

“At the beginning of the fundraise, anyone that knows you and trusts you already AND can easily part with some money. Our first close was $20 million, and it was almost all people who knew us already โ€“ either directly or through our brand. We only had one new investor. In that group, we were lucky to have some fairly common names, which helped build the momentum for the rest of the fundraise.

“We did think about check sizes a little bit. There were some people we wanted to have involved for sure, and for them, the check size didnโ€™t really matter. In our first close, we thought of people who could write a $250K check. And if there was someone we really wanted, weโ€™d reduce it to $100K. Iโ€™m also an LP, and I do the same. If I plan to invest, I always negotiate down as well. The GP tells me X and I say Iโ€™ll invest X, divided by three.”

โ€” Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

Persistence also speaks for itself.

“There are two types of investors: those who will commit to your fund now, and those who will invest after building trust. A lot of investors don’t like to invest in a Fund I. To keep them engaged, you either take a tiny check they’re comfortable with or you share regular LP updates that showcase your proof of work.

“In addition, you have to be clear with expectations. I bucketed potential LPs into four buckets:

  1. High net-worth individuals
  2. Founders and operators
  3. Family offices
  4. And GPs

“With each meeting, my pitch evolved and did a lot of follow ups. I had to show I was getting access to good deals and how I was getting access to those deals. You have to share the story behind that. That’s how you attract other investors. For instance, I remember sending my proof of work and an additional ten follow-ups to an LP. And each time I followed up, there has to be some new substance, value, and proof of work. It was a long process, but he ended up becoming one of my largest checks.

“Investors who were or are hustlers tended to gravitate towards my pitch. They became high-functioning people because of their hustle and respect me for my follow-ups and my persistence. They saw themselves in me. Similarly, founders are most likely going to get a reply from me who follow-up at least 2-3 times.

“The lesson here is that being persistent shows that you care. 99.9% of people won’t follow up, and by doing so, you’re already standing out.”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

There are different ways to get in front of LPs: events, Twitter, deal flow, etc.

“Throw events for your LPs โ€” a nice dinner or a cool experience โ€” and ask them to invite their friends. Host events in a thoughtful way.

“Share relevant SPVs. Even broader, it’s content. Having founders be big fans of yours is also helpful. It’s a positive signal and creates buzz.

“That said, having co-investors who like you is a more direct path. LPs often ask VCs: Who are you co-investing with? Which emerging managers are you excited about? These LPs are looking for names. Some GPs are more generous with intros; while others prefer not to share but that’s OK as long as some do.”

โ€” Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

“Looking back at my experience, a majority of our LPs from both Fund I and II actually came from Twitter and warm intros. I’m on Twitter a lot, mostly because I raised Fund I during the pandemic, so Twitter was where I hung out with many of my friends. I love to tell stories and as an extension I help founders tell their stories. And I host events and have done so since elementary school when I was on the student government event planning board. People are interested in my story because I don’t come from a traditional background. They invested mainly because they realize ‘she’s putting so much into the ecosystem, so it’ll eventually come back to pay dividends.'”

โ€” Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Some individual LPs are not financially motivated.

“I want to preface that we only have foreign LPs, not US LPs. So, sophistication is very different. With European investors, while running a fund investing in the US, you can play the access game. In other words, you can sell access to great US companies. Itโ€™s something I lean on quite a bit.

“My LPs are quite sophisticated outside of the world of tech. Theyโ€™re finance-savvy wealth managers, founders, high net worth individuals with net worths greater than $50 million, where they invest out of leisure and pursuing a mission, rather than for financial returns. They donโ€™t understand venture, but want exposure to venture.”

โ€” “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds

Start with HNW individuals, and end on family offices.

“Let’s make a few assumptions here. Let’s assume this is a Fund I and an emerging manager who doesn’t come from an extreme pedigree. Not from Sequoia or the like. This person is a decent operator-turned-VC, investing with a cool thesis. I’m going to also assume they’re not going to raise a $50 million Fund I or greater. They’re staying small and only raising $10-20 million.

“So I break down LPs into four categories.

  1. High net-worth individuals – These are your angels.
  2. Family offices – They have a lot more assets, usually $100 million or greater.
  3. Fund of funds – They have a mandate to invest in other funds.
  4. Endowments – These are very large institutions, maybe even sovereign wealth. They tend to write big checks into big funds.

“The big mistake I see many GPs make is that most GPs try to target the big ones out of the gate. Rather, in the beginning, focus on the high net-worth individuals. This is similar to asking angels. Their conviction and speed is quick. Their typical check size is no greater than $100K.

“Once you get a few million in the bank, then focus on the family offices โ€” the $1-5 million checks. They tend to operate a lot like angels, but have just accumulated a lot more wealth. Around Fund II or III, then you target larger institutions.

