What You Can and Cannot Control as a GP

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Not too long ago, I was catching up with the amazing Owen Willis, someone I’ve been lucky to see in action during our time at On Deck together, who now runs Opal Ventures. And there was one thing he mentioned that I cannot stop thinking about.

As a fund manager, there are things you can control. And things you cannot.

So often, many a fund manager focus on things they cannot. The market. In many ways, marks. And not enough on things, they can. Chief of which, communication. What. How. When.

Are your LPs hearing about news on you or your portfolio — good and bad — from you or from another source?

What are you seeing in the market? What is your insight into it? Why? After all, LPs pay you for your opinion.

And how frequently do you maintain an open line of communication with your LPs? Do you share everything? Or only the good? Do you miss regular updates because of how busy you get?

To nosedive a level deeper, as a GP, what are your most powerful tools of communication with LPs? Not to lead the witness, but you’ve probably figured it out. LP updates. Many GPs I meet tend to only have one type. At best one and a half.

There’s the update GPs send your existing LPs. But they also understand the value of prospective LPs, so they end up sending the exact same to prospects. Maybe with some numbers redacted (if it includes sensitive information on the portfolio). Most of the time, that’s it. But really, it’s helpful to think about existing and prospects as two different audiences. The former will naturally be disposed to support. The latter is still deciding if they want to support. They have yet to be converted.

As such, instead of one, there should be two types of LP updates. To make it simpler, one is for “customer success.” The other is for “sales and BD.”

There’s a lot of content on this front already, so I’ll spare you the extra verbiage here. But if you want a place to start, I’d recommend the below first:

But to provide a brief summary (plus, a snazzle dazzle of the Cup of Zhou perspective), typical LP updates I see have:

  1. The Abstract / TL;DR / What to know if you only had 2 minutes
  2. Performance (TVPI, DPI, IRR, new investments, % deployed, % left, % capital called, and (if so) did you preemptively mark down portcos and why)
  3. Net New Investments — 2-3 lines about each company + what’s promising + why’d you invest + website link + key highlights (you’ll need sign off from your founders for this last one)
  4. Asks — for your portfolio and for your fund
  5. Team updates — if your team changed (i.e. new hires)
  6. General portfolio updates — the good, the bad, the ugly
  7. Capital call schedules / Legal stuff if any
  8. Insights into the market (if any)

In general, you want to tell your LPs if there are any updates before they find out about them themselves. Better to hear from you than from other channels.

Lastly, I like personal flare and highlights as well. But hell, that’s up to each GP’s preference.

So, there will be some overlap of information with the earlier type of update. With some redactions, particularly the specific numbers on the portfolio side. That said, rather than what goes in it, what might be more helpful is how to think about it.

Sales, like in any other industry, requires you to know your customer.

Some general framing questions:

  1. Are they the solution to your problem or are you the solution to their problem?
    • For instance, are they actively looking to deploy? Why? What motivates them? If not, you might be pushing a rock uphill. If yes, are you actually what they’re looking for, or can you better triage them to a friend who is investing in what they’re looking for. Relationships are long.
  2. Do they see VC as an access class or an asset class?
    • Generally, not always, individuals and family offices see VC as an access class. So they care more about co-investment opportunities, deal flow for them to directly invest, and/or opportunities to learn from you. In other words, these LPs want to see what you’re investing in, who else is validating your investments, and what are you seeing and learning. If you’re a Fund I, you’re probably spending more time with these LPs.
    • Institutions, like foundations, endowments, pensions, and fund of funds, see VC as an asset class. As such, returns and performance matter a lot more. So the best ways to convince them is to let the numbers do the talking AND how close you stick with your initial strategy and if you deviate, why. Promise fulfillment, or in LP lingo, consistency of strategy, matters just as much as returns, if not more, once return profiles measure up to 3-5X across several years. Or when and how quickly DPI hits 1X. If you’re a Fund II+, you’re probably spending more time prospecting these.
  3. Are you looking to institutionalize your fund? To go from a fund to a firm?
    • If so, how do you set yourself up to grow in team? How are you knocking out key risks one by one?
    • And in a loose way, not for an LP update, what happens once you get hit by a bus?
  4. What kind of cadence makes sense for you and is enough to keep you top of mind for these LPs?
    • Including events you’re hosting or when you’re visiting certain geographies are always a nice added bonus.

And lastly, getting feedback is always important. As you might suspect. So that your communication between both your existing and prospective LPs only improves over time.

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Winning Deals Based on Check Size (VCs versus LPs)

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I know I just wrote a blogpost on how LPs assess if GPs can win deals. But after a few recent conversations with LPs in fund of funds, as well as emerging LPs, I thought it would be interesting to draw the parallel of not only proxies of how GPs win deals, but also proxies of how LPs win deals. And as such, coming back with a part two. Maybe a part one and a half. You get the point.

