When she complains about the dishes…

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This is a repost of a piece I wrote earlier this week on my investing topic only blog that seemed to get good feedback, so sharing here as well, in hopes that it is helpful to you as well.

The post is for GPs who’ve gotten rejections from LPs, but I think the analogy stands if you’re a founder hearing back from a VC, or anyone who is doing any kind of fundraising or sales.


One of the most memorable pieces of relationship advice Iโ€™ve gotten is that line. โ€œWhen she complains about the dishes, itโ€™s not about the dishes.โ€

By the time your spouse complains about the dishes, itโ€™s a culmination of other pent-up emotions simmering at the surface. And when she says it’s the dishes, itโ€™s not. Potentially it never was. But it may have been the reason that tipped her over the edge.

That said, this is not a post about relationships. Iโ€™m not a marriage counselor or a relationship coach. This is a post about rejections. And all the reasons that come with rejections. Or more specifically, about LPs passing on GPs. Or hell, VCs passing on founders.

And yes, Iโ€™m going to use gendered language but itโ€™s purely for the purpose of extending this analogy and lesson my friend gave me. So I hope you allow me this literary liberty.

When she complains about you being too early, itโ€™s that she never had conviction over the deal. When she says you need more traction (track record), itโ€™s because she couldnโ€™t see why you would see and win the most interesting deals in your space. What you say has yet to be proven by what you did. So, the underwriting will start now for what you will do. She doesnโ€™t trust you can execute against what you promised. Youโ€™re either talking a big game (using superlatives that feel disingenuous) and/or you create a feeling of naivete. Be assured that the best allocators will be keeping track of what you promised before. Even if you, as a GP, rewrite your Docsend pitch deck. Admittedly, still, most wonโ€™t.

You will wonder why she backs others with no track record and no prior relationship with her. And 9 out of 10 times, itโ€™s a communication issue in the first (few) meetings. You gave her no reason to generate enough dopamine that would get her to act outside of the meeting.

When she complains about there being higher priority opportunities, your strategy doesnโ€™t align with the organizationโ€™s strategy. She likely did some work, and her initial work and/or references discounted the initial enthusiasm she had. She didnโ€™t know how to say no politely and without seeming like an asshole. So only after a few meetings, and only after sheโ€™s felt like sheโ€™s given you the time and respect she thinks you deserve (whether you accept it or not), she can finally pass. Your problem is you never figured out what her motivations are. What she wants in her career. What her โ€œfamilyโ€ (organization) wants of her. What keeps her up at night. Why she wants to go to work every Monday.

When she complains that there isnโ€™t enough capital to left to deploy, itโ€™s the fact you arenโ€™t good enough to be an exception that would help her raise her next vehicle or to get board approval. Excluding institutions (including family offices) who own their own pool of evergreen capital, anyone who has to ask other stakeholders for more capital to invest has at least 20-30% left to deploy when they go out to raise their next vehicle. The primary motivator for the remainder of capital are people or opportunities that best highlight an allocatorโ€™s promise to their stakeholders. Fund-of-funds promise access. That means either a multi-million dollar allocation in Anthropic or an individual (usually spinout, but sometimes highly reputable founder/operator) whoโ€™s been early in generational opportunities. Others, like multi-family offices, depending on their mandate, either promise access or their ability to pick great pickers, which means 5X+ DPI in 5 years in a prior fund is extraordinarily exciting. Realized IRR or DPI matter a lot.

When she gives you a whole list of reasons as to why theyโ€™re passing, itโ€™s because of the first reason, but she needed a laundry list of reasons to justify the one small thing she felt like she would get judged for. But that small thing came up as a recurring theme again and again, among references, among pushback from her investment committee, among her own doubts she never unearthed with you. One reason is all you need to pass. One reason is all you need. And sometimes, itโ€™s the dirty laundry (i.e. gossiping). Or the speed of your communication. Sometimes, itโ€™s the fact that you boast about another LP competitor in front of them. Sometimes, itโ€™s the fact that you forgot what you talked about in the last meeting. The reasons will always feel like bullshit to you. But trust me, theyโ€™re as real, and as meaningful as they get.

