Request for LPs (2025)

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A capital allocator is someone who balances the humility that they are not the world’s best at something (or might never be) with the deep belief in the long-term potential of an asset class (even if that means they will play a less active role in the future of that asset class).

As always, the last holiday period was a time for introspection and reflection. Many of the conversations I had were around request for startups (RFS) with VCs and request for funds (RFF) with LPs. Many of the latter focused on spaces and problems that individuals and family offices personally care a lot about.

In the essence of putting my vote for all the below, I’m going to phrase them as questions and pontifications rather than statements. Since I don’t have the capital to invest in such organizations, but also it is highly likely that these organizations need no external sources of capital. In fact, a number of the family offices I’ve conversed with have enough capital where they no longer use external bank providers for lending, but borrow and invest only within the families.

Is there a world where the LP is the sourcing engine for the GPs in their portfolio?

Like Deep Checks, but catalyzed by a single institution with large brand appeal. The problem is two-fold:

  1. Most LPs are not good at identifying great deals at the pre-seed and seed stage.
  2. Many LPs love co-investment opportunities. They’ve historically invested in brand-name funds expecting such opportunities, but largely evidenced in the 2020 to early 2022 hype cycle, most got no calls from their VCs at all. So, they’ve moved towards emerging managers who don’t have reserves to cash in on their top deal flow.

If an LP is willing to be a sourcing engine which complements their portfolio funds’ deal flow, that LP will have a chance to build (a) conviction earlier, and (b) build relationships with founders earlier. And in the sourcing/picking/winning framework, outsource the picking element to people who have more refined tastes built upon years of being boots on the ground.

Of course, said LP cannot enforce that GP invests in a certain type of company in which its sourcing engine brings in. That’ll defeat the purpose of investing in GPs in the first place, as well as diversifying risk.

Is there a world where a deeply networked LP leverages their network to support the underlying startup portfolio?

There are a number of fund-of-funds in the world who offer their geographical connections to help a portfolio fund’s startup grow in their respective market, but I’ve seen comparatively few, if any, LPs who offer their deep networks as advisors/mentors to portfolio founders.

For the most part, a VC is likely to better connected to tech talent, executives and founders. But quite a few family offices and endowments have their own deeply entrenched networks. Endowments have alumni networks. Family offices, depending on their source of wealth, are well-connected in the industry that created their wealth. Luxury brands. Oil and gas, as well as renewable energy. Infrastructure. CPG. Pharmaceutical drugs. Transportation. And the list goes on.

In other words, the LP would help a VC win deals based on their expansive combined networks. And sometimes the best advice a founder can get is not from another founder or VC, but someone tangential to the ecosystem who has seen the world from a birds eye view.

I’ve written before that there are three kinds of mentors: peer, tactical, and strategic. And you need all three.

  1. Peer: Someone with similar level of experience as you do
  2. Tactical: Someone who’s 2-5 years out and who can check your blind side
  3. Strategic: Someone who’s attained success in a particular field and is often 10+ years out from where you are. They offer the macro and big-picture perspective, and help you define long-term goals.

Founders often have their peers already. And if not that, there are a number of communities, forums, and groups out there where founders can exchange notes with each other. Many VCs often bring their founders together to co-mingle as well in annual or quarterly get-togethers.

VCs themselves often act as tactical mentors, and given how their portfolios grow also have access to a plethora of tactical mentors for any given company.

LPs with their large networks of people who run multi-billion dollar enterprises (often not tech), many of whom achieved financial success independently, have access to people who could be strategic mentors for founders in their fund-of-fund’s underlying portfolio.

This isn’t a particularly traditional fund model or fund-of-funds model, but nevertheless would be an interesting product for asset owners. Namely large institutions who are looking for product diversification and who have little to no short-term and medium-term liquidity needs. Large single family offices, pensions, and potentially some endowments and foundations.

Is there a smaller product that focuses on vintage diversification from both an entry and exit perspective?

Most investors focus on entry vintage diversification, not as much for exits. Some LPs do, to make sure they have liquidity in every vintage. While I’ve seen only a small, small number of funds and fund-of-funds do this, I wonder if this is something that is more interesting to a broader customer base of LPs.