The greatest indicator for the ability to win deals as a VC is to see what the largest check (and greatest ownership target) a world-class founder will take from you. (That said, if you are only capable of winning deals based on price, you might want to consider another career. You should have other reasons a brilliant founder will pick you.) And even better if they give you a board seat.

The greatest indicator for the ability to win deals as an LP is to see what the smallest check a world-class GP will take from you. And even better if they give you a seat on the LPAC.

In the world where capital is more or less a commodity, the more capital one can provide (with some loose constraints on maximums), the better. But if someone who has no to little trouble raising is willing to open doors in a potentially over-subscribed fund for you, that’s something special.

An LP I was chatting with recently loves asking the question, “How big of a check size would you like me to write?” And to him, the answer “As much as you can.” Or “I’ll take any number.” is a bad answer. According to him, the best GPs know exactly how much they’re expecting from LPs, and sometimes as a function of how helpful they can be, especially in a Fund I or II. But always as a function of portfolio construction. Your fund size is after all your strategy, as the Mike Maples adage goes. While I don’t know if I completely agree with this approach, I did find this approach intriguing, and at least worth a double take.

I’m forgetting the attribution here. The curse of forgetting to write things down when I hear them. But I was listening to a podcast, or maybe it was a conversation, where they used the analogy that being a VC is like watching your child on the playground. You let your child do whatever they want to. Go down the slides. Climb the monkey bars. Sit on the swings. And so on. You let them chart their own narratives. But your job as the parent is once you see your kid doing something dangerous, that’s when you step in. When they’re about to jump off a 2-story slide. Or swing upside-down. But otherwise your kid knows best on how to have fun. In the founders’ case, they know how to build an amazing product for an audience who’s dying for it.

Excluding the fact that you’re a good friend or family that go way back, you likely have something of great strategic value to that GP — be it:

  • Network to other LPs
  • Operational expertise and value to portfolio companies (to a point where you being an LP will help the GP win deals with founders)
  • Operational expertise to the GP and the investment team
  • Investment expertise to help check the GP’s blindside
  • Access to downstream capital
  • Deal flow, or
  • Simply, mentorship

At the same time, ONSET Ventures once found that “if you had a full-time mentor who was not part of the company’s management team, and who had actually run both a start-up and a larger business, the success rate increased from less than 25% to over 80%.” (You can find the case study here. As an FYI, the afore-mentioned link leads to a download of the HBS case study.)

That’s the role of the board. The LPAC. Of the advisory board. For a founder or emerging GP, the full-time availability of said board members or LPAC members is vital.

A proxy of a mentor’s availability is pre-existing relationships between founder/emerging funder and said investor or advisor. Another is simply the responsiveness of the investor or advisor. Do they take less than 12 hours to reply? Or 3-5 business days? It’s for that latter reason Sequoia’s Pat Grady once lost out on an investment deal to his life partner, Sarah Guo. Being responsive goes a long way.

In sum, for LPs in fund of fund managers, small things go a long way.

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A Case Study on Why LPs Pass on Great Funds | Jeff Rinvelt & Martin Tobias | Superclusters | S1 Post Season E1

Jeff is a partner at Renaissance Venture Capital an innovative venture capital fund of funds. Jeff’s diverse background in venture capital and technology and his experience working in various start-up ventures uniquely position him to advise startups. In addition, Jeff is quite active in the Michigan start-up community, volunteering his time to mentor young entrepreneurs, judge pitch competitions, and guest lecture student classes and organizations. Through Jeff’s work on the Fund, his volunteer efforts, and his role as the chair of the Michigan Venture Capital Association’s board of directors, his passion for fostering a productive environment for venture capital investment in the State of Michigan is evident.

You can find Jeff on his socials here:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rinvelt
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Martin Tobias is the Managing Partner and Founder of Incisive Ventures, an early-stage venture capital firm focused on investing in the first institutional round of technology companies that reduce friction at scale.

Martin was previously at Accenture and Microsoft and is a former Venture Partner at Ignition Partners. Martin is a 3X venture-funded CEO rising over $500M as CEO with two IPOs who has also invested in hundreds of companies and is a limited partner in over a dozen VC funds. Martin was an early investor in Google, Docusign, OpenSea, and over a dozen Unicorns.

Martin is the father of 3 daughters, a cyclist, surfer, poker player, and life hacker. Martin tinkers with motorcycles on the weekends. He writes about Venture Capital on Incisive Ventures blog and Twitter.

