Request for LPs (2025)

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A capital allocator is someone who balances the humility that they are not the world’s best at something (or might never be) with the deep belief in the long-term potential of an asset class (even if that means they will play a less active role in the future of that asset class).

As always, the last holiday period was a time for introspection and reflection. Many of the conversations I had were around request for startups (RFS) with VCs and request for funds (RFF) with LPs. Many of the latter focused on spaces and problems that individuals and family offices personally care a lot about.

In the essence of putting my vote for all the below, I’m going to phrase them as questions and pontifications rather than statements. Since I don’t have the capital to invest in such organizations, but also it is highly likely that these organizations need no external sources of capital. In fact, a number of the family offices I’ve conversed with have enough capital where they no longer use external bank providers for lending, but borrow and invest only within the families.

Is there a world where the LP is the sourcing engine for the GPs in their portfolio?

Like Deep Checks, but catalyzed by a single institution with large brand appeal. The problem is two-fold:

  1. Most LPs are not good at identifying great deals at the pre-seed and seed stage.
  2. Many LPs love co-investment opportunities. They’ve historically invested in brand-name funds expecting such opportunities, but largely evidenced in the 2020 to early 2022 hype cycle, most got no calls from their VCs at all. So, they’ve moved towards emerging managers who don’t have reserves to cash in on their top deal flow.

If an LP is willing to be a sourcing engine which complements their portfolio funds’ deal flow, that LP will have a chance to build (a) conviction earlier, and (b) build relationships with founders earlier. And in the sourcing/picking/winning framework, outsource the picking element to people who have more refined tastes built upon years of being boots on the ground.

Of course, said LP cannot enforce that GP invests in a certain type of company in which its sourcing engine brings in. That’ll defeat the purpose of investing in GPs in the first place, as well as diversifying risk.

Is there a world where a deeply networked LP leverages their network to support the underlying startup portfolio?

There are a number of fund-of-funds in the world who offer their geographical connections to help a portfolio fund’s startup grow in their respective market, but I’ve seen comparatively few, if any, LPs who offer their deep networks as advisors/mentors to portfolio founders.

For the most part, a VC is likely to better connected to tech talent, executives and founders. But quite a few family offices and endowments have their own deeply entrenched networks. Endowments have alumni networks. Family offices, depending on their source of wealth, are well-connected in the industry that created their wealth. Luxury brands. Oil and gas, as well as renewable energy. Infrastructure. CPG. Pharmaceutical drugs. Transportation. And the list goes on.

In other words, the LP would help a VC win deals based on their expansive combined networks. And sometimes the best advice a founder can get is not from another founder or VC, but someone tangential to the ecosystem who has seen the world from a birds eye view.

I’ve written before that there are three kinds of mentors: peer, tactical, and strategic. And you need all three.

  1. Peer: Someone with similar level of experience as you do
  2. Tactical: Someone who’s 2-5 years out and who can check your blind side
  3. Strategic: Someone who’s attained success in a particular field and is often 10+ years out from where you are. They offer the macro and big-picture perspective, and help you define long-term goals.

Founders often have their peers already. And if not that, there are a number of communities, forums, and groups out there where founders can exchange notes with each other. Many VCs often bring their founders together to co-mingle as well in annual or quarterly get-togethers.

VCs themselves often act as tactical mentors, and given how their portfolios grow also have access to a plethora of tactical mentors for any given company.

LPs with their large networks of people who run multi-billion dollar enterprises (often not tech), many of whom achieved financial success independently, have access to people who could be strategic mentors for founders in their fund-of-fund’s underlying portfolio.

This isn’t a particularly traditional fund model or fund-of-funds model, but nevertheless would be an interesting product for asset owners. Namely large institutions who are looking for product diversification and who have little to no short-term and medium-term liquidity needs. Large single family offices, pensions, and potentially some endowments and foundations.

Is there a smaller product that focuses on vintage diversification from both an entry and exit perspective?

Most investors focus on entry vintage diversification, not as much for exits. Some LPs do, to make sure they have liquidity in every vintage. While I’ve seen only a small, small number of funds and fund-of-funds do this, I wonder if this is something that is more interesting to a broader customer base of LPs.

Of those I’ve seen so far:

  • Crypto funds that hold both token-based assets and equity-based assets. The token-based ones are expected to deliver DPI within years 4-8. The equity-based assets are expected to deliver DPI within years 8-12.
  • Funds-of-funds that hold multiple asset classes within a single LP entity. Secondaries for 3-6-year time horizons. Buyouts for 5-8-year time horizons. And venture capital for 8-12 year time horizons. Some also hold venture debt assets and cryptocurrency themselves.
  • Large multi-stage billion-dollar plus VC funds that have a suite of product offerings for LPs.

