A while back, I stumbled across this question by Siqi Chen while doomscrolling through Twitter, and I couldn’t help but do a double take on it. It’s something I often worry that I miss when founders or GPs pitch me, but also when I hostfireside chats. I worry in my myopia with hitting an agenda of questions, I may miss the most important part about the person sitting across from me. In any interview setting, interviewers always have a pre-destination in mind. And often it’s the onus of the interviewee to alter that flow if a dam is restricting the power of the torrent. In other words, your strength. It’s why I ask, “Are there any questions you have yet to be asked, but wish someone were to ask you?” But I like Siqi’s way of asking it a lot more.
After 20 years of interviewing candidates, I've found this to be the single most useful interview question:
"What is your greatest strength … that you are most worried about not coming across in an interview setting?"
Take ambition as a strength, for example. Really hard to tell by just looking at a resume, especially one who says they are and someone who actually is.
At the same time, there’s a beautiful line that the late Ingvar Kamprad, best known for founding IKEA, once wrote. “Making mistakes is the privilege of the active — of those who can correct their mistakes and put them right.” And that’s okay, in fact heavily encouraged for anyone who has ambitions. Because in order to achieve the extraordinary, you cannot pursue the ordinary. You have to tread where no one has treaded before. And a lagging indicator of that is the number of mistakes and scar tissue you’ve collected over the years. So, in an interview, to best illustrate your ambition, you have to talk about the lessons you’ve learned to get here. The greater the mistake, the more risk you took. And often times, the greater the ambition.
Kevin Kellyalso said recently, “I’d like to give a little story of a car, and you need to have brakes on the car to steer the car. But the engine is actually the more important element, and so there are people and there are organizations, and there are methods that are going to be doing the braking, and I think they’re essential. I want brakes in the car, but I just feel that the brake can overwhelm and cause stagnation, and that we also wanted to remember to focus on making the engine even stronger, and so I emphasized the engine.”
In an interview, it’s the difference between promotion and prevention questions. As Dana Kanzeonce shared, ““A promotion focus is concerned with gains and emphasizes hopes, accomplishments, and advancement needs, while a prevention focus is concern with losses and emphasizes safety, responsibility, and security needs.” As such, in an interview, you want to channel your energy to being asked at least one promotion question that highlights your strength.
Conversely, as I’m writing this right after reading Chris Neumann‘s most recent post on fake FOMO, creating a fake sense of urgency is one of the best ways to ensure your greatest strength won’t come out during the interview.
Today’s just a short blogpost. Just to say I’m a fan of Siqi, one of the greatest masters of storytelling, and this question. In case, you’re looking for more Siqi content, check out here and here.
The DGQ series is a series dedicated to my process of question discovery and execution. When curiosity is the why, DGQ is the how. It’s an inside scoop of what goes on in my noggin’. My hope is that it offers some illumination to you, my readers, so you can tackle the world and build relationships with my best tools at your disposal. It also happens to stand for damn good questions, or dumb and garbled questions. I’ll let you decide which it falls under.
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It’s not every day one gets to sit down and experience a Chinese tea ceremony under a late afternoon Los Altos sun. Sitting across from me was a gentleman in a white tee who moonlighted as a tea connoisseur. As such, he was in the middle of passionately describing to me what was some of the best tea I’ve had to date.
“David, smell this blend three times. You’ll realize that each breath you take will smell completely different from the last.”
To my bewilderment, he was right.
As I handed the teapot back to him, he continued, “Now the first pour you always pour out. Here, we are just washing the tea leaves. But we use this opportunity to also coat the insides of your teacup with the flavors of this next tea.”
True to his word, he awakened the inner mold of my cup with the smoky liquid infused by leaves that had been aged longer than I’ve been alive. Then poured the first pour back onto the teapot with the lid on, creating a wet seal around the teapot. As a result, the leaves were washed. The aromas are concentrated in the pot. And the cup has been given time to get to know the tea.
When, finally, the teacup landed back in my hands, I could taste the unfiltered, rich, smoky, yet mellow aroma of a Wu Yi Shui Xian tea.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d never have guessed his “day” job was being an investor. Specifically, a pre-seed and seed deep tech investor.
Of course, you’re smart. Given the title of this blogpost, you didn’t come here to read about the intricacies of drinking tea. But about the intricacies of deep tech, which in the process of editing this piece, I realize deep tech happens to have the same initials as drinking tea. But that’s not only stretching it, but I digress.