You can find Martin on his socials here:
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[00:00] Introducing Jeff Rinvelt and Martin Tobias
[04:14] What was Jeff’s pitch to their LPs for Renaissance Capital?
[06:30] Why did Jeff pivot from being a founder to an LP?
[08:10] Renaissance Capital’s portfolio construction model
[13:00] Jeff’s involvement in non-profits
[15:56] How did Martin become an angel investor?
[18:03] The big lesson from being an LP in SV Angel’s Fund I and II
[20:10] Why is Martin starting a fund now?
[26:07] A lesson on variable check sizes
[28:53] What is Martin’s value add to founders?
[33:29] What stood out about Martin’s deck and email when it arrived in Jeff’s inbox?
[35:43] The 2 biggest worries Martin had in sharing his deck with Jeff
[36:47] What does Jeff think about generalists?
[40:49] What held Jeff back from making an investment in Incisive Ventures?
[42:37] What kinds of conversations does Martin usually have with LPs?
[47:05] One of the greatest professional lessons Jeff picked up as a manager
[49:07] Martin’s greatest lesson from his days as a CEO
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“One of the things a lot of investors don’t do is go back and be honest about where they got fucking lucky and where they had a thesis that they could potentially replicate in future investments.”

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Thesis is a Lagging Indicator of Outperformance

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In the process of catching up with a number of fund managers this week, I was reminded of two things:

  1. That I still have an outstanding blogpost on intuition and discipline sitting on my desk, having gone through more revisions than I would like
  2. That Fund I’s mostly start by drawing trendlines in your previous portfolio’s winners.

Now it’s not my job to call anyone out, but many of those I caught up with this week, told me in confidence (no longer in confidence now that I’m writing about it) that their best investments were simply due to being in the right place at the right time. That they were lucky. Others invested often off-thesis to accommodate for a brilliant founder that looked and sounded like nothing they had seen before. Then retroactively, went back to LPs in a subsequent fundraise armed with the knowledge to account for their previous outlier.

Chris Paik once wrote, ““Invest in companies that can’t be described in a single sentence.”

Josh Wolfe said last year, “We believe before others understand.” And sometimes the investor themselves may not fully grasp what makes someone special other than that person is special.

Other times the company in which you initially bet on may not look like the company that earns you the most capital. As Mike Maples Jr. once said, “90% of our exit profits have come from pivots.

Of course, many LPs don’t want to hear that. They want to hear that you know exactly what you’re doing. That you can predict the future. But you can’t. In many ways, VCs invest in what stays the same. Not what changes. Human nature. Great hires. Network effects. Talent pools. Intellectual curiosity. Rigor. It’s a long list.

An amazing VC once told me. The job of a VC is to:

  1. Have a wide enough aperture so enough light can come in
  2. But have a fast enough trigger finger to catch the light, the reflections, the shadows just at the right time so that you get a good enough shot.

The rest is all done in the editing room, where you massage the photo with your expertise and experience to help it stand out.

I love that line. But simply put, the job of a VC is to:

  1. Cast a wide enough net so that you can see as many great companies as you can,
  2. Have the ability and awareness to know a great company when you see it.

After all, as an investor, you don’t have to invest in every great company, but every company you invest in must be great. Big anti-portfolios don’t mean much in this world if you can still get great returns.

All that to say, the job of an angel is to increase the surface area for luck to stick. And once enough do, a thesis blossoms.

A thesis, at the end of the day, is retroactive. And the best thing a fund manager can do is that the thesis the fund ends on is as close as possible to the initial. As LPs, it is our job to bet on the future of the thesis and the discipline of the fund manager. Both are equally as important. If things do change, a fund manager must preemptively communicate strategy drift and do so in the best interest of their investors.

It’s not ideal in many cases. For individual LPs and smaller family offices, strategy drift matters less. For large institutional LPs, it matters more. Because the latter don’t want you to be investing in the same underlying asset as other funds they’re invested into are.

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How Being Weird is a Deal Flow Superpower | Howard Lindzon | Superclusters | S1E7

Howard Lindzon has over 20 years of experience in both public and private market investing. He previously founded and managed the hedge fund Lindzon Capital, and is currently the founder and General Partner of the early-stage venture capital firm Social Leverage. Through Social Leverage, he and his partners have been seed investors in startups like Robinhood, Beehiiv, and Manscaped to name a few. Howard was the founder of Wallstrip (acquired by CBS), and is the the co-founder and Chairman of Stocktwits, the leading social platform for traders and investors. Throughout his career, Howard has strongly advocated for and helped drive the decentralization and democratization of investing. He resides in Phoenix, AZ and Coronado, California.

You can find Howard on his socials here:
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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[01:51] Howard’s biggest misses as a startup investor
[06:21] What happens when you trust a single reference too much in the diligence process?
[10:24] What kind of company does Howard think Carta should be?
[14:52] Howard’s two beliefs on selling positions
[24:29] What types of fund managers did Howard invest in as an individual LP?
[30:46] How did Howard write a $150K LP check in Multicoin
[36:06] Why Howard likes GPs who struggle to fundraise
[41:16] How Howard raised his fund of funds
[44:19] Howard’s LP investment thesis
[47:16] How much of investing is luck vs skill?
[51:57] Reframing curiosity and risk
[57:37] Market risk vs execution risk in your career
[59:18] Howard’s advice to young professionals
[1:03:40] A founder or GP’s first interactions with Social Leverage
[1:08:25] Does succession planning matter to Social Leverage?
[1:10:16] The big lesson about follow-on financing from Social Leverage’s Fund I
[1:14:49] Thank you to Alchemist Accelerator for sponsoring!
[1:17:25] Legal disclaimer

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“We’re in the business of swinging.”