There are many emerging LPs and LPs who see VC as an access class who can’t write massive checks, but need to hedge their bets when writing into a speculative asset class.

While I’m still working to collect more data on this, I do wonder. In modern history, market cycles happen every 8-12 years. Venture funds exist on 10-12 year time horizons. Theoretically, that means if you’re investing in the least expensive entry windows, you’re also existing in the lowest revenue multiple windows. And if you’re investing in the most expensive vintages, you’re also existing in the great markets. Which effectively means, the delta between “buying low” and “selling high” are roughly the same no matter which markets your entry point is.

The data seems to suggest that so far, but the publicly available datasets (i.e. Pitchbook) have heavy survivorship bias. There’s no incentive for funds that fizzle out midway or near the end to report their metrics. Carta is really interesting, but their datasets aren’t robust till after 2017.

As an allocator, it just means you just need to be in every vintage. It makes me wonder if it really matters to be investing in down or up markets. Probably not. As the sages who have invested through multiple cycles tell me. Though I wonder if underwriting venture funds to 15 years changes anything on the DPI front across multiple vintages.

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Talent Networks are your Greatest Asset | Adam Marchick | Superclusters | S4E9

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“When investing in funds, you are investing in a blind pool of human potential.” – Adam Marchick

Over the past twenty years, Adam Marchick has had unique experiences as a founder, general partner (GP), and limited partner (LP). Most recently, Adam managed the venture capital portfolio at Emory’s endowment, a $2 billion portfolio within the $10 billion endowment. Prior to Emory, Adam spent ten years building two companies, the most recent being Alpine.AI, which was acquired by Headspace. Simultaneously, Adam was a Sequoia Scout and built an angel portfolio of over 25 companies. Adam was a direct investor at Menlo Ventures and Bain Capital Ventures, sourcing and supporting companies including Carbonite (IPO), Rent The Runway (IPO), Rapid7 (IPO), Archer (M&A), and AeroScout (M&A). He started his career in engineering and product roles at Facebook, Oracle, and startups.

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[00:00] Intro
[03:14] Who is Kathy Ku?
[06:20] Lesson from Sheryl Sandberg
[06:39] Lesson from Justin Osofsky
[07:46] How Facebook became the proving grounds for Adam
[09:26] The cultural pillars of great organizations
[10:40] When to push forward and when to slow down
[12:39] Adam’s first investment: Dell
[14:20] What did Adam do on Day 1 when he first became an LP
[17:00] Emory’s co-investment criteria
[20:02] Private equity co-invests vs venture co-invests
[21:15] Teaser into Akkadian’s strategy
[23:03] Underwriting blind pools of human potential
[29:03] Why does Adam look at 10 antiportfolio companies when doing diligence?
[32:11] What excites and scares Adam about VC
[35:36] Engineering serendipity
[37:52] Where is voice technology going?
[39:45] How does Adam think about maintaining relationships?
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“Be really transparent, and even document and share your co-investment criteria.” – Mike Dauber, Sunil Dhaliwal’s advice to Adam Marchick

“For an endowment doing co-invests, you should never squint.” – Adam Marchick

“When investing in funds, you are investing in a blind pool of human potential.” – Adam Marchick


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Stress and Ambition

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“The thing about working with self-motivated people and driven people, on their worst day, they are pushing themselves very hard and your job is to reduce the stress in that conversation.”

It’s something Nakul Mandan from Audacious said in a Superclusters episode earlier in Season 4. And a line that’s been gnawing at me for the past few weeks. Particularly, “your job is to reduce the stress in that conversation.” So it got me thinking… Are the entrepreneurs I back stressed (enough)?

I know what you’re thinking. But before you come at me with pitchforks and torches, here me out. If you get to the end of this essay and still feel as strongly, feel free to take a swing at me.

First off, let me define some terms in the above question. An “entrepreneur” is someone who starts something that doesn’t exist in the world already. To me, that is a startup founder, a local restaurant, an emerging fund manager, and so on. I use this term pretty liberally. “Enough” is in moderation. A balance of feeling the pressure and urgency, but not enough to make one go insane. By definition, entrepreneurs — people who dare challenge the world and create something that hasn’t existed before — are ambitious. And ambitious, action-oriented doers are, to Nakul’s point, often hard on themselves. So everything in moderation. As a friend once told me, if you’re doing anything ambitious, a third of your days will be epic. A third will be okay. And a third will absolutely suck. As long as your days feel like that proportionally, you’re on the right track.

So… are the entrepreneurs I back stressed (enough)?

Let’s start with no. Are they the underdog still, pre-product-market fit, stagnating, losing market share, and/or in a crisis?