“So, my recommendation is that as an emerging manager, start with angels, end with family offices.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“When you get closer to a final close, and you have a small fund, you can always welcome 1-2 family offices who can write small checks as well as individual investors who can be really helpful.”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

Family offices

Find LPs by optimizing your search with certain keywords.

“Ask your existing LPs if they know anyone. Search LinkedIn to make their life easier. To find LPs, I would recommend looking up the keywords: Venture capital, asset manager, family office, emerging manager, startup (or venture) ecosystem, allocation, active allocator. All the above implies someone is putting money to work.”

โ€” Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

Ask each person for just one intro, nothing more.

“Hustle Fund today has hundreds of LPs in our pipeline. But when we started off, we didn’t know a single family office. So, at the risk of sounding unintentionally mean, here’s how I think about it. Finding a family office is kind of like finding a cockroach. It’s always hard to find the first one. But once you find one, you’ll find a whole nest.

“I’ll share a tactical networking tip of how we found family offices over time. So, let’s say we chat with David. He likes us and decides to invest in the fund. We then share our fundraising blurb and deck and ask, ‘Do you mind sending this to one person you think would be a good fit for our fund?’

“The mistake I see a lot of other fund managers make is they ask, ‘Do you mind sharing this to anyone you think would be a good fit?’ Don’t ask for too much. There’s just too much paradoxical choice. There’s too many in their network to choose from and that overwhelms them.

“So, we change the question to just ask for one. That’s it. Generally, they think of the richest person they know. With just one intro, you’re magically in the family office world. A rich person tends to be friends with a lot of other rich people. It is secretive, but they also talk amongst each other a lot. When they invest, they like to bring their own friends in too.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Ask for intros to LPs who backed GPs who look like you.

“Another big filter is to find LPs who have backed GPs that look like you or have a similar investment strategy. For me, it was finding LPs who have backed solo GPs. To be fair, itโ€™s not easy to figure out, since it is a rather opaque industry. So, I had other solo GPs I knew well and have co-invested with help make intros to their LPs.

“For LPs that Iโ€™ve never talked to before, a question I always ask LPs is: ‘Have you ever backed a solo GP?’ If not, donโ€™t waste your time as youโ€™re extremely unlikely to be their first. They likely have strong philosophical reasons to not back solo GPs so your meeting time is better spent elsewhere.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

Institutional LPs

Don’t underestimate the power of an anchor LP.

“If possible, having a respected entity who could anchor 5-10% of the fund would be ideal. In my case, my former partnership Bain Capital Ventures anchored my fund which was ideal because it keeps us connected and they are well known in the industry. Just like for a founder, having a lead is important. Having an anchor early helps you build momentum to close the rest of the fund.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“For Fund II, I wanted an anchor LP to provide stability and credibility in the fundraise. Cendana was my number one pick. As a function of fund size at the seed stage, they’re definitely the best. The Harvard of LPs. To become part of their community, for me, was really important.

“It was a hard process, but was doubly as difficult, since Josh and I went our separate ways for Fund II. We had to communicate that decision to our 120 LPs in Fund I before starting the fundraise.

“In Fund I, some LPs believed in me. Some believed in Josh separately. I remember fondly of our first $10K check of belief capital. BGV’s most expensive decisions were our investment decisions. We made all our decisions together in Fund I. We also tried doing a few SPVs via Assure. While it was a great start to our career in VC, it required more work than we thought made sense. But for Fund II, it was going to be different. It was just me. No more SPVs, just checks out of the fund. The story itself wasn’t hard to communicate, but when we got to our 70th call, it was hard to sell the same emotional story.

“So, once we did, I put in the work. I flew to Australia to get introductions and to meet his teammate. Whenever I chatted with other GPs that were backed by Michael [Kim], I’d ask them to say hi to him.

“Pitching to Cendana, and most importantly, Michael, was the longest sales process I’ve ever gone through. He passed on Fund I, but he finally said yes to BGV’s Fund II. Along with Michael, GREE also doubled down on Fund II, along with operator checks from folks at Dropbox and other companies.”

โ€” Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Bigger LPs have the ability to write smaller get-to-know-you checks.

“At the end of Fund I, we ended up with Cendana, Greenspring, Industry, Vintage, and Invesco. All fund-of-funds, but they all wrote relatively smaller checks than they typically do. For all the afore-mentioned funds, they wrote $1-3 million checks. It was a get-to-know-you check. They would talk to other companies in our portfolio and other managers we co-invested with. And so the best way to get in front of them was to get intros from other managers these fund-of-funds invested in.”

โ€” Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

Talk to LPs whose minimum check size is 20% or less of your fund.

“Some CIOs like being in Fund Iโ€™s; others donโ€™t. Thereโ€™s a lot of alpha in Fund I. At the same time, there are others that wonโ€™t consider you seriously until Fund III. The challenge is figuring that out as quickly as possible.