“You can’t be a good investor if you haven’t been in there and go ‘Ahhh, that was a dumb idea.’”

“Sell when you can, not when you have to.”

“They gave me money because I’m weird. They gave me money because they trusted me, but they also know that I’m weird. Therefore, if I start to think like them, we’re all screwed. So I have to think like me.”

“If you’re curious, it’s pretty hard not to stand out over time.”


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How to Build a Multi-Fund VC Firm | Ben Choi | Superclusters | S1E6

Ben Choi manages over $3B investments with many of the world’s premier venture capital firms as well as directly in early stage startups. He brings to Next Legacy a distinguished track record spanning over two decades founding and investing in early-stage technology businesses. Ben’s love for technology products formed the basis for his successful venture track record, including early stage investments in Marketo (acquired for $4.75B) and CourseHero (last valued at $3.6B). He previously ran product for Adobe’s Creative Cloud offerings and founded CoffeeTable, where he raised venture capital financing, built a team, and ultimately sold the company.

Ben is an engaged member of the Society of Kauffman Fellows and has been named to the Board of Directors for the San Francisco Chinese Culture Center and Children’s Health Council. Ben studied Computer Science at Harvard University before Mark Zuckerberg made it cool and received his MBA from Columbia Business School. Born in Peoria, raised in San Francisco, and educated in Cambridge, Ben now lives in Palo Alto with his wife, Lydia, and three very active sons.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bchoi/

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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[02:44] Ben’s childhood
[07:54] What is Ben’s superpower?
[16:58] What aspect of being a VC do most founders fail to appreciate?
[18:46] What do GPs fail to appreciate about LPs?
[21:24] The similarities between VC and the intelligence industry
[24:00] What’s changed about being a VC since 2006?
[27:14] How does Ben tell signal from noise?
[32:46] Past track record portability
[37:24] A case study on how a syndicate investor became a lead investor
[41:00] Ben and David nerd out about free T-shirts
[44:26] An example of how a GP convinced Ben to invest in their fund
[47:53] Succession planning in a VC firm
[56:51] How Legacy Venture started
[1:01:28] Next Play + Legacy Venture = Next Legacy
[1:04:05] Which non-profits do the carry go to?
[1:05:48] What kind of GP impresses Ben?
[1:07:58] Ben’s biggest professional lesson in 1998
[1:12:56] Thank you to Alchemist Accelerator for sponsoring!
[1:15:32] Legal disclaimer

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“The integrity of information. Does this actually stand on its own not because someone said so, but because the mechanics behind it make sense. Does this have internal integrity to it?”

“If you see a thread and you pull it, does it come out as a single piece of thread? There’s no integrity right there. If you pull it and the whole fabric starts to warp–… if you pull it and other pieces start to move, there are connections. That thread is actually holding this together.”


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S1E5: Courtney McCrea

Courtney Russell McCrea enjoys over 30 years of venture capital and private equity investment experience including 13 years of fund investing and 18 years of direct principal investing.

Courtney is Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Recast Capital, a 100% women-owned platform investing in and supporting emerging managers in venture, with a focus on diverse partnerships.

Prior to co-founding Recast, Courtney was a Managing Director of Weathergage Capital, a boutique fund of funds that provided its clients with access to premier venture capital, growth equity and micro-VC partnerships. Venture fund commitments included both brand name funds and emerging managers. In addition to fund investment responsibilities, Courtney led the direct co investing program at Weathergage. During her 10 year tenure at Weathergage, Courtney made commitments to 100 funds and seven direct co-investments.

Prior to Weathergage, Courtney was a General Partner with Weston Presidio, a leading diversified private equity firm based in San Francisco. After 7 years at Weston Presidio, she left in 2004 and founded Silver Partners, a private equity advisory firm where she evaluated secondary and co-investment opportunities and advised consumer growth businesses. Courtney was also a Director at Sterling Stamos, where she managed investments in buyout funds, venture capital funds and hedge funds.

Earlier in her career, Courtney made equity co-investments as an Assistant Vice President at PPM America. She also spent 5 years at GE Capital where she worked on private equity, senior and subordinated debt investing.

Courtney has an M.B.A., with honors, from the Kellogg Graduate School of Management and a B.A. in Economics from the University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana. She is a member of the Kauffman Fellows Class 3.