Of those I’ve seen so far:

  • Crypto funds that hold both token-based assets and equity-based assets. The token-based ones are expected to deliver DPI within years 4-8. The equity-based assets are expected to deliver DPI within years 8-12.
  • Funds-of-funds that hold multiple asset classes within a single LP entity. Secondaries for 3-6-year time horizons. Buyouts for 5-8-year time horizons. And venture capital for 8-12 year time horizons. Some also hold venture debt assets and cryptocurrency themselves.
  • Large multi-stage billion-dollar plus VC funds that have a suite of product offerings for LPs.

There are many emerging LPs and LPs who see VC as an access class who can’t write massive checks, but need to hedge their bets when writing into a speculative asset class.

While I’m still working to collect more data on this, I do wonder. In modern history, market cycles happen every 8-12 years. Venture funds exist on 10-12 year time horizons. Theoretically, that means if you’re investing in the least expensive entry windows, you’re also existing in the lowest revenue multiple windows. And if you’re investing in the most expensive vintages, you’re also existing in the great markets. Which effectively means, the delta between “buying low” and “selling high” are roughly the same no matter which markets your entry point is.

The data seems to suggest that so far, but the publicly available datasets (i.e. Pitchbook) have heavy survivorship bias. There’s no incentive for funds that fizzle out midway or near the end to report their metrics. Carta is really interesting, but their datasets aren’t robust till after 2017.

As an allocator, it just means you just need to be in every vintage. It makes me wonder if it really matters to be investing in down or up markets. Probably not. As the sages who have invested through multiple cycles tell me. Though I wonder if underwriting venture funds to 15 years changes anything on the DPI front across multiple vintages.

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Talent Networks are your Greatest Asset | Adam Marchick | Superclusters | S4E9

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“When investing in funds, you are investing in a blind pool of human potential.” – Adam Marchick

Over the past twenty years, Adam Marchick has had unique experiences as a founder, general partner (GP), and limited partner (LP). Most recently, Adam managed the venture capital portfolio at Emory’s endowment, a $2 billion portfolio within the $10 billion endowment. Prior to Emory, Adam spent ten years building two companies, the most recent being Alpine.AI, which was acquired by Headspace. Simultaneously, Adam was a Sequoia Scout and built an angel portfolio of over 25 companies. Adam was a direct investor at Menlo Ventures and Bain Capital Ventures, sourcing and supporting companies including Carbonite (IPO), Rent The Runway (IPO), Rapid7 (IPO), Archer (M&A), and AeroScout (M&A). He started his career in engineering and product roles at Facebook, Oracle, and startups.

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[00:00] Intro
[03:14] Who is Kathy Ku?
[06:20] Lesson from Sheryl Sandberg
[06:39] Lesson from Justin Osofsky
[07:46] How Facebook became the proving grounds for Adam
[09:26] The cultural pillars of great organizations
[10:40] When to push forward and when to slow down
[12:39] Adam’s first investment: Dell
[14:20] What did Adam do on Day 1 when he first became an LP
[17:00] Emory’s co-investment criteria
[20:02] Private equity co-invests vs venture co-invests
[21:15] Teaser into Akkadian’s strategy
[23:03] Underwriting blind pools of human potential
[29:03] Why does Adam look at 10 antiportfolio companies when doing diligence?
[32:11] What excites and scares Adam about VC
[35:36] Engineering serendipity
[37:52] Where is voice technology going?
[39:45] How does Adam think about maintaining relationships?
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“For an endowment doing co-invests, you should never squint.” – Adam Marchick

“When investing in funds, you are investing in a blind pool of human potential.” – Adam Marchick


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The Dao of Investing in VC Funds | Jay Rongjie Wang | Superclusters | S4E8

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“The first layer is setting up your own strategy. The second layer is portfolio construction. How do you do your portfolio construction based on the strategy you set out to do? And then manager selection comes last. Within the portfolio construction target, how do you pick managers that fit that ‘mandate?’” – Jay Rongjie Wang

Jay Rongjie Wang is the founding Chief Investment Officer of Primitiva Global, where she runs a family-backed Multi-asset Strategy. She also works extensively with emerging VC managers, and sits on the Selection Committee of Bridge Funding Global.