The fine gentleman who sat across from me in a white tee, his name is Arkady Kulik, Co-Founding Partner of rpv, a fund dedicated to backing early-stage scientifically intensive teams. In other words, deep tech. Currently, the industry itself is highly fragmented. In Arkady’s words, “it’s like investing in IT in the 80s. But they’re all ventures that can completely reshape the landscape.”
As Arkady continued, he shared something else quite fascinating. “In software, you’re looking at a high market risk and low technological risk. In deep tech, it’s the exact opposite. We have a low market risk and high technological risk. The problem is not whether they can sell this to people, but rather whether they can build it.”
Naturally, as someone who spends little time looking into the deep tech world week to week, I had to double click on that. What followed was a conversation where I found myself wishing I could take notes faster.
Smelling the tea leaves
As a non-technical person, the biggest question for me has always been: How do you evaluate a deep tech deal?
To Arkady, it’s the entry point in price as a function of Technology Readiness Level. TRL, for short.
Source: rpv’s Investor Deck (and yes, Arkady gave me permission to share this)
“TRL is actually something that the team at NASA came up with. NASA has always had a lot of internal projects, and they needed some internal tool to evaluate the readiness of those projects.
“It was developed in the 1970s, but was formalized in the decade after. One through three on the TRL scale is all theory. They’re largely funded by the government through grants and such. Seven through nine on the scale is commercial, and covered by generalist VCs. Everything in between is in some form of a product development process. That’s where we come in.
Source: rpv’s Deck, citing NASA TRL levels
“To get the graph above, we take TRL levels on the X-axis and the historical round size data on the Y-axis. Then we looked at every single company, took the lowest and highest round in each vertical within deep tech, and mapped it out.”
While every firm’s “blue box” is different — and after learning about this, I do encourage every deep tech firm to go through such an exercise, rpv’s sweet spot is companies leveraging technologies TRL 3-6 whose round is shy of $1.5 million.
The first pour: Tea meets cup
After passing through the smell test, the first question Arkady tries to answer is always: Is it BS? “I look at every deck myself. No analyst. No associate.”
After Arkady looks at the deck, he then sends it to his team. “They give me one of three scores: green, yellow, or red. If it’s positive — meaning either green or yellow, I take the first meeting. We have 12 deal breakers, ranging everything from lack of ability to protect IP (it’s why we don’t do software deals) to tech, finance, or team conflicts of interest. If any of us in diligence raise a flag, we don’t continue. If not, we ask specific questions to the team.”
When meeting with the team, the question of founder resilience always comes up. Of course, every investor measures grit differently. I ask about excellence and scar tissue, but I was deeply curious as to what Arkady asks for.
“I try to gauge it from learning about founders’ past experiences (not necessarily professional ones),” he goes on, “I dig deeper on tough situations a founder has faced. Also proposing hypothetical scenarios about their fundraising or team dynamics help a lot in understanding that facet.”
Without a beat, I follow up, “For that, do you have any go-to questions?”
“Nothing formal. I try to find an experience in someone’s past that could be good grounds for showing resilience: competitive sports, PhD, previous startups, complicated and long-term projects in the corporation or something like that.
“For the hypothetical scenarios, I ask things like ‘What if you won’t gather the round?’ Or ‘What if your co-founder absolutely had to resign, what’s your action plan in the bus factor case?’
“It’s an area where you look at how they react, not just what they say. How does their body language change when they’re answering the question. It’s about the non-verbal signals. ‘Tell us an experience in the past and things didn’t go your way, and things were dragging.’ Was it when you applied to college? Or went for your PhD? Or when you were trying to go on a date with someone you liked?’
“Resilient people usually have some kind of Plan B. People who don’t have another plan and still try the same thing again and again are stubborn. We don’t seek stubbornness in entrepreneurs. We look for their ability to be honest with themselves and other people.”
The second pour: Tasting the depth
“If there are no red flags after meeting the founders, then we move into scientific due diligence. We ask everything from deep scientific questions (on isotopes or wavelengths) to the feasibility of the product — essentially a peer review on a paper by our internal, but also external scientists and advisors. The latter to get a truly unbiased opinion.