When she doesnโ€™t complain at all and just disappears from your life, she didnโ€™t feel safe with you to give you the feedback you ought to hear. She feared your reaction, or at least the expectation of your reaction. You never provided the safe space she needed. Itโ€™s likely because of how you talked about others. The more judgmental you are about others, the more sheโ€™ll thinkโ€ฆ if things go awry, will you say the same about me behind my back? Can you even handle any amount of criticism?

Thereโ€™s another great line on communication, but also on relationships by writer and poet Khalil Gibran. โ€œBetween what is said and not meant, and what is meant and not said, most of love is lost.โ€

If thereโ€™s one takeaway you need from this post, whether youโ€™re a LP, there is more love (and reputation) lost in the lack of communication than in overcommunicating.

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On spinouts

When British voters voted for Brexit in 2016, comedian James Acaster gave a hilarious and apt analogy.

When you make tea, “if you leave the [tea] bag in, and over time, the cup of tea itself as a whole gets stronger. And it might appear like the bag is getting weaker but it’s now part of a stronger cup of tea. Whereas if you take the bag out, the tea is now quite weak, and the bag itself goes directly in the bin.”

I think that’s the case with a lot of spinouts. Not all. But a lot.


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GP EQ

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A conversation with an LP reminded me of this recently. Can we trust a GP’s word that they’re a good picker if they can’t assess how likely an LP is to commit?

I’ve had multiple conversations with GPs where they tell me XXX and YYY are excited to come in the fund, and they just need more time to close their fundraise or for their process. Then the same XXX and YYY LPs ghost these GPs for months on end. For me, that’s enough for me to question their level of commitment, but not having been in those conversations firsthand, I can’t speak to the actual incentives. Sometimes, I actually know XXX and YYY LPs well enough to pick up the phone and dial them right away and ask them what’s up. Which I do. Only to hear from them and they say they had passed already.

Now I don’t know what actually goes on between those two parties. What’s said and what’s not said. There are many LPs out there who give very soft “no’s.” In hopes to not offend, they imply it’s a “no.” There are also LPs who explicitly say it’s a “yes” ONLY IF ZZZ happens. Given the current market, most of the time, ZZZ doesn’t happen, which becomes an easy out for the LP. The LP’s felt like they’ve delivered the “no.” The GP is still hanging onto the hope the LP likes them enough to break the rule. And then, there are many GPs who have selective hearing loss.

Nevertheless, there are multiple instances of this. And it’s not my job to point fingers to any party other than elucidate that this exists in our world.

That said, even if an LP doesn’t explicitly say “no”, there should be enough breadcrumbs to point to whether someone is a pass. Probably harder to know if they’re a “yes.” But there’s definitely writing on the walls if it’s a pass. And it’s almost always better to assume an LP is an out than an in if there’s hesitation.

The outstanding question for someone like me or any of my friends who I’ve had this conversation with is… is this indicative of a GP’s EQ when talking to founders? Is this GP more prone to rewriting history and facts? Is there a massive perception bias here and is the GP living through rose-tinted lens?

Richard Feynman has this great line. “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself โ€” and you are the easiest person to fool.”

And I’ve also had this conversation with another GPs a few weeks back, and I said, “You’re either lying to me or you’re lying to yourself. One is worse than the other. But neither gives me a reason to back you.”

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What is the Density of your Founder NPS? | El Pack w/ Charlotte Zhang | Superclusters

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โ€œWeโ€™re going into a world where there will be an increase in inequality in terms of the haveโ€™s versus have-notโ€™s. And so if you are invested in some of the haveโ€™s, I would actually bet on their acceleration of value aggregation in the later stages of scaling which is why I, personally, think a winning strategy is to hold onto them for as long as possible.โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang

Charlotte Zhang from Inatai Foundation is back! And if you’ve tuned into her first episode on Superclusters, you’ll know exactly why. Charlotte has been one of my favorite guests on the podcast, marrying both her profound ability for deep analysis with strong framework-oriented assessments. You might remember her 4 P’s to underwriting every manager from our prior episode.