Jay’s background uniquely combines software engineering (at the world’s largest fintech platform) and institutional investing (at top funds including Fidelity and Sequoia), as well as general management (3x executive in tech startups). Jay has lived in 5 different countries across 9 major cities, giving her a global perspective.

Jay obtained her B.A and M.Sci in Physics from Cambridge University and M.B.A from INSEAD. In 2023 she was listed as an Entrepreneurial Pioneer Under 35 by Hurun Wealth.

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[00:00] Intro
[04:12] Life atop a Daoist mountain
[10:27] Qigong and tai chi
[12:21] What is dao?
[19:18] The weapon that Jay specializes in
[21:08] Why did Jay leave the Daoist temple?
[24:24] The motivations behind Jay’s career shifts
[30:05] The difference between underwriting a VC fund and a fund-of-funds
[33:08] How does Jay get to know a fund manager?
[36:31] The 3-layer process for building an allocation strategy
[38:01] Picking the initial asset class
[45:29] How much Jay allocates to venture
[48:43] What does “reasonably diversified” mean?
[49:15] Figuring out the portfolio construction model
[54:59] At what point do you stop maximizing for portfolio returns?
[56:57] How Jay calculates a 200X target return on direct investments
[57:53] Data on returns as a function of portfolio size
[1:01:42] The biggest challenge once you’ve picked your strategy
[1:04:40] Selecting the right fund managers
[1:14:17] The difference between guqin and piano
[1:18:42] Intuition versus discipline
[1:24:08] Post-credit scene
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“If you have the deal flow and you have the energy and have the skills to construct your own portfolio, then funds-of-funds obviously are more complimentary than necessary.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“The first layer is setting up your own strategy. The second layer is portfolio construction. How do you do your portfolio construction based on the strategy you set out to do? And then manager selection comes last. Within the portfolio construction target, how do you pick managers that fit that ‘mandate?’” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“The later the stage you go, […] capital becomes more anonymous, and […] the more you converge to public market returns.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“I only put the regenerative part of a wealth pool into venture. […] That number – how much money you are putting into venture capital per year largely dictates which game you’re playing.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“Your average median of a fund-of-funds is higher than a venture capital fund, and the variance, the standard deviation, is lower. So it is possible for a VC fund to have 40%, 50%, or higher IRR. It’s much, much less likely for a fund-of-funds to achieve that, but also the likelihood of losing money is much, much lower for a fund-of-funds.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“The reason why we diversify is to improve return per unit of risk taken.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“Bear in mind, every fund that you add to your portfolio, you’re reducing your upside as well. And that is something a lot of people don’t keep in mind.” – Jay Rongjie Wang

“Once you have a strategy, the hardest thing for me is to stick to that strategy because you just meet those amazing managers, amazing funds all the time.” – Jay Rongjie Wang


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The Pension Fund Perspective on Buyout Strategies | Charissa Lai | Superclusters | S4E7

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“Diversification is your one free lunch.” – Charissa Lai

Charissa has experience in Investing, Strategy and Relationship Management across Private Equity and Investment Banking. She’s gained global perspective from having worked and lived in South Africa, England, Canada, China and the USA. Her expertise includes selecting fund managers and co-investments, developing alternatives strategies and building relationships. She’s a recipient of 2016 Women in Capital Markets Emerging Leaders Award with CPPIB. She serves as a Board Director at the Toronto Humane Society.

Charissa holds an MBA from Northwestern University and an HBSc. from University of Toronto.

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[00:00] Intro
[03:51] When Charissa first met the Dalai Lama
[07:08] Charissa’s early career
[08:02] Charissa’s rejection from her dream job
[11:01] Why did Charissa switch from computer science to investment banking
[12:16] How Charissa became an LP
[14:24] Pinch-me moments for Charissa
[16:04] Building the investment process for a $70B pension fund
[18:37] The duration of partner roles is quite telling
[20:58] Assessing buyout track records
[25:01] Buyout loss ratios
[26:36] When buyouts and VC are getting more and more similar
[28:19] The value of vintage diversification
[32:51] How Charissa thinks about personal portfolio allocation
[40:22] The one VC fund that Charissa invested in
[42:53] Charissa’s beer can chicken
[47:13] What memory does Charissa cherish?
[49:26] Post-credit scene
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VC as an Asset vs Access Class

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There are LPs who see VC as an asset class. And there are those who see it as an access class. Most GPs spend time with the former. Most emerging GPs try to spend time with the latter, just ’cause the former are out of their reach for multiple reasons. Chief of which is probably that the “asset-class” LPs typically write large checks, have small teams, and have little to no appetite for the risk in this asset class. Also given how much the industry is a black box, it’s hard to underwrite anything that puts their career at risk.