“The best filter for this is figuring out what their minimum check size is. And, is that greater than 20% of your fund size? If so, it wonโ€™t be a good fit.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“Biggest thing is their own AUM and the amount they need to deploy. First barrier to entry is the size of the fund you are raising as the GP. If you are raising sub-$75M (give or take) it wouldn’t be big enough for their minimum check size. LPs don’t want to be even close to a majority of your fund, or likely more than 20%.”

โ€” Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

“Some institutional LPs also cannot write small checks since they are dealing with other variables around their asset allocation models.”

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

Start conversations early with LPs who can invest in the ideal fund size you want to raise.

“Itโ€™s not just about what your fund size is today, but where you aspire to be. Say you have a $25 million fund today, but aspire to have a $150 million fund where you lead Series As by Fund III or IV, then you should still talk to LPs who are able to write checks that are 20% or less of that future fund. Itโ€™s important to know there may be incredible university endowments or foundations who really like you as a GP but in order to run their business efficiently, they have to be able to write minimum checks of $25M or even $50M+ which means they only seriously consider funds of $150M+.

“The question for you, the fund manager, is: Are you going to grow your fund size over time? Or are you going to stay consistent with your current fund size? If the former, then you need to spend a fair bit of time in your deck about how your strategy will shift over time and some views into those larger future funds.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“I started having conversations with institutions while I was raising Fund II knowing they wouldn’t come in until Fund III at the earliest. You need a lot of touchpoints and time with these types of LPs before they invest. I am very focused on LPs that want to underwrite me/the fund for years. I want long lasting relationships and partners that can come in fund over fund.”

โ€” Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

“So, when I speak to institutions that are more data-driven โ€” they think about the scalability of AUM โ€” I knew many of those folks were not going to be the best fit. That’s why raising Fund I was so hard.”

โ€” Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

“We have been cultivating relationships with a large amount of institutional LPโ€™s over the last few years.  Investors invest based on trust and relationship and in our mind that doesnโ€™t happen overnight.”

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

LPs hate surprises.

“There are some institutional LPs who will give you transparent feedback and transparency about their process but most do not.  The #1 thing that rules them all is track record and performance. Institutional LPs donโ€™t want surprises; they want to see a multi-year established track record in what you are investing in.”

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

And even if they disagree with you, LPs like consistent LP updates, even prior to their investment.

“We have a couple institutions that have invested in Hustle Fund. What I didn’t appreciate out of the gate is how long it took to build those relationships. They want to see at least one fund cycle, ideally two. That’s usually anywhere between two and four years. But we’ve nailed how we do it passively.

“We have a newsletter that goes out on the first day of each month at midnight โ€” every month for the past 5.5 years. Each issue has two things: a state of the market and a deal memo on each deal we’ve invested in.

“Today we have 150 investors across three funds and an additional 450 investors who have not invested yet. Think of it like a monthly drip campaign for these prospective investors. Investors get to see what we execute against what we say we’re going to do.

“In some cases, these investors like what they see and choose to eventually invest. In other cases, they find themselves totally disagreeing with how we run our process so they don’t invest, and that’s okay, too. Drip campaigns are always a great marketing tool to close customers. That’s no less true for Hustle Fund. So, at some point, when we mention we’re going to raise a Fund IV, all the meetings will just line up.

“I’ll share a story. Our biggest LP, Foundry Group โ€” Jaclyn and Lindel run their LP initiatives โ€” initially didn’t like our thesis and approach. To them, our investment model was a little too spray and pray. But at the end of our Fund II, they told me, ‘Even if we’re a little uncomfortable with your thesis, you’ve been so consistent with sharing how you’re learning and developing, and we love it. So, we want to invest now.’ They invested because of our newsletter, and witnessing our exact fund thesis. You gotta put in the work. And if you do, the money will follow.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Give LPs a compelling reason not to back an established fund. Otherwise, they will.

“Every institution is different, but itโ€™s also really important to realize that with most institutions, the decision maker is not making the decision based on their own capital. So, risk is a huge point. No one is going to get fired for backing Sequoia. They could potentially get fired for putting a huge check into a new emerging manager that isnโ€™t proving anything and going backwards. Itโ€™s important to understand the incentives of who youโ€™ll be working with. So institutions are a completely different beast than individuals. Anything they do thereโ€™s usually 5 to 10 back references. Itโ€™s a small world. For pushback, they want to see a track record, which is really hard for emerging managers. And they want to see some sort of pedigree.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

“Iโ€™m the horrible anomaly of being able to raise from institutional LPs in my first fund. Iโ€™ll chalk up timing, privilege, and reputation as being the reason we were successful in doing so. While not all of this is relevant to emerging managers today, 100 Days of Fundraising was a blog post which detailed how Homebrew ran its process.”