Naturally I had to have her back for an El Pack episode to answer your questions on how to build a venture capital fund. We bring on 3 GPs at VC funds to ask 3 different questions.

99VC’s Lisa Yu asks about what LPs look for in Fund I’s beyond track record.

Escape Velocity’s Mahesh Ramakrishnan asks about recycling and what happens when you have 30% of your fund size as distributions in the first few years of the fund.

Founder Embassy’s Helena Gagern asks about investing in AI frontier labs where the first round of financing already puts the company at $400M+ in valuation. And also, how do you communicate to LPs that you have an “exceptionalism” bucket to invest out of?

As the director of investments at Inatai Foundation, Charlotte Zhang oversees the selection of external investment managers, conducts portfolio research, and helps to institutionalize processes, tools, and resources. She previously served as a senior associate at ICONIQ Capital and, before that, Medley Partners. When not working, you can find her globetrotting (18 countries and counting), writing a Yelp review about the best bite in town, or cuddling up with a book and her two adorable cats.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotterzhang/

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OUTLINE:

(00:00) Intro
(01:04) What’s new in Charlotte’s life?
(04:06) LPs Charlotte would love to meet
(05:41) Who is Lisa and 99VC?
(09:31) What qualities does Charlotte look for beyond track record?
(14:55) How does a GP know if they have a differentiated strategy?
(15:49) Charlotte’s pet peeve
(17:29) The bottoms up exercise of building a fund strategy
(18:00) Consistency of execution
(20:05) The highest level of signal you can get from a founder reference
(22:18) The ask
(22:51) Who is better at bowling: Mahesh or David?
(24:44) Who is Mahesh and Escape Velocity?
(25:20) Why is Escape Velocity spelled as EV^3?
(27:10) What happens when you have 30% DPI in the first 2 years of your fund?
(30:19) Does early DPI matter more in Fund I than Fund III?
(33:26) Should you sell secondaries at the Series B as a pre-seed/seed GP?
(37:34) Venture is under siege for no DPI
(38:18) Would Charlotte rather have 4X in 10 years or 7X in 15 years?
(39:42) Have’s and have-not’s
(40:35) Who is Helena and Founder Embassy?
(44:45) What is Charlotte’s reaction when a pre-seed GP invests in a $400M post valuation?
(49:23) How do the best GPs communicate betting off-thesis?
(50:44) How many GPs have an “exceptionalism” bucket to invest out of?
(55:56) How much underwriting goes into a GP breaking the rules?
(58:10) “A-players are obvious” but what isn’t?
(1:00:38) Charlotte’s last piece of advice for LPs
(1:03:43) Charlotte’s last piece of advice for GPs
(1:07:18) Why you should talk about the anti-portfolio
(1:09:33) David’s favorite moment from Charlotte’s previous episode

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โ€œIn venture capital, although the top quartile of emerging managers outperforms the established funds. On average, you would actually be better off investing in established funds than in an emerging manager because the dispersion of returns is so much wider in emerging managers.โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang

โ€œBecause incumbent brands create access flywheels, the most important thing for an emerging manager is having a clearly differentiated strategy. Otherwise, itโ€™s fighting an unwinnable war.โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang

โ€œInvestment strategies are simply financial products serving the market of what founders and management teams in businesses need.โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang

โ€œThe best founders will know who the best VCs are.โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang

โ€œItโ€™s all about the density of the NPS you have amongst the best talent. Of course, if they have a good experience with you, theyโ€™re more likely to refer others they think highly of to you. And thatโ€™s the reason why it becomes a leading indicator and therefore, a self-fulfilling prophecy as to who rises to the top.โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang

โ€œItโ€™s actually a higher signal to me if itโ€™s someone referring you that didnโ€™t take money from you.โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang

โ€œWhen weโ€™re conducting diligence as an LP, you should be looking under the rocks where you are more likely to find disproving evidence.โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang

โ€œIf [venture] does not produce any realized returns, how will it be self-funding? And how can you continue pacing sustainably into this asset class?โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang

โ€œWeโ€™re going into a world where there will be an increase in inequality in terms of the haveโ€™s versus have-notโ€™s. And so if you are invested in some of the haveโ€™s, I would actually bet on their acceleration of value aggregation in the later stages of scaling which is why I, personally, think a winning strategy is to hold onto them for as long as possible.โ€ โ€” Charlotte Zhang


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“You don’t have enough dopamine in your pitch!” | El Pack w/ Asher Siddiqui | Superclusters

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โ€œHow you modulate a good story is by inserting dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins at the right times to be able to deliver that story so that the person listening to that story can form an opinion.โ€ โ€” Asher Siddiqui

Asher Siddiqui from the Song Family Office joins me on El Pack to answer your questions on how to build a venture capital fund. We bring on 3 GPs at VC funds to ask 3 different questions.

Inuka Capital’s Gautam Shewakramani asks about what GPs typically overshare and under-share when they’re pitching an LP. As well as how an LP identifies if a GP has great sourcing if they’re a generalist fund.

Unshackled Venture’s Manan Mehta asks if VC is still only one asset class. Is early stage now a combination of discovery and validation capital?

Keymaker VC’s Tim Wang asks what do most LPs overvalue in GPs.

Asher Siddiqui is a global tech investor, M&A dealmaker, and venture fund builder with over 25 years of hands-on experience across venture capital, entrepreneurship, and more than $15B in executed M&A transactions.

He began his career as a software engineer and entrepreneur in the US and UK before spending a decade leading M&A and corporate venture at Etisalat Group (now e& Group), one of the worldโ€™s largest listed TMT investment groups. There, he led acquisitions, exits, and strategic transactions across multiple continents.

In 2016, Asher joined the global leadership team at 500 Startups in San Francisco, helping scale the platform to $2B+ AUM, with a portfolio that includes 35+ unicorns and 160+ centaurs.

Since then, he has helped launch and scale several institutional VC firmsโ€”including Race Capital, Lumikai, Sukna Ventures, Zayn VC, and Humanrace Capitalโ€”and serves on the advisory boards of funds such as FootPrint Coalition Ventures, Merus Capital, and The Treasury.

To date, Asher has made 100+ venture investments (both direct and LP), raised hundreds of millions in LP commitments, mentored hundreds of emerging VC managers globally, and advised countless founders.

You can find Asher on his socials here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashersiddiqui/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/ashercdkey

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OUTLINE:

(00:00) Intro
(02:09) The DOSE framework for underwriting pitches
(04:19) Asher’s new role
(05:38) Who is Gautam and Inuka Capital?
(09:19) What do most GPs overshare and undershare on?
(15:19) How does Asher differentiate sourcing ability in generalist funds?
(20:01) The first date analogy
(22:38) What emotions do each of DOSE represent?
(27:23) Too much dopamine, not enough endorphins
(30:02) Who is Manan and Unshackled Ventures?
(31:33) Unshackled’s most recent big win
(32:46) Discovery capital vs validation capital
(33:31) Is venture still only one asset class?
(43:29) The Song Family Office portfolio construction
(51:41) Asher’s stance on reserves
(55:00) Why it makes sense to go to zero AGMs
(56:23) The ask
(57:27) Who is Tim and Keymaker VC?
(58:45) What do most LPs overvalue in GPs?
(1:04:40) A new way to share the team’s personality on the deck?
(1:08:09) Asher’s last piece of advice
(1:14:57) David’s favorite moment of Asher in S5

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โ€œโ€œHappiness is amazing. Itโ€™s so amazing it doesnโ€™t matter if itโ€™s yours or not. A society grows great when old men plant trees the shade of which they know they will never sit in.โ€ โ€” from Ricky Gervaisโ€™ After Life