Courtney is a member of the NVCA Forward Board of Directors and the Alzheimer’s Association Northern California and Nevada Board of Directors.

You can find Courtney on her socials here:
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneymccrea

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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[02:37] What of Courtney’s past helped her co-found Recast Capital
[04:02] Three reasons to invest in emerging managers
[05:17] What does “institutional quality of emerging managers” mean?
[06:52] How to diligence emerging managers
[10:30] How to do reference checks on GPs
[14:40] How has being a Kauffman fellow helped Courtney build Recast’s Enablement and Accelerate programs
[19:51] How do alumni GP stay active in Recast Capital’s community
[20:59] Zoom vs. in-person education for GPs
[23:00] What kind of managers do Recast Capital invest in versus who ends up joining the Enablement Program versus who joins the Accelerate program
[28:33] Why are the Enablement Program and Accelerate program free
[30:25] Spinouts from larger funds
[32:12] What are emerging manager red flags?
[34:03] Should emerging managers have answers to questions on succession planning?
[36:00] Challenging the 1% GP commit: How much should different archetypes of GPs commit to their own fund?
[40:52] Lessons from arguments between GPs
[46:30] Getting Courtney to say yes
[47:46] Courtney may make some enemies with this statement!
[48:54] Thank you to Alchemist Accelerator for sponsoring!
[51:30] Legal disclaimer

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S1E4: Jamie Rhode

Jamie Rhode is Principal at Verdis Investment Management, focused on venture capital, private equity and hedge fund investment sourcing and due diligence.

She joined Verdis from Bloomberg, where she held roles in both equity research and credit analysis. There, she created, managed and leveraged an extensive library of statutory and financial and market data for buy and sell-side clients that use Bloomberg to make investment decisions.

A licensed Chartered Financial Analyst, she earned her bachelor’s degree in Finance and Marketing from Drexel University’s College of Business Administration.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrcfa/

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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[04:27] What skills did Jamie acquire while working at Bloomberg
[08:45] What inspired Jamie to go into equity research
[11:55] Verdis’ original allocation model
[13:27] How Verdis first built their deal flow in 2016
[15:26] What Jamie likes in a cold email
[16:41] What kind of cold email to VCs won Verdis an 80% response rate?
[20:27] Verdis’ inbound vs outbound deal flow over the years
[22:34] Why Verdis’ mandate is to invest in diversified portfolios as opposed to concentrated portfolios
[27:50] The downsides of early distributions
[32:12] The benefits of early distributions
[36:01] Luck versus skill
[40:15] Why does Verdis measure “outliers” as opposed to unicorns
[44:37] The relationship between proprietary deal flow and portfolio allocation models
[45:55] How does Verdis decide which portfolio funds get re-ups
[48:52] Why GPs shouldn’t conform their strategies to LPs’ mandates
[51:08] Why LPs should also have consistent strategies
[53:28] Why Verdis invests a third of their fund in funds based in Los Angeles
[58:50] A case study on what happens when you skip a step in the due diligence process
[1:02:57] The two things a GP can do to win Jamie over
[1:05:32] When does Verdis like to receive their tax documents from GPs?
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“Diversified managers have struggled a lot more to raise capital than more concentrated managers. I think it’s a little bit of a contrarian approach.”

“That venture capital bucket is the compounding machine for the family. We don’t look to that bucket for liquidity.”

“If you’re compounding at 25% for 12 years, that turns into a 14.9X.If you’re compounding at 14%, that’s a 5. And public market which is 11% gets you a 3.5X.”

“90% of your overall return comes from asset allocation, not individual investments.”

“If that asset is compounding at 20%, still the last 20% of time produces 40% of your return.”

“Outliers don’t truly emerge until 8-10 years after the investment.”

“If you provide me exposure to the exact same pool of startups [as] another GP of mine, then unfortunately, you don’t have proprietary deal flow for me. You don’t enhance my network diversification.”


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S1E3: Eric Woo

Eric Woo is co-founder and CEO of Revere, where he leads product development and investment analysis & due diligence efforts.

Prior to starting Revere, he was Head of Institutional Capital at AngelList, the world’s largest online venture capital investment platform that supports over $10B in assets and has participated in the financing of over 190 “unicorn” companies. At AngelList, Eric worked closely with investors to curate early-stage fund and deal opportunities. He also developed systematic and data-driven strategies for institutional investors.

Over the last 12 years, Eric has helped allocate over $160 million in venture funds and direct co-investments. Notably, he played a key role in establishing the emerging manager investment programs at Top Tier Capital and Northgate Capital, organizations that collectively have more than $15B in AUM. Eric is an acknowledged thought leader in the VC emerging managers ecosystem.

Before his venture career, Eric worked in pricing and risk management for a large insurance company and financial guarantor. He also has experience in online marketing and private market research. A Bay Area native, Eric graduated with a B.S. degree in Mechanical Engineering from UC Berkeley and has been a CFA charter holder since 2004.