โ€” Hunter Walk, Homebrew

Author’s Note: Of particular note, in Hunter’s alluded blogpost, is when he writes:

“What we also had was a point of view as to where weโ€™d be investing: the Bottom Up Economy. This set us apart from other funds with broader or non-descriptive investment principles. We also had given extensive thought to our portfolio construction strategy around playing lead roles in rounds, the number of deals we would do each year, how much capital weโ€™d hold back for follow-on, etc. The combination of these two meant that a fund could see how weโ€™d be differentiated in the marketplace and where weโ€™d fit against their current exposure.”

Should your LPs be active?

The truth is, and you’ll read this below, most LPs are passive. But in a world where you take so many different types of risk as an emerging GP, it helps to have people you can lean on. So, it really comes down to two questions:

  1. What can you ask of your LPs?
  2. What is the upside and downside to having active LPs?

The bull case for active LPs

HNW individuals are just waiting for the ask.

“The LPs I love working with are the ones who are going to be actively involved. They share their expertise with the portfolio, answer our questions, and are willing to jump on random calls with me. A lot of our LPs are high net-worth individuals, and they’re just waiting for the ask. They’re waiting for the GPs who they invested in, to engage with them. Sometimes, all it takes is a 20-minute call to share deals or thoughts or questions.”

โ€” Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Your LPs will make LP intros if you have a good story.

“I think you can do a good job of getting LPs to send intros. If you can build trust and tell a good story, your LPs will naturally tell others because it comes up at a cocktail party organically. A VC fund is more interesting than ‘Hey I invested in a new ETF.'”

โ€” Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

Incentivize your LPs with additional carry.

“With Fund II, my Fund I LPs opened the door to other LPs in their network. Additionally, I am quite generous with my 20% carry for running the fund. I share 5% of the carry pool with other founders and LPs who send me deals, help with diligence and introduce me to other LPs.”

โ€” “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds

Leverage your LPs’ brand to win deals.

“In my case, I had smart and well-connected LPs, and I was able to win deals because of them by inviting them into deals I wanted to get into. Some of my LPs happened to be fund managers as well, and I have been able to learn a lot from them.”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

Build communities alongside LPs.

“I do believe there is room for LPs to provide value on top of what we expect today – better ways to tap their networks on behalf of our portfolio companies for example. At Screendoor for example, a fund of funds that backs underrepresented emerging managers, we strive to create a community among these VCs to support each other, and also pair them with VCs (like me) who can be coaches along the way when they have questions about firm building.”

โ€” Hunter Walk, Homebrew

If you’re doing something for the first time, ask institutional LPs how other managers they’ve backed have done so.

“Since their investment offices have decades of experience in the venture sector and exposure to top managers across all stages, we often turn to them to gut check our reality against their perspective of the market. And when we encounter a type of situation for the first time, understand how other managers have approached the solution.”

โ€” Hunter Walk, Homebrew

Author’s Note: Paige’s anecdote on how she engages her LPAC below is a great +1 to this point.

Let your LPs choose the kind of LP they want to be.

“I have no preference here. Rather, Iโ€™m open to what my LPs want their experience to be like. I have LPs that want to be more passive, as well as operator LPs who want to learn more about investing, lend expertise during diligence, facilitate customer intros, and even help out portfolio companies with hiring.

“After my LPs wire their money, I send them an intake form where I ask the question: How would you describe yourself as an LP? I have a number of statements they can select to indicate whether they are a newer or more experienced LP, if theyโ€™d like to be more active with founders, how often theyโ€™d like to communicate with me, and if they are interested in co-investment opportunities and events. I have another question following that: If you want to be more active, what are ways you enjoy helping?”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“I leave it completely up to them, but they typically opt to be more active. I host monthly one-hour office hours, share quarterly updates and deal reviews. For office hours, while we mostly chat about interesting deals Iโ€™ve been seeing in the last 30 days, my LPs can ask me anything. I try to be as communicative as possible โ€“ valuations, deal memos, and diligence. Sometimes they ask me to set up an additional SPV if theyโ€™re interested in putting additional capital in. I have a separate Airtable for deals weโ€™re diligencing at the moment which LPs have access to. If theyโ€™re interested in a deal, they can reach out and ask. If not, they donโ€™t have to.”

โ€” “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds

The bear case for active LPs

Having engaged LPs is a lot of work.

“Candidly, I don’t want LPs that want to be super engaged outside of maybe one or two. It’s enough work as it is with quarterly reporting, etc. I want LPs focused on returns. Cendana is the most active with me and in great ways because they have so many emerging managers. I can strategize on fund size, raise timing, first hires, etc.”

โ€” Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

Emerging LPs want to learn from you, but remember you’re an investor, not a professor.

“Emerging LPs want that education. For emerging LPs who write a $5 million check or greater, they might like for you to jump on a call every quarter to educate them and share your current portfolio and what else you are seeing out in the field.