“Then we do a deeper diligence process with a scorecard of 35 items from team composition to their stage of development to their ability to protect IP to the availability of competition, each rated twice. Once by myself, and another by our advisors and venture partners. Then we average the points out for each of the 35 items and compare against our thresholds. If it’s a green light, we make an investment decision. If yellow, we follow up with the target venture’s team to see if they have a good answer to our concerns. And if not, then we say no. If red, well, we also say no. Though we have yet to give a red final score after using the scorecard since they’ve all died during the extensive due diligence process.”
In our conversation, which eventually migrated to Zoom (with some people, you just never run out of things to ask), I postulated about the variability in venture firms using scorecards. There are strong reasons why you should or shouldn’t from both sides of the aisle. Both of which have generated great returns for their LPs.
Today, many of the top tier venture firms make outlier decisions based on gut. It’s the same reason why generational or succession planning at these top firms are so hard. Once the GP leaves or retires, the next generation have a hard time making the same investment decisions as the previous generations.
On the scorecard end of the spectrum, hedge funds are, by definition, firms who employ algorithmic discipline to generate alpha. On the venture side, you have Correlation Ventures, SignalFire, just to name a few. Seven years back, Social Capital’s Capital-as-a-Service, just to name a few. The last of which seemed to have been deprecated due to the inability to scale support for a portfolio of 500 startups, rather than the inefficacy of their “scorecard.” As you might suspect, a topic I’m quite fascinated about.
“We make our decisions based on scorecards,” Arkady reaffirmed, “And if you were to look at each one we’ve done, you’ll see that it’s rare that our team sees eye to eye. We disagree a lot. It’s an individual decision and we take it. And we never try to convince the other to change their score. We trust each other to give a score we believe in. For advisors, since we have many, we take the average of all their opinions. We also ask different advisors for each item on the scorecard. Some advisors are excellent in one area, but might not be fluent in another.
“The final thing I’ll say is that when something feels off, we say no. Even if the data shows green, but we’re unsure about the validity of the data, we still pass. One of the best pieces of advice I got around hiring is if you’re not sure about a hire, pass. It’s the same with investing.”
For Arkady, that is the weapon of their choice.
In closing
Between three calls and a tea ceremony, even then, we only touched the tip of the iceberg. One I’m likely to have many more questions for Arkady and my other friends who live and breathe in this space. It’s an exciting space. To be fair, even calling it all just one space is an understatement. It’s a permutation of many that’ll be segmented when the broader investment community starts to understand them all better. Myself included.
Looking forward to it all, and appreciate you, Arkady, for all the back and forth edits, lessons, and the tea!
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As those close to me know, over the past few weeks, I’ve been knee-deep in some new projects. Projects I haven’t been this excited to produce in a long while. One of which is around experiences.
At the same time, as friends and long-time readers of this humble blog know, I am no stranger to the world of socialexperimentsandexperiences. I still don’t have a great catch-all term for it. They’re not just another set of “events.” Events just remind me of the same conference, fireside chat, or happy hour playbook. But I try to take my events a step further. So, naturally, given my fascination around building experiences, I walk hand-in-hand with both psychological research and game design. The former of which I share a bit more in previous blogposts than the latter.
So, I’m going to dedicate this essay to three of the lessons I picked up in the latter.
Create experiences that optimize for people who know no one else there.
Don’t confuse complexity with depth.
A great event is great not due to the event itself, but because of the story one gets to tell again and again.
1. Create experiences that optimize for people who know no one else there.
I had always had this somewhere in the back of my head. To design experiences where no one was ever left out. But when I caught up with a friend recently in New York, he codified it into what it is today. As someone who runs a design studio that builds immersive experiences in New York, he spends most of his time building experiences for strangers. And while friends may visit his exhibits together, the vast majority of his attendees do not know anyone else.
Take, for example, happy hours. Most happy hours aren’t designed for the person who knows no one. Usually the event itself is fairly laissez-faire. Most of which, the hosts don’t actively try to connect attendees. And so if you show up at a happy hour and the host is too busy to intro you to anyone, unless you’re an outgoing person, you’re likely standing near the edges, hoping to jump into a conversation if any group will let you. This often leads to events where people leave early and form cliques. It also optimizes for early birds, rather than the fashionably late.