But most emerging GPs I talk to actually fail the latter, the “access-class” LPs, more often than not. Much of which is in understanding how to approach them.

In the world of business, there are customers and there are buyers. Someone who makes a one-time purchase, and rarely again is a buyer. It could be due lack of demand. Lack of availability. Or simply, they were bamboozled. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Most emerging LPs, whether individuals or family offices or even corporate venture arms, buy a product once. And unfortunately, what they were sold and what they bought ended up being two different things.

Relationships, in any industry, take time to nurture. It takes time to win trust. Those who trust easily can take trust away easily. Yet, most GPs talk to LPs for the first time when they start fundraising. With a fire under them. And a sense of urgency as the clock is ticking. And by function of that, attempt to force these LPs who see VC as an access class to make a transactional decision.

To help visualize the difference, this is how I typically like to frame it:

LPs who see VC as an…Asset classAccess class
When pitching them, it’s similar to which business functionMarketing
(Brand and outliers matter)
Sales
Turnover rate in portfolioLowHigh
Involvement“Lean back”
(Big picture)
“Lean in”
(In the trenches)
StrategyStrategy not to lose
(Play to stay rich)
Strategy to win
(Play to get rich)
Depth vs BreadthBreadth > DepthDepth > Breadth
Capital flows in the near futureSteady state
(VC exists and will keep our allocation at a steady state / set percentage annually. Any additional significant DPI generated here is re-allocated to other assets.)
Capital increase
(VC is interesting and likely to increase allocation to it in the impending future.)

For access-driven LPs, they typically transition to asset-driven after about 4 years. Subsequently churning from their “access” category, as they now have enough relationships and “experience” building a strategy around venture capital. Access-driven LPs typically churn through their portfolio quite frequently, with generational shifts and new regimes and interests.

Moreover, with access-driven LPs, the pitching process is often collaborative and there’s room for terms negotiation. More often than not, they have curiosities they’d like to satiate. Asset-driven LPs have you pitch them. When challenged, they are more defensive than they are curious.

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The 4 P’s to Evaluate GPs | Charlotte Zhang | Superclusters | S4E6

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“Executional excellence can get you to being great at something – let’s call that top quartile – but it really is passion that distinguishes the best from great – top decile.” – Charlotte Zhang

As the director of investments, Charlotte Zhang oversees the selection of external investment managers at Inatai Foundation, conducts portfolio research, and helps to institutionalize processes, tools, and resources. Experienced in impact investing, she previously served as a senior associate at ICONIQ Capital and, before that, Medley Partners. Investing on behalf of foundations affiliated with family offices, her investments supported a variety of nonprofit work, from early childhood education to autism research. Charlotte was a founding partner of Seed Consulting Group, a California-based nonprofit that provides pro bono strategy consulting to environmental and public health organizations, and currently serves on the Women’s Association of Venture and Equity’s west coast steering committee and as a Project Pinklight panelist for Private Equity Women Investor Network. She is also on the advisory boards of MoDa Partners, a family office whose mission is to advance the economic and educational equity of women and girls, and 8090 Partners, a multifamily office consisting of families and entrepreneurs across diverse industries that is currently deploying an impact investment fund.

Charlotte earned a BS with honors in business administration from the University of California, Berkley. When not working, you can find her globetrotting (18 countries and counting), writing a Yelp review about the best bite in town, or cuddling up with a book and her two adorable cats.