“Also, be thoughtful about how you’re managing your time, so that you don’t turn into a full-time venture professor. You’re an investor, a GP. That’s what you’re getting paid to do.”

โ€” Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

Then again, most LPs are just passive.

“Most LPs are pretty passive. Sometimes they are helpful by making intros to our portfolio companies. We also like getting a pulse on the market from them.”

โ€” Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

“Mostly passive. Most of the time, when the deals are good, they require little involvement.”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

GP-LP fit: Red flags and things to watch out for

Avoid LPs who ask for special terms.

“These are long-term marriages, really long term. If you are going to be partners for the next 10-20 years, you better like each other. We have a no-asshole rule. We want investors who believe in our approach and ethos. My mentors at some of the top VC funds of the last 20 years have also coached us to keep the terms clean and I think a lot of emerging managers feel pressure to give special terms and ownership of their management company or GP, and long term, that might be something you regret.”

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

“While I haven’t said no yet, I have selectively not followed up. For example, after talking with other GPs, Iโ€™ve heard some LPs were tricky to manage โ€“ outside the norm. Itโ€™s okay to expect quarterly communications, but when people start pushing an agenda, thatโ€™s too much.

“Avoid LPs who ask you to give up economics as a GP or change your terms. LPs who want to negotiate lower management fees, a different carry structure, or they want to own 20% of the general partnership for the next three funds are best avoided if possible. They want to change the terms that everyone else has. I wouldnโ€™t allow that. If other LPs find out (and they eventually do), it would cause my LPs to lose trust in me and rightfully be frustrated that they got worse terms.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

Do your LPs’ goals align with your fund goals?

“As we got into the process we realized there was, at the time (2013) some other attributes we needed to take into consideration. One for example was the LP’s definition of success.

“We wanted LPs who were investing in us solely because they thought weโ€™d be good stewards of their capital and return above-benchmark results. If there was a second agenda that they made obvious we typically declined the opportunity to work together. Our mindset was that thereโ€™s so much risk in trying to build a new firm, letโ€™s focus all of our energy on a single definition of success: cash on cash returns. That precluded taking capital from LPs who were emphasizing direct co-investment (some of our LPs have direct practices and we love to bring them in to portfolio company cap tables when thereโ€™s mutual interest but we didnโ€™t want it to be an expectation) or strategic investors who had interests in our portfolio different than our own (e.g. corporates that wanted access to market information).”

โ€” Hunter Walk, Homebrew

Do you have the bandwidth to teach?

“If someone wants to learn, that can take a lot of time. Time that, for you, might be better spent elsewhere. If you’d rather spend the time elsewhere, like with your portfolio or investing, be clear with expectations. And if they don’t budge, don’t take that money.”

โ€” Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

Beware of round tripping.

“I actually couldn’t take any Indian capital due to regulations. There’s a thing called ’round tripping.’ If a fund in India invests in a fund that’s built in the US, then invests back into Indian startups, that’s round tripping. And unfortunately, not allowed.”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

Check your CFIUS rules.

“Before you say yes to LPs, check the CFIUS rules. Under those guidelines, you may not be able to take money from certain countries and parties.”

โ€” Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

Did you take the right capital from the right people?

“Even though we heard โ€˜noโ€™ a lot during our first fundraise we also turned down some offers. Weโ€™d already done a good job of pre-screening out LPs who we didnโ€™t think were values aligned with Homebrew (e.g. money came from sources/institutions we wouldnโ€™t want to work on behalf of).”

โ€” Hunter Walk, Homebrew

“If they’re asking for things that you’re not comfortable with, then you probably shouldn’t work with them. The key is that there should be zero second-guessing. You need to be in a relationship with partners you won’t regret, during bull and bear markets. Ask yourself, ‘Did I take the right capital from the right people? Sometimes, it’s about where that capital came from and if you feel good about that. If there’s any inkling of doubt, don’t take the money or it’ll come back to haunt you.”

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

“You need to communicate your clear values as a fund and long-term platform. Any LPs not aligned on your mission and values would be people to say no to quickly.”

โ€” Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

“So, I did say no. I turned down a million dollar check because I didnโ€™t feel comfortable with him being in front of a founder. And weโ€™re very geared on our community. Moneyโ€™s nice, but itโ€™s not everything.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

“Another thing to be mindful of is if an LP has a history of making verbal commitments and then changing that number at closing. You want a reliable and trusted relationship. If you did a reference with another GP, and heard that an LP cut their commitment by 50% at the last minute, that capitalโ€™s just not worth the risk to me.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

Don’t tolerate disrespect.

“I said no to a few LPs in Fund II. This was largely because they were super disrespectful during the raise process. I had an LP fly in from the UK after already committing and was so insanely rude to me in front of his all-male team that I decided not to work with them. I also try to be very transparent for folks that might not be a great fit for the fund.”