Tactically, it’s creating excuses for people to jump in conversation. While not a problem for outgoing individuals, I need to empower everyone, including shy introverts, with tools to start conversations, where I and/or the experience shoulder the initial responsibility and blame to start conversations. That could be with customized fortune cookies where one is supposed to read their fortune to someone else. Or empowering people with a mission or an ask greater than themselves. For instance, to over-simplify it a bit, “I’m trying to put together a small group of everyone who’s wearing glasses tonight. Do you mind helping me find out all the names of the guests who are wearing glasses?” Or “I’m trying to resolve a debate with my co-host. Pineapples or no pineapples on pizza. I’m all for pineapples, but she isn’t. Can you help me find more allies?”
2. Don’t confuse complexity with depth.
This is unfortunately a fallacy I often find myself spiraling down the longer I’m given to ponder. And I lose myself in intellectual complexity.
Many years ago when a couple friend and I first decided to host an escape room in a mansion over three days and two nights, the greatest question we had was: How do we create an immersive experience over multiple days? And retain that level of immersion throughout? I thought, hell, what if we created a brand new language for the event. One that all guests would have to learn and practice throughout the event. We’d ease them in slowly, but the biggest puzzle could only be solved through adequate mastery in this new language. This easily gave me the greatest injection of dopamine when planning for the event. And I went deep, talking with linguistic professors, studying how Tolkien created Quenya, and how Cameron and Paul Frommer created the Na’vi language.
It was truly interesting to me and to many of my friends. But unfortunately, through user testing, to most others, while interesting to hear its backstory, was not fun to practice. I had ended up developing it to a level to where it departed from its English roots to resembling language of Scandinavian origin. Because of its complexity and how there were more guests who were English speakers than speakers of this new language, immersion broke almost instantaneously.
The great Mark Rosewateronce definedinteresting as intellectual stimulation and fun as emotional stimulation. While they’re not mutually exclusive, it’s important to not confuse the two.
There’s a great Maya Angelou line that I, like many others, like to reference. “People will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.” And it is no less true for gamified designs. Emotional satisfaction often runs deeper and longer than intellectual satisfaction. The former has a greater chance of becoming a “core memory,” to borrow from the brilliant minds behind Pixar’s Inside Out, than the latter.
I was lucky to learn this lesson from one of the greatest designers of card games alive today. It was on a call earlier this year, where I was telling him about all the awesome bells and whistles I was planning on implementing for an upcoming experience. And I asked what he thought. To which, he responded: “Kill all complexity. Complexity is not a substitute for depth. Rely on your audience for depth. The more borders, the harder it is enjoy. Too few, it’s chaotic. Find the absolute minimum number of borders.”
The goal of creating systems is to create opportunities for serendipity. To create opportunities where people can dive deep. Not to force people to take the plunge when they may not be ready.
His advice just happens to rhyme with a quote I’ve always kept somewhere in the back of my mind, but now sits on the wall above my PC.
“Your ability to solve problems with magic in a satisfying way is directly proportional to how well the reader understands said magic.” — Sanderson’s First Law of Magic
3. A great event is great not due to the event itself, but because of the story one gets to tell again and again.
Under the ambiance of MarieBelle, which I still so fondly remember the moment my friend told me this, she said, “A great event is great not due to the event itself, but because of the story one gets to tell again and again.” It’s the truest definition of surprising and delighting. She was someone who used to work on the Dreamweavers team at Eleven Madison Park when Will Guidara was still there. As such the above lesson was a page out of Will Guidara‘s book Unreasonable Hospitality, whose best known for how intentionally he took front of the house hospitality at 11 Madison Park, one of the greatest restaurants in the world. 4 stars on New York Times, and 3 Michelin stars. He also happened to be the person who conceived the Dreamweavers team there. Just to give you an idea of how seriously they take their roles…
First off, the core of the event itself — the meat, the protein — has to be great. If it’s a tofu burger, it better be a damn well-marinated fat slice of egg tofu, double-fried to perfection. To Malcolm Gladwell, that’s the meal.
And only once you have it all, what’s the cherry on top? What’s the candy? Why would people want to talk about it? For events, that’s:
Delivering surprises — gifts and/or experiences they do not expect
Transferrable pieces of knowledge — insights, frameworks, or trivia knowledge that are useful even after the event
Meeting great people WITH great stories — “Did you know that [so-and-so] did X?” And for this to happen not just opportunistically but at scale, finding ways to help people share stories of vulnerability or of adventures that have yet to grace any public media is key. The easiest way is through questions. The slightly harder way is through a set of triggers where it makes sharing such a story natural.