If not, carry on. It’s okay to not be stressed all the time. In fact, it’s probably not helpful to be stressed all the time.

If so — that they are the underdogs, stagnating or in a crisis — AND they’re not feeling stressed, I do wonder from time to time. And I’d be lying if some part of me didn’t feel buyer’s remorse. Because that means one of three things:

  1. They’ve lost their ability to care. About the product. The market. The team. Or simply, their own ambition. That’s the worst.
  2. Conversely, they don’t feel comfortable enough to be vulnerable with me. And that, in part, not to sugarcoat things, is because of me.
  3. They never cared enough or were ambitious enough in the first place. And that’s something I have to take back to the drawing board so that I learn the next time around.

Nevertheless, regardless of which of the three, it warrants a conversation. A difficult one. One where I try to understand their current motivations, what’s changed. If their motivations still hold true, then I, in Danny Meyer’s words, add “constant, gentle pressure.” For those curious, Chapter 9 of his book. Nevertheless, my job is to give them the activation energy to hopefully get them back on track.

If things change, great. I eventually go back to the first question. Are the entrepreneurs stressed? If not, then I let them on a few things:

  1. I’ll spend less time time with them to prioritize the rest of my portfolio.
  2. If they have any of the money left, they can keep the money. FYI, if it wasn’t my personal angel money, but someone else’s capital (of which I’m a fiduciary), depending on how much they have left, it may lead to a different conclusion. But in general, I view it as a write-off.
  3. Wish them the best of luck in their next chapter.
  4. If they feel the fire burning again (for good reason), they should let me know. And I’m happy to have another conversation.

Now… what happens if the entrepreneurs are stressed. Then I try to figure out if it’s anxiety or stress. Let me define.

Anxiety is caused by things you cannot control. For instance, the market. Other people you cannot control. Or black swan events. Stress, on the other hand, is caused by things you can control. Your own mistakes. Mistakes made by people you hired. Volume of work that needs to be done. Procrastination. Mistakes that can be actively mitigated. For instance, missing the deadline for a quarterly report. Missing payroll due to insufficient funds. Layoffs. Bad performance. Media, publicity, and perception. Something Danny Meyer calls, “writing a great last chapter.” As Danny Meyer puts it, “the worst mistake is not to figure out some way to end up in a better place after having made a mistake.”

If it’s anxiety, my role is to calm the founders. Be the mental support they need. Help them see the bigger picture. Build contingency plans.

If it’s stress, my role is to help them build an action plan. Help get key decision-makers and doers in the same room. Get the founders in front of advisors who can help them think through key considerations and check their blind side (assuming it’s not me. Most of the time it isn’t.). Of course, you need to timebox “thinking” time. There’s a great saying. “There are no right choices; only choices we make right.”

And finally, help the entrepreneurs execute the plan. Sometimes, that requires getting my hands dirty. And that’s what I’m here for. To increase the metabolism of the organization. Or at the very minimum, leadership. Stress is often caused by indigestion of tasks that need to be done.

Alas, the job of an investor, given we’re not in the driver’s seat, that we don’t always have complete information, is to reduce the stress of the founder when we have that conversation. More often than not, ambitious founders are hard enough on themselves.

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The Dao of Investing in VC Funds | Jay Rongjie Wang | Superclusters | S4E8

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“The first layer is setting up your own strategy. The second layer is portfolio construction. How do you do your portfolio construction based on the strategy you set out to do? And then manager selection comes last. Within the portfolio construction target, how do you pick managers that fit that ‘mandate?’” – Jay Rongjie Wang

Jay Rongjie Wang is the founding Chief Investment Officer of Primitiva Global, where she runs a family-backed Multi-asset Strategy. She also works extensively with emerging VC managers, and sits on the Selection Committee of Bridge Funding Global.

Jay’s background uniquely combines software engineering (at the world’s largest fintech platform) and institutional investing (at top funds including Fidelity and Sequoia), as well as general management (3x executive in tech startups). Jay has lived in 5 different countries across 9 major cities, giving her a global perspective.

Jay obtained her B.A and M.Sci in Physics from Cambridge University and M.B.A from INSEAD. In 2023 she was listed as an Entrepreneurial Pioneer Under 35 by Hurun Wealth.