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[00:00] Intro
[02:56] Charlotte’s humble beginnings
[07:02] Lessons as a pianist
[10:23] Lessons from swimming that piano didn’t teach
[14:52] How Charlotte became an LP
[17:44] Where are emerging managers looking for deal flow these days?
[21:23] Reasons as to why Inatai may pass on a fund
[24:35] The 4 P’s to Evaluate GPs
[29:26] How small is too small of a track record?
[34:42] How do you build a multi-billion dollar portfolio from scratch
[39:43] The minimum viable back office for an LP
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Three E’s of Fund Discipline

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At a dinner earlier this week, a Fund I GP shared how she had recently hosted her first AGM (annual general meeting). Of which, she spent a few hundred dollars to plan the whole thing. She called in favors on venue. Sponsors to cover food. And the only thing I believe she spent money on were gifts for her LPs. For comparison, when I caught up with a firm with 10+ active funds, they said they spend about $2M on their annual summit.

For the uninitiated, the annual summit or AGM is typically the event VC firms hold once a year for their investors, as well as for their portfolio to recap the year and share what’s next. I won’t go too deep here, but for those curious, I wrote a post last week on this.

Naturally, I had to tip my hat off. Not only is hosting a large event like an AGM time-consuming, to minimize the damage to one’s wallet to only a few hundred is a Herculean feat. And yes, she single-handedly pulled it off. While I wasn’t there myself, A+ for executional discipline.

One of three kinds of discipline that LPs expect of GPs. What are the three?

  1. Entry discipline
  2. Exit discipline
  3. Executional discipline

The three E’s.

Did I force myself to find three words that start with E’s that fit? I’m glad you noticed. Originally, called it: investing discipline, exit discipline, and operational discipline. But I digress.

Let me elaborate.

Entry discipline is all about what and how you invest. It’s the one GPs talk about the most. While it is important – one of the three legs of the stool, it’s not the only one that matters. Nevertheless, it’s a bet on the investor.

These include:

  • Entry prices (pre-money versus post-money valuation)
  • Ownership on entry
  • Sourcing / picking / winning
  • Due diligence process (references, legal diligence, tech diligence, operational diligence, etc.)
  • Prepared mind
  • Terms of investment (you’d be surprised the number of
  • Pro rata rights, and drag along, and right of first refusal (ROFR)
  • Information rights
  • Portfolio governance (board versus board observer seats)

In the words of Renaissance’s Jeff Rinvelt, “the one that wasn’t baked in for a lot of these firms was the exit manager – the ones that help you sell. […] If you don’t have it, there should be somebody that it’s their job to look at exits.”

Exit discipline is all about how you think about portfolio construction on a broader sense. And of course, how and when to exit positions. It’s the one LPs care about most in a liquidity-starved environment. It matters especially so for venture that’s known for long illiquidity periods. Still matters for buyouts and other assets, but those have shorter time horizons. When am I going to get my money back? Is there a plan? And while mileage will always vary fund to fund, are you at least primed to react when there are opportunities? Will it be consistent or will you suffer from opportunistic whiplash? It’s a bet on the fund manager. Or really in Jeff’s words, the exit manager.

These include:

  • Strategy on when AND how to sell. Simply, how much upside to cap to protect your downside.
  • Proactive and explicit communication on fund lifespan and extensions
  • Relationships with secondary buyers
  • Recycling
  • Early distributions (after the recycling period)
  • Enterprise value to breakeven. To 3X. To 5X.
  • The exit manager, if applicable

To quote the amazing Ashby Monk, “the difference between your gross return and your net return is an investment in their organization.” In other words, executional discipline is a bet on the team. Is the team uniquely positioned to scale execution? Are they incentivized in the long-term to do the right thing for both founders and LPs? How is knowledge passed down?

These include:

  • Fees on capital committed versus capital deployed
  • Fund expenses (travel, meals, hotels, fund admin, legal, accounting, etc.)
  • Talent
  • Events, AGMs, brand-building exercises
  • Content engine, if one pays for such
  • GP salaries
  • Culture (deal attribution, short and long-term incentive plans, manifestos, succession planning, promotions, vesting schedules, etc.)
  • Carry
  • Reporting (Monthly, quarterly, or annually. It doesn’t matter which, just stick to it. Be consistent.)
  • Valuation Policy / Marks (FYI, SAFEs and convertible notes are not marks. But also, if a portfolio company is overvalued, what’s your valuation policy?)
  • LP Advisory Committee (LPAC)
  • LP Agreement (LPA) / Subscription Agreement
  • Capital calls
  • Cybersecurity policy / Information policy (Who gets access to what information?)
  • Compliance / PR

Obviously, as your track record and returns grow and speak for themselves, you accumulate a new type of currency in the karmic bank account: trust. You should always never exceed your means to pay. That your credit balance never exceeds your debit, but you undeniably have a greater credit line to operate the institution.