You can find Eric on his socials here:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ericjwoo
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericwoo/

And huge thanks to this episode’s sponsor, Alchemist Accelerator: https://alchemistaccelerator.com/superclusters

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also watch the episode on YouTube here.

Brought to you by Alchemist Accelerator.

OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[03:30] How did Eric pivot from being an engineer to an asset manager?
[09:52] Building emerging manager programs at Top Tier and Northgate
[15:25] How does Eric define conviction?
[17:23] What was the thesis that Eric raised his fund of funds on?
[20:00] How much does an established fund’s portfolio is allocated to emerging managers?
[23:48] How did Eric pitch institutional LPs to join AngelList?
[32:48] How does Eric measure the ROI on hosting events?
[36:24] How does Eric pitch Revere to my relatives?
[39:29] How does Revere rate emerging managers?
[47:49] What are telltale signs of a fund’s outperformance?
[51:36] The value of community
[58:10] What are subconscious decisions LPs make that deserve a double take?
[1:02:09] Why strategy drift is not a bad thing
[1:04:57] What VC firm turned identity into culture?
[1:07:39] What is Eric’s nighttime routine?
[1:09:50] Angel investing is to tipping as LP investing is to ____
[1:13:45] What is one thing Eric recommends GPs do but no one ever listens?
[1:15:18] What is an investment opportunity Eric missed because of what he didn’t do rather than what he did?
[1:18:21] Thank you to Alchemist Accelerator for sponsoring!
[1:20:58] Legal disclaimer

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The Science of Re-Upping

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Soooooooo… (I know, what a great word to start a blogpost) I started this essay, with some familiarity on one subject. Little did I know I was going to learn about an entirely different industry, and be endlessly fascinated about that.

The analogy that kicked off this essay is that re-upping on a portfolio company is very much like re-signing a current player on a sports team. That was it. Simple as it was supposed to sound. The goal of any analogy was to frame a new or nuanced concept, in this case, the science of re-upping, under an umbrella of knowledge we were already familiar with.

But, I soon learned of the complexity behind re-upping players’ contracts, as one might assume. And while I will claim no authority over the knowledge and calculations that go into contracts in the sports arena, I want to thank Brian Anderson and everyone else who’s got more miles on their odometer in the world of professional sports for lending me their brains. Thank you!

As well as Arkady Kulik, Dave McClure, and all the LPs and GPs for their patience and willingness to go through all the revisions of this blogpost!

While this was a team effort here, many of this blogpost’s contributors chose to stay off the record.


The year was 1997.

Nomar Garciaparra was an instantaneous star, after batting an amazing .306/.342/.534. For the uninitiated, those are phenomenal stats. On top of batting 30 home runs and 11 triples – the latter of which was a cut above the rest of the league, it won him Rookie of the Year. And those numbers only trended upwards in the years after, especially in 1999 and 2000. Garciaparra became the hope for so many fans to end the curse of the Bambino – a curse that started when the Red Sox traded the legendary Babe Ruth to the Yankees in 1918.

Then 2001 hit. A wrist injury. An injured Achilles tendon. And the fact he needed to miss “significant time” earned him a prime spot to be traded. Garciaparra was still a phenomenal hitter when he was on, but there was one other variable that led to the Garciaparra trade. To Theo Epstein, above all else, that was his “fatal flaw.”

Someone that endlessly draws my fascination is Theo Epstein. Someone that comes from the world of baseball. A sport that venture draws a lot of inspiration, at least in analogy, like one of my fav sayings, Venture is one of the only types of investments where it’s not about the batting average but about the magnitude of the home runs you hit.

If you don’t follow baseball, Theo Epstein is the youngest general manager in the history of major league baseball at 26. But better known for ending the Curse of the Bambino, an 86-year curse that led the Red Sox down a championship drought that started when the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees. Theo as soon as he became general manager traded Nomar Garciaparra, a 5-time All-star shortstop, to the Cubs, and won key contracts with both third baseman Bill Mueller and pitcher Curt Schilling. All key decisions that led the Red Sox to eventually win the World Series 3 years later.

And when Theo left the Red Sox to join the Chicago Cubs, he also ended another curse – The Curse of the Billy Goat, ending with Theo leading them to a win in the 2016 World Series. You see, in baseball, they measure everything. From fly ball rates to hits per nine innings to pitches per plate appearance. Literally everything on the field.

But what made Theo different was that he looked at things off the field. It’s why he chose to bet on younger players than rely on the current all-stars. It’s why he measures how a teammate can help a team win in the dugout. And, it’s why he traded Nomar, a 5-time All Star, as soon as he joined, because Nomar’s “fatal flaw” was despite his prowess, held deep resentment to his own team, the Sox, when they tried to trade him just the year prior for Alex Rodriguez but failed to.