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[00:00] Intro
[04:12] Life atop a Daoist mountain
[10:27] Qigong and tai chi
[12:21] What is dao?
[19:18] The weapon that Jay specializes in
[21:08] Why did Jay leave the Daoist temple?
[24:24] The motivations behind Jay’s career shifts
[30:05] The difference between underwriting a VC fund and a fund-of-funds
[33:08] How does Jay get to know a fund manager?
[36:31] The 3-layer process for building an allocation strategy
[38:01] Picking the initial asset class
[45:29] How much Jay allocates to venture
[48:43] What does “reasonably diversified” mean?
[49:15] Figuring out the portfolio construction model
[54:59] At what point do you stop maximizing for portfolio returns?
[56:57] How Jay calculates a 200X target return on direct investments
[57:53] Data on returns as a function of portfolio size
[1:01:42] The biggest challenge once you’ve picked your strategy
[1:04:40] Selecting the right fund managers
[1:14:17] The difference between guqin and piano
[1:18:42] Intuition versus discipline
[1:24:08] Post-credit scene
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“If you have the deal flow and you have the energy and have the skills to construct your own portfolio, then funds-of-funds obviously are more complimentary than necessary.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“The first layer is setting up your own strategy. The second layer is portfolio construction. How do you do your portfolio construction based on the strategy you set out to do? And then manager selection comes last. Within the portfolio construction target, how do you pick managers that fit that ‘mandate?’” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“The later the stage you go, […] capital becomes more anonymous, and […] the more you converge to public market returns.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“I only put the regenerative part of a wealth pool into venture. […] That number – how much money you are putting into venture capital per year largely dictates which game you’re playing.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“Your average median of a fund-of-funds is higher than a venture capital fund, and the variance, the standard deviation, is lower. So it is possible for a VC fund to have 40%, 50%, or higher IRR. It’s much, much less likely for a fund-of-funds to achieve that, but also the likelihood of losing money is much, much lower for a fund-of-funds.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“The reason why we diversify is to improve return per unit of risk taken.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“Bear in mind, every fund that you add to your portfolio, you’re reducing your upside as well. And that is something a lot of people don’t keep in mind.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“Once you have a strategy, the hardest thing for me is to stick to that strategy because you just meet those amazing managers, amazing funds all the time.” – Jay Rongjie Wang


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VC as an Asset vs Access Class

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There are LPs who see VC as an asset class. And there are those who see it as an access class. Most GPs spend time with the former. Most emerging GPs try to spend time with the latter, just ’cause the former are out of their reach for multiple reasons. Chief of which is probably that the “asset-class” LPs typically write large checks, have small teams, and have little to no appetite for the risk in this asset class. Also given how much the industry is a black box, it’s hard to underwrite anything that puts their career at risk.

But most emerging GPs I talk to actually fail the latter, the “access-class” LPs, more often than not. Much of which is in understanding how to approach them.

In the world of business, there are customers and there are buyers. Someone who makes a one-time purchase, and rarely again is a buyer. It could be due lack of demand. Lack of availability. Or simply, they were bamboozled. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Most emerging LPs, whether individuals or family offices or even corporate venture arms, buy a product once. And unfortunately, what they were sold and what they bought ended up being two different things.

Relationships, in any industry, take time to nurture. It takes time to win trust. Those who trust easily can take trust away easily. Yet, most GPs talk to LPs for the first time when they start fundraising. With a fire under them. And a sense of urgency as the clock is ticking. And by function of that, attempt to force these LPs who see VC as an access class to make a transactional decision.

To help visualize the difference, this is how I typically like to frame it:

LPs who see VC as an…Asset classAccess class
When pitching them, it’s similar to which business functionMarketing
(Brand and outliers matter)
Sales
Turnover rate in portfolioLowHigh
Involvement“Lean back”
(Big picture)
“Lean in”
(In the trenches)
StrategyStrategy not to lose
(Play to stay rich)
Strategy to win
(Play to get rich)
Depth vs BreadthBreadth > DepthDepth > Breadth
Capital flows in the near futureSteady state
(VC exists and will keep our allocation at a steady state / set percentage annually. Any additional significant DPI generated here is re-allocated to other assets.)
Capital increase
(VC is interesting and likely to increase allocation to it in the impending future.)

For access-driven LPs, they typically transition to asset-driven after about 4 years. Subsequently churning from their “access” category, as they now have enough relationships and “experience” building a strategy around venture capital. Access-driven LPs typically churn through their portfolio quite frequently, with generational shifts and new regimes and interests.

Moreover, with access-driven LPs, the pitching process is often collaborative and there’s room for terms negotiation. More often than not, they have curiosities they’d like to satiate. Asset-driven LPs have you pitch them. When challenged, they are more defensive than they are curious.