โ€” Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

“Small things I look for include off-color jokes, like ‘Look at that hot chick,’ or asking stupid questions. Some LPs have said this to Elizabeth, ‘How do you balance being a mom and being a full-time investor?’ I dare people to ask me that question. I’m a dad and I’m still doing it, but no one does.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Authorโ€™s Note: Eric goes into much more detail on ten reasons why you shouldnโ€™t take LP money here, which I highly recommend a read.

Are your LPs disengaged during the diligence process?

“There are people who are disengaged in the diligence process. Those are people who are usually a bad fit.”

โ€” Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Look for complimentary experience and diversity of opinion and experiences.

“Like any cap table or LP base, what is important to us is to have partners who can grow with us for a long period of time and where we have diversity of thought, experience, and exceptions.  It was really important to Oceans and our ethos to have amazing founders and tech execs as LPs early on who could be great to lean on for diligence and additional leverage to support our founders and entrepreneurial family offices.  At the same time we have LPs who are extremely valuable on the finance side and who have a long history of investing in venture. Complimentary experience and diversity of capital is really important to us.”

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

“I also want to put it out there that GPs should be intentional about their LPs. For me, I aim to have my LP base include at least 50% who identify as women or non-binary, 10% black or Latinx, and 10% LGBTQ. Be intentional and solicit a diverse group of people. People talk about the diversity of founders and venture investors, but not about LPs. I think a lot about wealth creation, and it starts from the very top. I think people should be thinking about that a lot more.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

Don’t discount vibe.

“For Fund I, we had a chance to close $30 million worth of LP capital, but we only chose to raise $11 million. That’s a lot of people we said no to.

“It comes down to say a single word: vibe. It’s kind of like a marriage. ‘You’re trusting me with your wealth for a decade, if not more. It’s not a relationship we take lightly.’ I also share all the reasons why it won’t work out. So our LPs know what they’re getting themselves into.

“If something feels off, I don’t have to explain it. No one on our team has to explain it. If your gut feels like this could be off, we should just always trust that. Those one or two LPs your gut tells you is off are likely going to be super annoying,

“People like to logos their way out of things, but you really have to go back to gut feel. It’s almost never worth it. I can’t explain what an asshole feels like. But when you meet one, you know it.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“If I have a gut feeling that something is weird, then I trust that.”

โ€” Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Big checks prevent you from bringing in other LPs you want.

“We havenโ€™t had to say no to that many LPs. In our case, we either told them, ‘It’s too late โ€“ weโ€™re full now and donโ€™t have room for you.โ€™ Or we talked LPs down from how much they wanted to commit. We had an LP who initially committed $22 million. And we told them, โ€˜Hey, we want to add more investors to our fund, so we donโ€™t want to have any investors who commit more than $15 million.โ€™”

โ€” Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

Sometimes, the check size is just too small.

“Iโ€™ve said no because people wanted to invest below the minimum. To which, I told them to wait until they could meet the minimum. Iโ€™m not in the business of putting people in financial distress. And if my minimum, which is modest by design, $100K, called over two years, puts people in a position where they are stressed out, they shouldnโ€™t invest in me or perhaps venture as a whole.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“As the fund grew, I would turn down certain individuals due to check size.”

โ€” Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

But check size can vary based on an LP’s value to you or the portfolio.

“I also only reached out to people I wanted to have on board. The minimum check size did vary from individual to individual, which I largely based it off of the value they could provide for the fund and my portfolio companies.”

โ€” Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

Or don’t settle and aim high.

“I hate the word ‘oversubscribed.’ It’s something I was lucky to learn very early on. Early in my career I had a board member say to me that if you hit your goals every quarter, your goals aren’t high enough.”

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

Author’s Note: As you might realize even more after the last three pieces of advice, there’s really no right answer.

How do GPs think about building an LPAC?

Your anchor and other major LPs will ask you to create one.

“On the LPAC, I think I can confidently say that no fund manager wants an LPAC and proactively creates one. It is usually the ask of an anchor LP as you scale fund size. For example, for my second fund, I was asked by an LP to create one, and I was told a good number of LPAC members is three. You want the anchor LP in the LPAC because they are your biggest investor, and the two others should be trusted partners who want to help you. It’s up to me who I ask assuming not many have asked to be a part of it.

“I’ve been told most managers will have a bi-annual quick check-in call just to talk about how things are going. TBD if I ever do this. On the other hand, a lot of managers try to wait until they have at least $100M in AUM to give into an LPAC. But I didn’t say no.”

โ€” Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

“I think itโ€™s, in large part, who wants to be on it. A lot of your larger LPs, in exchange for 10% of your fund, want to be on your LPAC. There are some investors who committed 10% but donโ€™t want to be on it. Itโ€™s not like a board. If people want to be on it, itโ€™s okay.

“We have five on our LPAC, and itโ€™s a good number. We give them an early look by sharing with them our plan and fund deck. So, they gave us early feedback, like on carry structure.”