โ€œHow you modulate [a good story] is by inserting dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins at the right times to be able to deliver that story so that the person listening to that story can form an opinion.โ€ โ€” Asher Siddiqui

โ€œThereโ€™s no point of perfect information, especially in venture, where you say โ€˜I have enough informationโ€™, this is the thesis, the timing is nowโ€”… No, thereโ€™s a lot of belief involved.โ€ โ€” Asher Siddiqui


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12 Types of LPs

I just shared this verbally on a podcast and a talk recently, and realized while I’ve shared this friends, I’ve never shared it publicly explicitly or made a graphic for it.

What is it? And this was helpful when I was in IR, but also hopefully helpful as a GP pitching LPs, what are the types of LPs that exist?

I never really liked the line, “If you know one family office, you only know one.” Or if you know 1 LP, you only know one.” Probably true in a lot of circumstances, but feels odd that there are 100,000+ types of family offices or LPs.

Short blogpost, but I’ll probably elaborate on each in a future one, but sometimes a picture speaks a thousand words.

This is not all-inclusive, just like Myers-Briggs or OCEAN/Big 5 or the enneagram isn’t. But hopefully a good orienting framework in the first few meetings with LPs.

I borrowed a little bit of the nomenclature my buddy Matt Curtolo used as my original segmentation of LP archetypes was not as well-worded.

X-axis is if they own / create the wealth or not. Y-axis is Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs.

P.S. This is not a framework you brag about to your LPs. You don’t tell any LPs how they’re bucketed. Just like you as the GP don’t like to get bucketed, no LP wants to. But in this case, when fundraising, you need to eat your ego.

P.P.S. Honestly, you should probably eat your ego while investing, but no one usually listens to this latter comment.


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    What Your Lawyer Isn’t Telling You About LPA Terms | Apurva Mehta & JD Montgomery | Superclusters | S7PSE1

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    โ€œOur best GPs are talking to their founders all the time. And our best GP relationships, we talk to all the time.โ€ โ€” Apurva Mehta

    โ€œIf you canโ€™t handle something going to zero, then you shouldnโ€™t do one.โ€ โ€” JD Montgomery

    Apurva Mehta is the co-founding Managing Partner of Summit Peak Investments, a fund-of-funds that boasts a portfolio of both venture fund investments and direct investments, including the likes of Affirm, Anduril, Airtable, Opendoor, and Wish, just to name a few.

    Prior to starting Summit Peak in 2018 with his co-founder, Patrick O’Connor, he previously served as Vice President and Deputy Chief Investment Officer for the Children’s Hospital Endowment Portfolio in Fort Worth, Texa. From 2008 to 2011, he was the Director of Portfolio Investments at The Juilliard School in New York City. Apurva began his career in investment consulting and investment banking at Citigroup and Lehman Brothers. He was recognized for his expertise when he was named to aiCIO Magazineโ€™s Top Forty Under Forty in 2012 and 2013 and honored as a Rising Star by Institutional Investor. He holds a BBA in Finance from The George Washington University.

    You can find Apurva on his socials here:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/apurvaamehta/

    JD Montgomery leads the Family Office division at Canterbury Consulting and is a seasoned advisor with nearly four decades of experience serving prominent families with a focus on strategy, organization and measurement. Based in Newport Beach, he serves a select group of multi-generational families and helps them navigate the complexities of wealth, purpose, and legacy. Mr. Montgomery partners with his clients to help them optimize the allocation of their resources across generations. Over the years, Mr. Montgomery has developed a deep network of relationships in the venture capital industry. He has helped his clients gain meaningful exposure to venture funds and direct investments and develop relationships with leading innovators and investors globally. He is a Managing Director, shareholder, and board member at Canterbury Consulting. He graduated from Stanford University and holds the Chartered Alternative Investment Analyst (CAIA) designation.