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The 4 P’s to Evaluate GPs | Charlotte Zhang | Superclusters | S4E6

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“Executional excellence can get you to being great at something – let’s call that top quartile – but it really is passion that distinguishes the best from great – top decile.” – Charlotte Zhang

As the director of investments, Charlotte Zhang oversees the selection of external investment managers at Inatai Foundation, conducts portfolio research, and helps to institutionalize processes, tools, and resources. Experienced in impact investing, she previously served as a senior associate at ICONIQ Capital and, before that, Medley Partners. Investing on behalf of foundations affiliated with family offices, her investments supported a variety of nonprofit work, from early childhood education to autism research. Charlotte was a founding partner of Seed Consulting Group, a California-based nonprofit that provides pro bono strategy consulting to environmental and public health organizations, and currently serves on the Women’s Association of Venture and Equity’s west coast steering committee and as a Project Pinklight panelist for Private Equity Women Investor Network. She is also on the advisory boards of MoDa Partners, a family office whose mission is to advance the economic and educational equity of women and girls, and 8090 Partners, a multifamily office consisting of families and entrepreneurs across diverse industries that is currently deploying an impact investment fund.

Charlotte earned a BS with honors in business administration from the University of California, Berkley. When not working, you can find her globetrotting (18 countries and counting), writing a Yelp review about the best bite in town, or cuddling up with a book and her two adorable cats.

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[02:56] Charlotte’s humble beginnings
[07:02] Lessons as a pianist
[10:23] Lessons from swimming that piano didn’t teach
[14:52] How Charlotte became an LP
[17:44] Where are emerging managers looking for deal flow these days?
[21:23] Reasons as to why Inatai may pass on a fund
[24:35] The 4 P’s to Evaluate GPs
[29:26] How small is too small of a track record?
[34:42] How do you build a multi-billion dollar portfolio from scratch
[39:43] The minimum viable back office for an LP
[42:03] Underrated Bay Area restaurants
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“If you have enough capital chasing after an opportunity, alpha is just going to be degraded.” – Charlotte Zhang


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The Holiday Special | Nakul Mandan and Ben Choi | Superclusters | S4PSE1

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“VC is more about the ground game than the air game.” – Nakul Mandan

“Entrepreneurs think it’s going to be like the Michael Keaton version, and the good ones, they actually have to work through the Christopher Nolan version of Batman.” – Ben Choi

Nakul Mandan is the founder of Audacious Ventures. Audacious is a seed stage venture firm managing ~$250M. Audacious’ foundational belief is that ultimately startup success comes down to two key ingredients: Large markets and A+ teams. Accordingly, the Audacious team focuses on two jobs: 1/ Invest in force of nature founders; 2/ Help them recruit an A+ team. Then they get out of the way. Prior to founding Audacious, Nakul was a GP at Lightspeed.

Some of the companies Nakul has backed over the last decade include: Gainsight, People.ai, WorkOS, Multiverse, Marketo, 6Sense, BuildingConnected, Vartana, Tezi and Maxima, amongst others.

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Ben Choi manages over $3B investments with many of the world’s premier venture capital firms as well as directly in early stage startups. He brings to Next Legacy a distinguished track record spanning over two decades founding and investing in early-stage technology businesses. Ben’s love for technology products formed the basis for his successful venture track record, including early stage investments in Marketo (acquired for $4.75B) and CourseHero (last valued at $3.6B). He previously ran product for Adobe’s Creative Cloud offerings and founded CoffeeTable, where he raised venture capital financing, built a team, and ultimately sold the company.

Ben is an engaged member of the Society of Kauffman Fellows and has been named to the Board of Directors for the San Francisco Chinese Culture Center and Children’s Health Council. Ben studied Computer Science at Harvard University before Mark Zuckerberg made it cool and received his MBA from Columbia Business School. Born in Peoria, raised in San Francisco, and educated in Cambridge, Ben now lives in Palo Alto with his wife, Lydia, and three very active sons.

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[00:00] Intro
[04:14] Why is Nakul fascinated by Batman?
[06:41] Does entrepreneurial motivation often come from inspiration or frustration?
[10:33] Nakul’s childhood and early upbringing
[14:37] How Nakul grew from introvert to extrovert
[16:19] Did Ben see the ambition in Nakul from the day they first met?
[18:19] How did Ben’s parents’ work in Chinatown influence Ben as a teenager?
[22:47] How did Ben and Nakul meet?
[28:50] Would Nakul have raised in 2020 if he knew how hard it would be?
[33:49] Why did Next Legacy not invest in Fund I, but in Fund II?
[37:49] How did Nakul react to the pass on Fund I?
[39:56] The kinds of people at Next Legacy’s dinners
[43:49] Why Audacious kept a low profile in 2021
[49:01] Why Audacious deployed Fund I over 4 years, instead of 3
[51:46] Balancing the paradox of one of Audacious’ cultural values
[55:14] The difference between pitching individuals and institutions
[1:00:42] What is it like to be married to an interior designer?
[1:02:40] Nakul’s favorite coffee shop, bar, and restaurant
[1:05:56] What makes a sock special to Ben?
[1:07:17] Why does Ben still like venture?
[1:08:10] Why does Nakul still like venture?
[1:11:36] Thank you to Alchemist Accelerator for sponsoring!
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“The risk is slow failure. And actually that’s the worst kind of failure even for entrepreneurs that we back. They’re all talented people. Some ideas work; some don’t. It’s when they end up spending seven, eight years and then it doesn’t work. Then it takes out seven, eight years of their life.” – Nakul Mandan