To simplify…

Entry DisciplineExit DisciplineExecutional Discipline
The betThe bet on the investorThe bet on the
fund manager
The bet on the
team

Note that for an emerging fund, these three disciplines are expected of the same individual. In many ways, much harder than if you had a fully staffed team.

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The Holiday Special | Nakul Mandan and Ben Choi | Superclusters | S4PSE1

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“VC is more about the ground game than the air game.” – Nakul Mandan

“Entrepreneurs think it’s going to be like the Michael Keaton version, and the good ones, they actually have to work through the Christopher Nolan version of Batman.” – Ben Choi

Nakul Mandan is the founder of Audacious Ventures. Audacious is a seed stage venture firm managing ~$250M. Audacious’ foundational belief is that ultimately startup success comes down to two key ingredients: Large markets and A+ teams. Accordingly, the Audacious team focuses on two jobs: 1/ Invest in force of nature founders; 2/ Help them recruit an A+ team. Then they get out of the way. Prior to founding Audacious, Nakul was a GP at Lightspeed.

Some of the companies Nakul has backed over the last decade include: Gainsight, People.ai, WorkOS, Multiverse, Marketo, 6Sense, BuildingConnected, Vartana, Tezi and Maxima, amongst others.

You can find Nakul on his socials here:
X / Twitter: https://x.com/nakul
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nakulmandan/
Personal Website: https://www.nakulmandan.com/

Ben Choi manages over $3B investments with many of the world’s premier venture capital firms as well as directly in early stage startups. He brings to Next Legacy a distinguished track record spanning over two decades founding and investing in early-stage technology businesses. Ben’s love for technology products formed the basis for his successful venture track record, including early stage investments in Marketo (acquired for $4.75B) and CourseHero (last valued at $3.6B). He previously ran product for Adobe’s Creative Cloud offerings and founded CoffeeTable, where he raised venture capital financing, built a team, and ultimately sold the company.

Ben is an engaged member of the Society of Kauffman Fellows and has been named to the Board of Directors for the San Francisco Chinese Culture Center and Children’s Health Council. Ben studied Computer Science at Harvard University before Mark Zuckerberg made it cool and received his MBA from Columbia Business School. Born in Peoria, raised in San Francisco, and educated in Cambridge, Ben now lives in Palo Alto with his wife, Lydia, and three very active sons.

You can find Ben on his socials here:
X / Twitter: https://x.com/benjichoi
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bchoi/

And huge thanks to this episode’s sponsor, Alchemist Accelerator: https://alchemistaccelerator.com/superclusters

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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[04:14] Why is Nakul fascinated by Batman?
[06:41] Does entrepreneurial motivation often come from inspiration or frustration?
[10:33] Nakul’s childhood and early upbringing
[14:37] How Nakul grew from introvert to extrovert
[16:19] Did Ben see the ambition in Nakul from the day they first met?
[18:19] How did Ben’s parents’ work in Chinatown influence Ben as a teenager?
[22:47] How did Ben and Nakul meet?
[28:50] Would Nakul have raised in 2020 if he knew how hard it would be?
[33:49] Why did Next Legacy not invest in Fund I, but in Fund II?
[37:49] How did Nakul react to the pass on Fund I?
[39:56] The kinds of people at Next Legacy’s dinners
[43:49] Why Audacious kept a low profile in 2021
[49:01] Why Audacious deployed Fund I over 4 years, instead of 3
[51:46] Balancing the paradox of one of Audacious’ cultural values
[55:14] The difference between pitching individuals and institutions
[1:00:42] What is it like to be married to an interior designer?
[1:02:40] Nakul’s favorite coffee shop, bar, and restaurant
[1:05:56] What makes a sock special to Ben?
[1:07:17] Why does Ben still like venture?
[1:08:10] Why does Nakul still like venture?
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“The risk is slow failure. And actually that’s the worst kind of failure even for entrepreneurs that we back. They’re all talented people. Some ideas work; some don’t. It’s when they end up spending seven, eight years and then it doesn’t work. Then it takes out seven, eight years of their life.” – Nakul Mandan