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    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jd-montgomery-6161341b/

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    OUTLINE:

    (00:00) Intro
    (01:53) How did this episode come to be?
    (06:56) What do LPs get right/wrong with co-invests?
    (12:06) GP best practices for co-investments
    (14:35) How do you know a GP is capable of pre-empting a round?
    (16:37) How often should GPs be talking to their portfolio founders?
    (17:52) Why Apurva goes to AGMs
    (18:17) How Apurva/JD stays in touch with GPs
    (23:33) The ask
    (24:01) Solo GPs
    (31:42) Types of solo GPs who join multi-stage firms later
    (34:32) What’s the skew in the benchmarking data?
    (39:22) What lawyers don’t tell you about carveout capital in LPAs
    (44:46) LPA terms that LPs redline
    (45:44) Carry ratchets that LPs hate
    (48:15) How higher fees impact IRR
    (49:39) Outlandish fees on SPVs
    (50:49) How much should a GP’s salary be?
    (52:56) Cashless GP contributions
    (53:59) Do $1T outcomes change venture math?
    (59:17) Should private market investors be public market investors?
    (1:04:30) What made Apurva nervous? What does he love?
    (1:07:57) What does JD love?

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    โ€œIf you canโ€™t handle something going to zero, then you shouldnโ€™t do one.โ€ โ€” JD Montgomery

    โ€œOur best GPs are talking to their founders all the time. And our best GP relationships, we talk to all the time.โ€ โ€” Apurva Mehta

    โ€œIf Iโ€™m going to an AGM to learn about whatโ€™s going on in our portfolio, I am not doing my job.โ€ โ€” Apurva Mehta


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    How Value Add Differs in PE vs VC | Julia Rees Toader | Superclusters | S7E6

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    “In private equity, some of the older tricks about just picking on more leverage are not going to work as well now because rates are higher. We need to have more focus on operational improvement and margin expansion. And in venture, youโ€™re not expected to have good margins.โ€ โ€” Julia Rees Toader

    Julia Rees Toader is the Founding Partner of PrinCap, an independent investment portfolio strategy firm working with institutions and individuals on manager selection, asset allocation, and strategic advisory. Prior to PrinCap, she was the Head of Portfolio Strategy and Head of Relationship Management at Heritage Holdings, a multi-family office. Before Heritage, Julia was the head of Portfolio Strategy at Goldman Sachs Asset Management ($3Tr assets under supervision). She and her team advised sovereign wealth funds, pensions, financial advisory firms, private banks, and other long-term asset owners on asset allocation. She studied mechanical engineering and computer science at Princeton University and is a CFA charterholder. Before Goldman Sachs, she worked on M&A and business development for an early-stage medical device biotech firm.

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    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-rees-toader-cfa-22871030/

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    OUTLINE:

    (00:00) Intro
    (01:38) A ‘happy accident’ at 16
    (04:03) Julia’s first startup experience
    (06:32) Why did Julia join Goldman Sachs?
    (07:30) When did Julia’s appreciation for finance start?
    (08:05) Conversations around the Rees and Toader dinner table
    (09:48) Finance vs mechanical engineering
    (13:26) On exceptional talent
    (15:18) How to keep a cool head when you’re successful
    (20:19) Do small emerging managers outperform?
    (22:27) How do you know if a GP is founder-friendly?
    (23:39) The bad pitch meeting
    (25:00) Value adds in PE vs VC
    (29:49) Difference between PE vs VC portfolio construction models
    (31:19) Timelines to return in PE and VC
    (33:17) Secondaries
    (34:34) The ethics of continuation vehicles
    (36:07) The subscription ask
    (36:40) Are all secondaries created equal?
    (38:30) What is 10+1+1?
    (40:32) Hedge funds looking like private market funds
    (41:16) What do you do when you have $3B?
    (44:43) What is home country bias?
    (46:40) How do you know you’re overweighted on allocation?
    (47:15) The endowment effect in secondaries
    (48:32) Leaderless investment committee sessions
    (49:52) The merits of GP stakes
    (54:10) Why private credit is interesting
    (56:21) The duration of GP stakes
    (57:36) The duration of hedge fund GP stakes
    (58:11) How much GP stake is worth it?
    (1:00:33) Hedge funds: How much is a good GP stake?
    (1:02:00) How much is the max an LP wants to own of a hedge fund?
    (1:03:12) Tax structuring is another form of alpha
    (1:06:52) Cheetos Pelotazos
    (1:09:15) Advice to women in finance
    (1:12:28) Post-credit scene: Age of Empires, Starcraft, and Zelda