โ€” Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

If a smaller LP wants to be on the LPAC, push back by giving them options that fit what you’re looking for.

“There are no real rules about how you approach them. We typically like to have our largest investors in it, at least symbolically. They’re putting in the most risk, so they should have a say in the direction of the firm.

“If someone does ask for it, and if they aren’t a large enough check, we tell them, ‘We like to reserve this spot for our largest LPs because they have the largest exposure in our fund. We’re open to you being a member in our LPAC, if you increase your check size.” That way, you can leave the ball in their court. Either, they won’t push further or they’ll commit more capital to the fund.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Evaluate a potential LPAC member on five different dimensions.

“So I will preface that emerging funds โ€” Funds I to III or IV โ€” are different from established funds, which have a mostly institutional base. Those who tend to write large checks may also be more inclined to want a seat on the LPAC.

“We look at it from these different dimensions, which we categorize into:

  1. Flexibility,
  2. Complementary skills,
  3. Ability to give honest feedback
  4. Value, and
  5. Capital

“So, flexibility is important because we’re not an institutional fund yet. The construction of the committee depends on the ebbs and flows of fundraising. Some investors don’t want to be on an LPAC โ€” conflicting interests, not wanting to be actively involved, or just don’t want the time commitment. This’ll admittedly look very different for an institutional LPAC down the road for someone who has several hundred million in AUM. Institutional LPs will ask to have a seat on the LPAC, especially if they’re writing a check that accounts for 20% or more of the fund.”

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

Go to them if you plan to go off-thesis.

“You go to them for things you might think are a conflict. For example, if I say I write $1M checks and I am considering going off-thesis and writing a $250K check, I might want to gut check and get a thumbs up that I’m not being an idiot. It would be a super simple email saying: โ€˜Hey team, here’s the scoop โ€“ please share thoughts.โ€™ It’s very loose.”

โ€” Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

Ask your LPAC what they’re seeing in other managers they’ve backed.

“I didn’t expect to negotiate my LPA with Cendana. I have Michael [Kim] and Yougrok [from GREE Capital] on my LPAC. Youngrok is someone I meet with very often. And since GREE backed us since Fund I, he’s seen my growth as a fund manager. Our LPAC offers a great and critical lens into the industry.

Individually, I chat with both quite often. Together, as an LPAC, we meet quarterly. We’re also going to have our first general annual meeting on April 21st.

What’s great about Michael and Youngrok is that I’m not afraid to ask questions I think are dumb. If you’re in your Fund I or II, like I am, you’re still figuring shit out. You’re still testing what works and resonates and what doesn’t. I ask them, ‘what have you seen other managers do in this situation?’ They’ve worked with so many other managers, and in learning from their deep knowledge, I’m better off as a manager. It’s about building BGV as a long-term institution.”

โ€” Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Your LPAC is your LP base’s chief influencer.

“One useful note about having an LPAC is that sometimes you want to make a minor change to the LPA. Say you originally planned to only invest in North American companies, but now you want to invest 5% of the fund in African startups. If you donโ€™t have an LPAC, you have to go back to all your LPs each time you change the parameters of the agreement. If you have an LPAC, they can approve those minor changes for you on behalf of the rest of the LPs.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“To be honest, I’m still confused about the purpose and concept of an LPAC. I like to think of the LPAC as the influencer of the LP base. They keep the investors’ interests in mind and help you communicate hard decisions to your investors.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Consult your LPAC for tough decisions.

“It definitely matters more at the end of the fund life. For instance, if we want to wait an additional year for Stripe to IPO. Then we consult with our LPAC to figure out the best way to message that to our LPs. Additionally, we can ask them what they think about a deal we’re about to do. It can also be useful in corporal situations. Hypothetically, if Elizabeth was beating me up, I can ask our LPAC to help me remove her.”

โ€” Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“Since weโ€™ve got a very small group of LPs that make up 95%+ of our funds, there isnโ€™t much difference between our relationship with our LPAC and the other LPs. That said, we do have an LPAC and itโ€™s composed of the largest investors in our funds. We meet with them once a year – typically a lunch before our annual meeting. And share the materials/discussion with the rest of the institutional LPs as well, so itโ€™s less about anything confidential and more about a group of stakeholders we can get feedback from. Of course there are sometimes administrative aspects (approve us raising our recycling limits for a fund) but more often than not Satya and I are seeking feedback on questions weโ€™re facing about how we want to manage the firm, tradeoffs between short and long-term thinking, and such.”

โ€” Hunter Walk, Homebrew

“For us, when we constructed our LPAC, the questions we asked ourselves were:

  • Who do we think would be valuable in helping us balance short term decisions with long term thinking?
  • Who do we think will give us honest feedback and engage in honest conversations?
  • And who do we know has complementary DNA?”