“Entrepreneurs think it’s going to be like the Michael Keaton version, and the good ones, they actually have to work through the Christopher Nolan version of Batman.” – Ben Choi

“If you don’t wear ambition on your sleeve, how do people know you’re ambitious?” – Nakul Mandan

“VC is more about the ground game than the air game.” – Nakul Mandan

“Always remember there’s a human on the other side of every conversation.” – Nakul Mandan

“The thing about working with self-motivated people and driven people, on their worst day, they are pushing themselves very hard and your job is to reduce the stress in that conversation.” – Nakul Mandan

“If you have an understated personality, wear something really bright.” – Ben Choi


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The Year 1-3 AGM “Playbook”

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A good friend, who’s hosting an annual general meeting (AGM) for his LPs in his first year of the fund, pinged me the other day asking if he should include the IRR metrics in his presentation day of. For context, it was negative because well, that’s how the math works. It’s almost always negative for any venture fund you invest in, in years 1-3. As you’re investing more money, the portfolio has yet to get marked up and raise a new round. So alas, negative rate of return.

Given that he had a lot of first-time LPs in his fund, he wasn’t sure if they would understand the context of the IRR metric if he just put it on a slide. So he was biased with not including it. To which I responded with… of course you should. For the bread and butter of being a fiduciary of capital, you should always bias towards transparency and honesty. But you should educate them every year in your first three years of the fund on what each number means and what is industry standard. Moreover, the biggest thing you’ll be measured against in the first three years of any fund is the discipline you exhibit. Did you do what you said you were going to do?

Then it brought on a larger question. What should GPs include in their AGMs in the first three years?

So I thought I’d write a blogpost about it.

This won’t be a two-hour documentary, nor a 300-page novel. But rather, just the governing principles of how I think about running annual summits for your LPs. So, as a general compass for the rest of this post:

  1. The basics to share
  2. Content at large and what to expect for the duration of the programming
  3. Gifts

First things first, the basics. What are the metrics to share?

  1. MOIC and/or TVPI
    • I prefer both gross and net, but most really just share net
  2. IRR
  3. # of investments (total)
  4. Capital called
  5. Capital deployed
  6. # of investments per pillar/vertical in your thesis (if relevant)
  7. # of investments broken down by stage (if relevant)
  8. Average check size
  9. Average entry ownership
  10. Average entry valuation
  11. Notable wins / progress in portfolio companies, and why it matters
  12. Asks for LPs
  13. Where is the market today?
  14. Where is it going? Notable trends

The first 10 are required as a fiduciary of capital. The last 4 means you’re playing professor for a bit. LPs invest in you for your opinion, for your perspective. Also it’s important to note, if more than 20% of your LPs are first-time LPs, you may want to lean more on being a professor of sorts to set expectations. And how to interpret your data. And yes, it’s worth being honest here. In good and bad times.

Do note that in the first 2-3 years, your IRRs will suck. TVPI will be roughly 1X. DPI is either negligible or non-existent. These are all things that are worth highlighting to first-time LPs in the venture space. Focus on why discipline matters more than performance in the first 3-4 years. Did you do what you said you would do?

Also, it is quite normal to invite both your current fund LPs, as well as the LPs you would like to have one to two funds from now. Although if you’re inviting the latter, do be cognizant on sharing sensitive data about your portfolio. Regardless, the AGM is an opportunity to deepen any relationships — current and future.

And, just like a Dreamforce or TwitchCon or WWDC, it’s a chance to reinvigorate your audience about why they should care about you.

I’m not the first to say it, nor is it the first time I’m writing about it. For instance, here and here. But GPs are evaluated on primarily three things: sourcing, picking, winning. There are more yes. GP-thesis fit. Differentiation. Portfolio construction. Ability to build an enduring firm. Selling and exiting positions. And so on. But if VCs can boil everything down to team, market, and product, this is the LP equivalent.

And well, the truth is you’re always being evaluated. Even after the fundraising sprint. As in another 2-3 years, you’re going to ask the same LPs to re-up their capital, just like a founder to a multi-stage VC would.