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    โ€œIn private equity, you want to have that strong value creation playbook. It used to be that you could do quite well doing mostly financial engineering, roll-ups, that kind of thing. That still works, but I think a lot of the money in the next part of the cycle is going to come from improving the margins or increasing EBITDA, so making operational improvements. So private equity, some of the older tricks about just picking on more leverage are not going to work as well now because rates are higher. We need to have more focus on operational improvement and margin expansion. And in venture, youโ€™re not expected to have good margins.โ€ โ€” Julia Rees Toader

    โ€œThe providers of liquidity always get paid.โ€ โ€” Julia Rees Toader

    โ€œLPs and GPs both donโ€™t want to be forced sellers.โ€ โ€” Julia Rees Toader

    โ€œHome country bias is the tendency of people to overallocate to their home market.โ€ โ€” Julia Rees Toader

    โ€œThe endowment effect, which is the idea that if you own something, you think itโ€™s more valuable than what anyone else is willing to pay for it.โ€ โ€” Julia Rees Toader

    โ€œTax structuring is another form of alpha.โ€ โ€” Julia Rees Toader

    โ€œAlphaโ€™s three things: information asymmetry, access, and, actually, taxes.โ€ โ€” Vijen Patel


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    Does a VC’s Value-Add Even Matter? | Stacey Kline & Ben Gallacher | Superclusters | S7E5

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    โ€œGPs over-index on how that value-add ties into a portfolio strategy.โ€ โ€” Stacey Kline

    Stacey Kline and Ben Gallacher are co-founders of February Capital, a fund-of-funds dedicated to providing access to the best in venture. Prior to starting February, they’ve each held roles as professional athletes, corporate lawyers, startup founders, emerging managers themselves, family office allocators, just to name a few.

    We spend much of this episode talking about their backgrounds that led them to where they are today, but also on why Stacey and Ben spend so much time underwriting emerging managers’ value-adds, as well as their controversial take on it.

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    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceykline/

    You can find Ben on his socials here:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamingallacher/

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    OUTLINE:

    (00:00) Intro
    (04:03) Why did it take 22 months to set up fund of funds in Canada?
    (07:22) Toughest moments when building February Capital
    (10:12) How did Ben know he wanted to be an LP?
    (12:58) How did Stacey know she wanted to be an LP?
    (16:53) The doctor’s advice no one expected
    (18:32) Ben’s first NO from Stacey
    (23:06) Why is it called February Capital?
    (23:58) What is the role of the LP today?
    (27:59) What Ben and Stacey look for in GPs
    (31:08) When does non-consensus thinking lead to portfolio divergence?
    (36:28) How much portfolio overlap is fair for February?
    (39:31) How large is February’s portfolio?
    (43:17) Picking an ecosystem vs picking an investor
    (46:24) What types of GPs did Stacey change her mind on?
    (47:56) Underwriting a GP’s story
    (49:44) Stacey’s controversial take on value-adds
    (53:07) Why value-adds affect sourcing
    (57:10) Examples of negative value-add
    (59:19) Refreshing your value add
    (1:03:36) An example of when GP and founder incentives are misaligned
    (1:05:12) The February Capital OS you don’t see

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    โ€œWhat weโ€™re looking for are GPs who are highly convicted in their strategy, where theyโ€™re focused on, how they articulate that, and then the proof points that tie the story together.โ€ โ€” Ben Gallacher