โ€” Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

Find LPAC members who come from diverse experiences.

“I use it as a mini-board. I wonโ€™t go to it for big decisions, but I like the idea of surrounding myself with people who have different experiences than me, who have dissent, and make me a better investor.”

โ€” Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

Build an LPAC of different LP personas.

“If you have a great LPAC, theyโ€™re almost like a board of directors. You have some kind of cadence to get advice. If I did have one, I would like to do it with a group that represents my LP base โ€“ a few family offices, individuals, and people who could give really good advice.

“For first-time funds, you donโ€™t want it to be any more than three to four people. And four to six for more established funds.”

โ€” Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“My advice to other VCs in building their LPAC would be to remember itโ€™s about institutions, not individuals – your LPs representative might change over the course of the years. And, if applicable, to make sure you have a mix of LP types – for example, if your fund LPs are a mix of evergreen investment offices (such as most endowments) and folks who think of returns on a different cycle (fund of funds), include both.”

โ€” Hunter Walk, Homebrew

The tech stack of engaging LPs

While I didn’t ask everyone this question, thought I’d share what notes I did have on some firms’ tech stack for engaging their LPs and managing their investor relations.

Wischoff Ventures โ€” Airtable, Figma

“A spreadsheet/Airtable โ€” I have everyone’s emails and copy-paste when I’m ready to send a quarterly update. I only talk to most once per quarter and it’s for my update. I built that in Figma (wouldn’t recommend it).”

Oceans Ventures โ€” Affinity

“We use Affinity to manage our LP CRM. Our existing LPs get quarterly reports. And we try to write an LP update at least two times a year but will also often put out memos especially during key market moments. Also, since day one, we have a newsletter that keeps people up to date. It goes out every two to three weeks. And we have a personality. We’ve had other VCs tell us how excited they are to read it and we have LPs tell us they love our newsletter. We try to over-communicate and keep them heavily engaged.”

The 81 Collection โ€” Streak, Airtable, Hubspot, Excel/Google Sheets

“We use Airtable, Hubspot, Excel and Google spreadsheets, but Streak is our main thing.”

Behind Genius Ventures โ€” Cloze, Airtable, Google Drive, Webflow, Zapier, 1Password, Calendly, Twitter, Descript, Riverside

“We’re pretty software-heavy โ€” something I picked up from my time at WorkOS. We use:

  • Cloze โ€” as our CRM, where we track what cities folks are in in, who’s in the pipeline and more
  • Airtable โ€” for portfolio management
  • Google Drive
  • Webflow โ€” for our website
  • Zapier โ€” but there’s only so much you can automate
  • 1Password โ€” we’re pretty big on security
  • Calendly โ€” but we’ve gone back and forth on that. I’m trying to spend more time with people who’ve invested in our fund, as well as the founders we invested in.
  • Twitter
  • Descript โ€” for podcast transcriptions
  • Riverside โ€” to record podcast episodes”

1947 Rise โ€” Email, AngelList

“Regular LP updates, as well as my newsletter, have been my biggest engagement tool with LPs. I send the former out once a quarter, and the latter every few weeks. Luckily, I can also see all my LPs on my AngelList dashboard.”

Better Tomorrow Ventures โ€” Carta, Affinity, Mailchimp, Aumni, Anduin

“We used Carta, Affinity, Mailchimp, Aumni for analytics, and Anduin to bring LPs in.  Fundraising is a bunch of chasing people down. Anduinโ€™s a workflow tool. You can send people stuff and have people sign them all in one tool. Actually, several LPs told us that Anduin was the smoothest onboarding experience theyโ€™d ever had.”

“Mr. Huxley’s” Firm โ€” Airtable, Notion, Whatsapp, Quickbooks, Google Drive

In closing

As I was writing this blogpost, a big part of me wanted a nice, easy linear narrative around LP construction. But I knew there wasn’t. In the many conversations that led to the above writing, it became quite evident there was no undisputed best way โ€” no cure-all โ€” to build an LP base.

Some believed in aiming high and never becoming oversubscribed. Others generated demand for their subsequent fund or was able to be judicious with their LPs by being oversubscribed.

Some built momentum by securing an anchor LP. Others started from individuals they knew the best.

Some didn’t budge on minimum check size. Others were flexible.

The list goes on and on. While there is no right answer, in knowing all of the above possibilities and strategies, I, and everyone who helped me make this blogpost a reality, hope you are armed with the knowledge to make the most informed decision for your fund. And to that, cheers!

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Once again, and I cannot say this enough, a big, big thank you to Sarah Smith, Nichole Wischoff, Shiva Singh Sangwan, Vijen Patel, Eric Bahn, Paige Finn Doherty, Sheel Mohnot, Hunter Walk, Arjun Dev Arora, Steven Rosenblatt, and “Mr. Huxley” for our continuous back-and-forth’s, edits and of course, your insights.


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