So, when Danny Meyer, best known for his success with Shake Shack, asked Theo what Danny called a “stupid question”, after the Cubs lost to the Dodgers in the playoffs, and right after Houston was hit by a massive hurricane, “Theo, who are you rooting for? The Dodgers so you can say you lost to the winning team, or Houston (Astros), because you want something good to happen to a city that was recently ravaged by a hurricane.”

Theo said, “Neither. But I’m rooting for the Dodgers because if they win, they’ll do whatever every championship team does and not work on the things they need to work on during the off season. And the good news is that we have to play them 8 times in the next season.”

You see, everyone in VC largely has access to the same data. The same Pitchbook and Crunchbase stat sheet. The same cap table. And the same financials. But as Howard Marks once said in response how you gain a knowledge advantage:

“You have to either:

  1. Somehow do a better job of massaging the current data, which is challenging; or you have to
  2. Be better at making qualitative judgments; or you have to
  3. Be better at figuring out what the future holds.”

For the purpose of this blogpost, we’re going to focus on the first one of the three.

To begin, we have to first define a term that’ll be booking its frequent flier miles for the rest of this piece – expected value.

Some defined it as the expectation of future worth. Others, a prediction of future utility. Investopedia defines it as the long-term average value of a variable. Merriam-Webster has the most rudimentary definition:

The sum of the values of a random variable with each value multiplied by its probability of occurrence

On the other hand, venture is an industry where the beta is arguably one of the highest. The risk associated with outperformance is massive as well. And the greatest returns, in following the power law, are unpredictable.

We’re often blessed with hindsight bias, but every early-stage investor in foresight struggles with predicting outlier performance. Any investor that says otherwise is either deluding you or themselves or both. At the same time, that’s what makes modeling exercises so difficult in venture, unlike our friends in hedge funds and private equity. Even the best severely underestimate the outcomes of their best performers. For instance, Bessemer thought the best possible outcome for Shopify was $400M with only a 3% chance of occurring.

Similarly, who would have thought that jumping in a stranger’s car or home, or live streaming gameplay would become as big as they are today. As Strauss Zelnick recently said, “The biggest hits are by their nature, unexpected, which means you can’t organize around them with AI.” Take the word AI out, and the sentence is equally as profound replaced with the word “model.” And it is equally echoed by others. Chris Paik at Pace has made it his mission to “invest in companies that can’t be described in a single sentence.”

But I digress.

Value itself is a huge topic – a juggernaut of a topic – and I, in no illusion, find myself explaining it in a short blogpost, but that of which I plan to spend the next couple of months, if not years, digging deeper into, including a couple more blogposts that are in the blast furnace right now. But for the purpose of this one, I’ll triangulate on one subset of it – future value as a function of probability and market benchmarks.

In other words, doubling down. Or re-upping.

For the world of startups, the best way to explain that is through a formula:

E(v) = (probability of outcome) X (outcome)

E(v) = (graduation rate) X (valuation step up from last round) X (dilution)

For the sake of this blogpost and model, let’s call E(v), appreciation value. So, let’s break down each of the variables.

What percent of your companies graduate to the next round? I shared general benchmarks in this blogpost, but the truth is it’s a bit more nuanced. Each vertical, each sub-vertical, each vintage – they all look different. Additionally, Sapphire’s Beezer recently said that it’s normal to expect a 20-30% loss ratio in the first five years of your fund. Not all your companies will make it, but that’s the game we play.

On a similar note, institutional LPs often plan to build a multi-fund, multi-decade relationship with their GPs. If they invest in a Fund I, they also expect to be there by Fund III.

How much greater is the next round’s valuation in comparison to the one in which you invested? Twice as high? Thrice? By definition, if you double down on the same company, rather than allocate to a net new company, you’re decreasing your TVPI. And as valuations grow, the cost of doubling down may be too much for your portfolio construction model to handle, especially if you’re a smaller sub-$100M fund.

It’s for the same reason that in the world of professional sports, there are salary caps. In fact, most leagues have them. And only the teams who:

  • Have a real chance at the championship title.
  • Have a lot in their coffers. This comes down to the composition of the ownership group, and their willingness to pay that tax.
  • And/or have a city who’s willing to pay the premium.

… can pay the luxury tax. Not to be too much of a homer, but the Golden State Warriors have a phenomenal team and are well-positioned to win again (at least at the time of this blogpost going out). So the Warriors can afford to pay the luxury tax, but smaller teams or teams focused on rebuilding can’t.

The Bulls didn’t re-sign the legendary Michael Jordan because they needed to rebuild. Indianapolis didn’t extend Peyton Manning’s contract ‘cause they didn’t have the team that would support Peyton’s talents. So, they needed to rebuild with a new cast of players.