    โ€œAt the end of the day, our job is to take risks.โ€ โ€” Ben Gallacher

    โ€œYou have to refresh your network every seven years.โ€ โ€” Ben Gallacher citing Josh Kopelman

    โ€œIt really is fundamentally our job to figure out not to uncover unobvious ecosystems, itโ€™s to figure out who to back in the obvious ones.โ€ โ€” Stacey Kline

    โ€œIf thereโ€™s someone in the operator seat, thatโ€™s amazing because they are boots on the ground. Itโ€™s really hard to see around corners and theyโ€™re the ones who are best positioned to see the world today super, super clearly and know what needs to be built.โ€ โ€” Stacey Kline

    โ€œ[GPs] can potentially over-index on how that value-add ties into a portfolio strategy.โ€ โ€” Stacey Kline

    โ€œDo you end up spending the most time with the companies that are performing really well or with the companies that arenโ€™t? Itโ€™s often that companies in a portfolio that are doing really well donโ€™t actually need that much help.โ€ โ€” Stacey Kline

    โ€œIf I were to defend the GP here on value-add and helping, at the end of the day, youโ€™re just trying to better your sourcing because if you really help a company thatโ€™s struggling and they decide it doesnโ€™t work and they start another business, they want to look back and be like, โ€˜That GP was super helpful to me and they were with me during my hardest times. Iโ€™m going to call them because Iโ€™m starting a new company and I want them to back me again.โ€™โ€ โ€” Ben Gallacher

    โ€œ70% of VCs are not value-add at all. Theyโ€™re just capital and thatโ€™s fine. 15% are generally value-add. And 15% are actually negative value.โ€ โ€” Ben Gallacher

    โ€œThe question is say-do ratio. An old mentor of mine used to say that to me, โ€˜Whatโ€™s your say-do ratio? And then our job is basically to audit that. Are founders telling us what you say youโ€™re doing? And does that matter?โ€ โ€” Ben Gallacher


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    Decks, Intro Meetings, and AGMs

    A few weeks ago, a friend and I hosted the first of a series of social experiments between LPs and GPs, which the placeholder name for all of this is Allocation Games. Within which, we have a set of Family Feud-esque events, which we’re calling “Investor Feud.” For those unfamiliar with Family Feud, the show asks 100 people a series of questions which then during the show, the two sides tries to guess the most common answers to those questions in efforts to generate points.

    We did the same.

    So we asked about 30 LPs and 30 GPs 3 questions for a game we were going to play the next day. Having sent the email at 7:30PM, and needing responses within 12 hours, we only received responses from 38. 25 of which were LPs. So use that as the lens to interpret the responses below.

    But given the responses, I thought it might be interesting to share some of the responses we got.

    Admittedly, all the responses here are to be expected. So nothing more to comment on here.

    I actually, didn’t think LP preferences would rank fifth. Given how many responses from LPs we got, I thought more LPs would have brought up the fact that many GPs don’t ask an LP what they choose to invest in. But alas, it’s still in the top 5 of responses.

    Funnily enough, I was at an AGM yesterday where I heard an LP compliment the GP presenting that he was glad the GP didn’t just read the slides. But what I thought was the most interesting out of the responses we received was that many of those who responded gave actual examples of things they didn’t like. For instance, at one AGM, the team had caviar on tap. The LP who submitted the response then said, “I could see my dollars disappearing before my eyes.”

    I also think the second and the sixth response, no time for networking and virtual AGMs go hand-in-hand, most virtual sessions leave very little time for networking and even those who do have it too structured.

    Also, yesterday, in a separate catchup with a long-time LP friend, we were talking about the agenda for the best events out there. And he said, 50% of the time for structured panels and talks, and 50% for networking, and ideally smaller, more curated audiences, which he cited the Alignment Summit just last week as a great example of that structure.

    P.S. For the rest of the responses that have intentionally stayed hidden, I’ll leave that to your imagination. Let’s just say the responses were… interesting.


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