“Entrepreneurs think it’s going to be like the Michael Keaton version, and the good ones, they actually have to work through the Christopher Nolan version of Batman.” – Ben Choi

“If you don’t wear ambition on your sleeve, how do people know you’re ambitious?” – Nakul Mandan

“VC is more about the ground game than the air game.” – Nakul Mandan

“Always remember there’s a human on the other side of every conversation.” – Nakul Mandan

“The thing about working with self-motivated people and driven people, on their worst day, they are pushing themselves very hard and your job is to reduce the stress in that conversation.” – Nakul Mandan

“If you have an understated personality, wear something really bright.” – Ben Choi


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LPs Should Get Paid More | Ashby Monk | Superclusters | S4E5

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“Innovation everywhere, but especially in the land of pensions, endowments, and foundations, is a function of courage and crisis.” – Ashby Monk

Dr. Ashby Monk is currently a Senior Research Engineer, School of Engineering at Stanford University and holds the position of Executive Director of the Stanford Research Initiative on Long-Term Investing.

Ashby has more than 20 years of experience studying and advising investment organizations. He has authored multiple books and published 100s of research papers on institutional investing. His latest book, The Technologized Investor, won the 2021 Silver Medal from the Axiom Business Book Awards in the Business Technology category.

Outside of academia, Ashby has co-founded several companies that help investors make better investment decisions, including Real Capital Innovation (acquired by Addepar), FutureProof, GrowthsphereAI, Long Game Savings (acquired by Truist), NetPurpose, D.A.T.A., SheltonAI, and ThirdAct. He is co-founder and managing partner of KDX, a venture capital firm focused on investment technologies.

He is a member of the CFA Institute’s Future of Finance Advisory Council and was named by CIO Magazine as one of the most influential academics in the institutional investing world. He received his Doctorate in Economic Geography at the University of Oxford, holds a Master’s in International Economics from the Université de Paris I – Pantheon Sorbonne, and has a Bachelor’s in Economics from Princeton University.

You can find Ashby on his socials here:
X / Twitter: https://x.com/sovereignfund
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashby-monk-208a479/

And huge thanks to this episode’s sponsor, Alchemist Accelerator: https://alchemistaccelerator.com/superclusters

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also watch the episode on YouTube here.

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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[03:44] “I don’t know what to do with my hands”
[04:44] The origin story of Ashby’s LinkedIn skills
[09:04] Ashby’s obsession with the worst title out there
[12:54] Titles at institutional investment firms
[17:05] Building the right incentives for institutional LPs
[20:54] The decision to buy or build for pension funds
[22:36] What’s a smart way to think about the difference of gross and net?
[23:17] When are management fees not justified?
[26:06] When managers charge fees on SPVs
[28:12] When are GPs still grateful for your LP capital?
[29:40] Challenges with the endowment model in PE and VC
[31:14] Why LPs misrepresent what budget fees come out of
[35:28] Compensation structure of a pension fund
[37:59] CalPERS compensation structure
[39:19] The highest paid employees in government jobs
[42:39] Traits of an incredibly talented investor
[47:06] Hire hard, manage light
[51:07] Ashby’s journey into the LP space
[56:05] Why should a young professional work at a pension
[1:00:24] Who outside of investments influences the way Ashby thinks about investing?
[1:02:28] What is organic finance?
[1:07:08] The post-credit scene
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“The fastest way to become a billionaire in America today is to set up an alternative investment firm and manage pension capital. Literally. That’s the fastest path. Faster than starting a tech company.” – Ashby Monk

“Many pension plans, especially in America, put blinders on. ‘Don’t tell me what I’m paying my external managers. I really want to focus and make sure we’re not overpaying our internal people.’ And so then it becomes, you can’t ignore the external fees because the internal costs and external fees are related. If you pay great people internally, you can push back on the external fees. If you don’t pay great people internally, then you’re a price taker.” – Ashby Monk