Similarly, Sequoia and a16z might be able to afford to pay the “luxury tax” when betting on the world’s greatest AI talent and for them to acquire the best generative AI talent. Those who have a real chance to grow to $100M ARR, given adoption rates, retention rates, and customer demand. But as a smaller fund or a fund that has a new cast of GPs (where the old guard retired)… can you?

If a star player is prone to injury or can only play 60 minutes of a game (rather than 90 minutes), a team needs to re-evaluate the value of said player, no matter how talented they are. How much of a player’s health, motivation, and/or collaborativeness – harkening back to the anecdote of Nomar Garciaparra at the beginning – will affect their ability to perform in the coming season?

Take, for instance, the durability of a player. If there ‘s a 60% chance of a player getting injured if he/she plays longer than 60 minutes in a game and a 50% of tearing their ACL, while they may your highest scorer this season, they’re not very durable. If that player missed 25% of practices and 30% of games, they just don’t have it in them to see the season through. And you can also benchmark that player against the rest of the team. How’s that compared with the team’s average?

Of course, there’s a parallel here to also say, every decision you make should be relative to industry and portfolio benchmarks.

How great of a percentage are you getting diluted with the next round if you don’t maintain your ownership? This is the true value of your stake in the company as the company grows.

E(v) = (graduation rate) X (valuation step up from last round) X (dilution)

If the expected value is greater than one, the company is probably not worth re-upping. And that probably means the company is overhyped, or that that market is seeing extremely deflated loss ratios. In other words, more companies than should be, are graduating to the next stage; when in reality, the market is either a winner-take-all or a few-take-all market. If it is less than or equal to one, then it’s ripe to double down on. In other words, the company may be undervalued.

And to understand the above equation or for it to be actually useful (outside of an abstract concept), you need market data. Specifically, around valuation step ups as a function of industry and vertical.

If you happen to have internal data across decades and hundreds of companies, then it’s worth plugging in your own dataset as well. It’s the closest you can get to the efficient market frontier.

But if you lack a large enough sample size, I’d recommend the below model constructed from data pulled from Carta, Pitchbook, and Preqin and came from the minds of Arkady Kulik and Dave McClure.

The purpose of this model is to help your team filter what portfolio companies are worth diving deeper into and which ones you may not have to (because they didn’t pass the litmus test) BEFORE you evaluate additional growth metrics.

It is also important to note that the data we’ve used is bucketed by industry. And in doing so, assumptions were made in broad strokes. For example, deep tech is broad by design but includes niche-er markets that have their own fair share of pricing nuances in battery or longevity biotech or energy or AI/ML. Or B2B which include subsectors in cybersecurity or infrastructure or PLG growth.

Take for instance…

Energy sector appreciation values and follow-on recommendations

The energy sector sees a large drop in appreciation value at the seed stage, where all three factors contribute to such an output. Valuation step-up is just 1.71X, graduation rates are less than 50% and dilution is 38% on average.  

Second phase where re-upping might be a good idea is Series B. Main drivers as to such a decision are that dilution hovers around 35% and about 50% of companies graduate from Series A to Series B. Mark ups are less significant where we generally see only an increase in valuation at about 2.5X, which sits around the middle of the pack.

Biotech sector appreciation values and follow-on recommendations

The biotech sector sees a large drop in appreciation value at the Seed stage. This time, whereas dilution seems to match the pace of the rest of the pack (at an average of 25%), the two other factors shine greater in making a follow-on decision. Valuation step up are rather low, sitting at 1.5X. And less than 50% graduate to the next stage.

In the late 2023 market, one might also consider re-upping at the Series C round. Main driver is the unexpectedly low step-up function of 1.5X, which matches the slow pace of deployment for growth and late stage VCs. On the flip side, a dilution of 17% and graduation rate of 60% are quite the norm at this stage.

All in all, the same exercise is useful in evaluating two scenarios – either as an LP or as a GP:

  1. Is your entry point a good entry point?
  2. Between two stages, where should you deploy more capital?

For the former, too often, emerging GPs take the stance of the earlier, the better. Almost as if it’s a biblical line. It’s not. Or at least not always, as a blanket statement. The point of the above exercise is also to evaluate, what is the average value of a company if you were to jump in at the pre-seed? Do enough graduate and at a high enough price for it to make sense? While earlier may be true for many industries, it isn’t true for all, and the model above can serve as your litmus test for it. You may be better off entering at a stage with a higher scoring entry point.

For the latter, this is where the discussion of follow on strategies and if you should have reserves come into play. If you’re a seed stage firm, say for biotech, using the above example, by the A, your asset might have appreciated too much for you to double down. In that case, as a fund manager, you may not need to deploy reserves into the current market. Or you may not need as large of a reserve pool as you might suspect. It’s for this reason that many fund managers often underallocate because they overestimate how much in reserves they need.

If you’re curious to play around with the model yourself, ping Arkady at ak@rpv.global, and you can mention you found out about it through here. 😉

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