All that to say, in the AGM, you should find ways to highlight each through the content you present. To share some examples:

  • How you source
    • Have your companies share how you first met. The crazier the story, the better.
    • If you have a community/newsletter/podcast, bring in a really high quality advisor or speaker from there.
    • If you champion yourself on outbound sourcing, find an impressive speaker that you cold emailed.
  • How you pick
    • Showcase 1-2 companies with strong growth
    • If you had a track record prior to the firm with an obvious win (i.e. you were a seed investor in Airbnb), bring the founder in to speak.
    • Share market insight that no one else knows. What is your prepared mind?
    • Request for startups.
  • How you win
    • Showcase a skillset that you have through someone else. That someone else can be a former colleague, a name-brand co-investor, or founder. Have them talk about you and that skillset. Stories are always better than facts.
    • Showcase 1 hot company in your portfolio that everyone wanted to get access to but only very few got in. Have that founder share why they picked you.

Of course, you don’t have to be explicit with the above, but nevertheless, a useful framework for planning content.

Also please don’t have your entire portfolio present. Nor any more than 4-5 companies. Two is ideal. Ideally, you want a diverse cast of speakers. And I mean, diverse by job title.

I’m always biased towards gifts. It is one of my primary love languages, but also in any event I host or help host, I think a lot about surprise and suspense.

Surprise is relaying information to someone where they do not expect it. Suspense is relaying information where they expect it, but don’t know how or when it’ll drop. Surprise is what gets people talking about your event after. Suspense is what brings people to the event.

The earlier section on content is suspense. Gifts are usually surprises at AGMs.

In terms of what kinds of gifts to give, the most important guiding principle here is to be thoughtful. As Zig Ziglar / Mark Suster once said, ” People don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.”

It’s less about the gift you give; it’s more important about how you deliver it.

Some examples of thoughtful ones I’ve seen at AGMs in the past:

  1. A GP’s favorite book they read that year
  2. A signed copy by the author of a deeply meaningful book that shaped the way the GP thinks today
  3. A letter at each LP’s seat of the first interaction between the GP and each of the LPs.

AGMs are the one of the few times in a year, hell, in fund cycle, to remind LPs of why they love you. Are they thinking about you when they put together the following year’s budget and allocation schedule?

And yes, you do need to remind LPs on why they love you. Just like, even if you’re in a happy marriage, every so often, you need a date night. Keep the kids at home. Get a babysitter. And do something wild with your spouse.

Pat Grady has this great line. “If your value prop is unique, you should be a price setter not a price taker, meaning your gross margins should be really good.” In a similar way, you want to be a schedule maker, not a schedule taker. And to do so, you need to get people excited. And well, you need to be unique. You need people to look forward to your AGM, and not see it as a chore. Since, let’s be honest; if I’ve been to two dozen or so AGMs, not as an LP in most of them, then a seasoned LP is definitely invited to many more.

Earlier this year, I flew over to San Diego for an AGM. I found out two other friends were also flying in to SD for an AGM that same Thursday. The three of us agreed to catch up during the happy hour, assuming all of us were going to the same one. Turns out, we each went to a different AGM. Same day, same time. All within a 10-minute Uber ride from each other. Spoiler, we later escaped our respective events during the happy hours to catch up elsewhere.

Along the same wavelength, in October this year, I was moderating a talk in a building, where there were two other AGMs happening in the same building at the same time. And three others within a five-block radius in SF… at the same time. Those were only the ones I knew of. That said, it was SF Tech Week.

Simply, you’re fighting for attention. And everything above is just table stakes. It’s the bare minimum. But what sets the great ones apart from the forgettable ones is a reminder of what makes that GP or set of GPs special. Their own flavor. Their own touch. And it’s a combination of thoughtfulness and personality. And if you have those, the small bumps in the road don’t matter.

Hope the above helps.

P.S. Why am I sharing this?

  1. I don’t think knowledge is ever perennially proprietary. Today it may be, tomorrow it will not.
  2. If you’re a GP reading this, this is pretty much exactly what I share with all the funds I’ve worked with to help plan their annual summits for LPs. So, you won’t have to hire me anymore to help you with your annual summits. I don’t care about making a living helping other people plan and organize AGMs. But I would like to go to higher quality events in general. 🙂
  3. A rising tide raises all ships.

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LPs Should Get Paid More | Ashby Monk | Superclusters | S4E5

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“Innovation everywhere, but especially in the land of pensions, endowments, and foundations, is a function of courage and crisis.” – Ashby Monk

Dr. Ashby Monk is currently a Senior Research Engineer, School of Engineering at Stanford University and holds the position of Executive Director of the Stanford Research Initiative on Long-Term Investing.

Ashby has more than 20 years of experience studying and advising investment organizations. He has authored multiple books and published 100s of research papers on institutional investing. His latest book, The Technologized Investor, won the 2021 Silver Medal from the Axiom Business Book Awards in the Business Technology category.