“You need to realize that when the managers tell you that it’s only the net returns that matter. They’re really hoping you’ll just accept that as a logic that’s sound. What they’re hoping you don’t question them on is the difference between your gross return and your net return is an investment in their organization. And that is a capability that will compound in its value over time. And then they will wield that back against you and extract more fees from you, which is why the alternative investment industry in the world today is where most of the profits in the investment industry are captured and captured by GPs.” – Ashby Monk

“[LPs] want to solve the problem for their sponsor by reducing the cost of a promise.” – Ashby Monk

“Innovation everywhere, but especially in the land of pensions, endowments, and foundations, is a function of courage and crisis.” – Ashby Monk

“The highest people paid in state jobs are football coaches.” – Ashby Monk

“I often tell pensions you should pay people at the 49th percentile. So, just a bit less than average. So that the people going and working there also share the mission. They love the mission ‘cause that actually is, in my experience, the magic of the culture in these organizations that you don’t want to lose.” – Ashby Monk

“The job of an investor is to look at the same data that you and I are looking at, and be ready to make a different conclusion. That’s how you outperform.” – Ashby Monk

“Hire hard; manage light.” – Ashby Monk

“The way best practices are communicated in this industry is through role models. So, Yale model, Canadian model, Norway model… There are no schools of investing. […] And the way models emerge is you get an innovation that results in outperformance.” – Ashby Monk

“I do research projects on nothing.” – Ashby Monk on research into solutions that don’t exist in the world yet

“There are two types of innovation. There’s innovation as an invention. And there’s discovery. And a lot of what I do is discover and apply.” – Ashby Monk


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Listening to the Heartbeat of the Market | David York | Superclusters | S4E4

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“Markets have a mind of their own.” – David York

David York’s thirty plus years of industry knowledge and networks uniquely equip him to be a liaison and international ambassador not only for Top Tier’s brand, but also the broader venture community. In 2000, David joined Phil Paul to lead the fund of funds team at Paul Capital, which spun out in 2011 to form Top Tier.

David has been active in the global venture capital community since the early 1990s. As a founder of Top Tier, he has led the development of the Firm for over twenty years and has been involved in every aspect of it. His involvement in the industry has led him to participate in numerous industry events and conferences, and also the NVCA, where he is an active board member. David led the fund of funds business at Paul Capital Partners, before spinning it out and founding Top Tier. Prior to Paul Capital, David spent seventeen years on Wall Street running various trading desks. In 1999, he was Managing Director at Chase H&Q, where he ran Equity Capital Markets liquidity, and from 1994 to 1999 he ran Venture Services for Hambrecht & Quist, a San Francisco-based, technology-focused investment bank acquired by Chase Bank.

You can find David on his socials here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-york-2407295/

And huge thanks to this episode’s sponsor, Alchemist Accelerator: https://alchemistaccelerator.com/superclusters

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also watch the episode on YouTube here.

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OUTLINE:

[00:00] Intro
[02:52] David York’s role models over the years
[07:06] Is the LP model broken?
[11:34] What David would like to see in private markets
[15:27] How did David raise $500M in the dotcom crash
[23:09] Breaking down when large LPs are ready to be pitched
[25:37] What does a thoughtful email look like?
[28:40] The liquidity needs of different kinds of LPs
[33:29] David’s favorite restaurant in Tokyo
[36:41] David’s secret starter dough recipe
[40:13] Secret post-credit scene
[40:46] Thank you to Alchemist Accelerator for sponsoring!
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“Markets have a mind of their own.” – David York

“If you look at venture capital investments in general, partnership agreements are too short.” – David York

“Going to see accounts before budgets are set helps get your brand and your story in the mind of the budget setter. In the case of the US, budgets are set in January and July, depending on the fiscal year. In the case of Japan, budgets are set at the end of March, early April. To get into the budget for Tokyo, you gotta be working with the client in the fall to get them ready to do it for the next fiscal year. [For] Korea, the budgets are set in January, but they don’t really get executed on till the first of April. So there’s time in there where you can work on those things. The same thing is true with Europe. A lot of budgets are mid-year. So you develop some understanding of patterns. You need to give yourself, for better or worse if you’re raising money, two to three years of relationship-building with clients.” – David York

“To me, rejection is simply ‘not now,’ not a ‘no.’” – David York

DZ: “What do most GPs, or first-time LPs, fail to appreciate?”
DY: “The exit.”


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