Outside of academia, Ashby has co-founded several companies that help investors make better investment decisions, including Real Capital Innovation (acquired by Addepar), FutureProof, GrowthsphereAI, Long Game Savings (acquired by Truist), NetPurpose, D.A.T.A., SheltonAI, and ThirdAct. He is co-founder and managing partner of KDX, a venture capital firm focused on investment technologies.

He is a member of the CFA Institute’s Future of Finance Advisory Council and was named by CIO Magazine as one of the most influential academics in the institutional investing world. He received his Doctorate in Economic Geography at the University of Oxford, holds a Master’s in International Economics from the Université de Paris I – Pantheon Sorbonne, and has a Bachelor’s in Economics from Princeton University.

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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[03:44] “I don’t know what to do with my hands”
[04:44] The origin story of Ashby’s LinkedIn skills
[09:04] Ashby’s obsession with the worst title out there
[12:54] Titles at institutional investment firms
[17:05] Building the right incentives for institutional LPs
[20:54] The decision to buy or build for pension funds
[22:36] What’s a smart way to think about the difference of gross and net?
[23:17] When are management fees not justified?
[26:06] When managers charge fees on SPVs
[28:12] When are GPs still grateful for your LP capital?
[29:40] Challenges with the endowment model in PE and VC
[31:14] Why LPs misrepresent what budget fees come out of
[35:28] Compensation structure of a pension fund
[37:59] CalPERS compensation structure
[39:19] The highest paid employees in government jobs
[42:39] Traits of an incredibly talented investor
[47:06] Hire hard, manage light
[51:07] Ashby’s journey into the LP space
[56:05] Why should a young professional work at a pension
[1:00:24] Who outside of investments influences the way Ashby thinks about investing?
[1:02:28] What is organic finance?
[1:07:08] The post-credit scene
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“The fastest way to become a billionaire in America today is to set up an alternative investment firm and manage pension capital. Literally. That’s the fastest path. Faster than starting a tech company.” – Ashby Monk

“Many pension plans, especially in America, put blinders on. ‘Don’t tell me what I’m paying my external managers. I really want to focus and make sure we’re not overpaying our internal people.’ And so then it becomes, you can’t ignore the external fees because the internal costs and external fees are related. If you pay great people internally, you can push back on the external fees. If you don’t pay great people internally, then you’re a price taker.” – Ashby Monk

“You need to realize that when the managers tell you that it’s only the net returns that matter. They’re really hoping you’ll just accept that as a logic that’s sound. What they’re hoping you don’t question them on is the difference between your gross return and your net return is an investment in their organization. And that is a capability that will compound in its value over time. And then they will wield that back against you and extract more fees from you, which is why the alternative investment industry in the world today is where most of the profits in the investment industry are captured and captured by GPs.” – Ashby Monk

“[LPs] want to solve the problem for their sponsor by reducing the cost of a promise.” – Ashby Monk

“Innovation everywhere, but especially in the land of pensions, endowments, and foundations, is a function of courage and crisis.” – Ashby Monk

“The highest people paid in state jobs are football coaches.” – Ashby Monk

“I often tell pensions you should pay people at the 49th percentile. So, just a bit less than average. So that the people going and working there also share the mission. They love the mission ‘cause that actually is, in my experience, the magic of the culture in these organizations that you don’t want to lose.” – Ashby Monk

“The job of an investor is to look at the same data that you and I are looking at, and be ready to make a different conclusion. That’s how you outperform.” – Ashby Monk

“Hire hard; manage light.” – Ashby Monk

“The way best practices are communicated in this industry is through role models. So, Yale model, Canadian model, Norway model… There are no schools of investing. […] And the way models emerge is you get an innovation that results in outperformance.” – Ashby Monk

“I do research projects on nothing.” – Ashby Monk on research into solutions that don’t exist in the world yet

“There are two types of innovation. There’s innovation as an invention. And there’s discovery. And a lot of what I do is discover and apply.” – Ashby Monk


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The Most Common Rejection Email for Transformative Startups

The most common VC rejection by founders who end up building the world’s most transformative companies seems to be:

The market is too small.

Other variations:

  • Unfortunately, the size of the market didn’t make sense for our investment model.
  • The price of the round felt too expensive for our strategy. (An indirect assumption that the exit-to-entry multiple would be south of a 100X. In other words, there’s a cap on market size. Aka small market.)

There are plenty of public examples of founders (i.e. Airbnb, Instacart, Uber, Facebook/Meta, Shopify, eBay, Ford, NVIDIA, etc.) sharing their rejection emails from the first couple hundred VCs they’ve met. But also, I’ve been lucky enough to read a lot of the memos that GPs and partners have written in the decades past on their anti-portfolio.

Yep, that’s the blog post for today.


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