In closing
I am, as always, a work-in-progress. And with the events I’ll continue to host this year, I’m going to learn more. And in time, be able to share more of my lessons, trials, and tribulations in this journey. In hopes, this will aid or inspire you on your path.
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Earlier this week, I grabbed coffee with a founder. Let’s call him “Elijah.” He recently lost a key exec he’d been working with for two years to their incumbent competitor. The competitor’s offer happened to be too good to turn down. Triple the exec’s salary. As that exec had a family to feed and children’s education that didn’t come cheap, he made the hard decision to leave. Needless to say, Elijah was devastated. And he asked,
“David, what should I have done?”
I initially thought it was rhetorical. It seemed that way. But he paused, looked at me, and waited.
So I responded.
My response
I’ll preface by saying that the advice I shared with him was a collection of insights I learned from mentors over the years — some a lot more recently than others. I don’t hold all the keys to the castle. And every situation is, well, situational. So the last thing I wanted was for the founder to take my advice as the word of god (nor anyone reading this blogpost now). Merely a tool in the toolkit. At times, useful. Other times, just something that acts as décor in the shed.
“Elijah, it’s probably too late for that exec… for now. He’s made his decision and walked. That said, I think there are two things to be aware of here:
The fact you didn’t know about this until it happened, and
The decision itself.”
Pre-empting the ultimatum
For the former, here’s how I think about pre-empting your team’s career inflections.
In their first week, have everyone put together their personal manifesto. What is their 6 month goal? 1 year? 5 years? 10 years? Lifetime goal? What motivates them? How do they like to give and receive feedback? Of course, it’s helpful to share your own first, so they have a reference point. Don’t expect anything you’re not willing to share first. So, naturally, this requires a level of transparency, and more importantly, vulnerability.
Then within the first two weeks, you and their direct manager should review their manifesto with them for at least 30 minutes live. Really get to know them. Taking a page out of Steven Rosenblatt’s book, what drives them? What haven’t they achieved that they want to achieve? How do they do their best work? When do they feel the most motivated? Why did they want to work here? Why are they excited to do so? How does working at your company fit in their broader goal?
Then every quarter, allow every team member one day of mindfulness away from their work to revisit their manifesto. I usually recommend a Friday. What’s changed? What’s stayed the same? Does their current role still fit in their broader goal? If not, why not?
The week after, take time to sync again and be incredibly candid.
Of course, the above is easier to do if you have a company of less than 50. At some point, when your company scales past that, it’s at least helpful to do it with your direct reports and their direct reports.
Helping with the decision
For the latter, you can’t stop a river. Even if you build a dam, the flow will always find a way around. You can’t change what motivates someone else. But you can help them channel it. The best thing you can do is equip that person with the tools to make a decision they will not regret, and wish them the best.
I like to sit people down and first help them figure out why they’re considering a new role. People often conflate the three traits of a job — compensation, scope, and title — together when making a career move. But in truth, they’re similar, but all a bit different. And I want people to know that just because they’re getting paid more doesn’t necessarily mean an increase in responsibility. Just because they’re getting a new title doesn’t mean that they’ll get more money. Then I have them stack rank the three traits. From most to least important.
If they still rank compensation first, that’s fine. Maybe they’re saving to buy a new house or to pay for their child’s higher education. And there’s nothing you nor I can do there. But if it’s one of the other two that come out on top, there’s room to create a new position or set of responsibilities where the individual feels empowered. And if it’s not at your company, they’ll be equipped to think through it at their next company. If they don’t have one lined up yet, help them through your network find one that’ll fit the criteria.
The wonderful irony
The funny thing about helping people achieve their dreams — sometimes that’s actively helping them leave your company — is that the karma usually comes back in one way or another. In this case, and I’ve seen it and experienced it before, even if you lose this person at this time and place, they’ll remember the help you gave them. To which, one day, when they have an all-star friend looking for their next opportunity, they will think of you.
There’s a saying I love. ‘The best compliment an investor can get is to get deal flow from someone they passed on.’ And here, the best compliment you can get is to get talent from someone who left your team.
In closing
Shake Shack’s Danny Meyer recently said something that echoes this notion. While he uses the word “volunteering,” he defines “volunteering” as:
“I basically, to this day, treat all of our employees as if they are volunteers, which not in the real sense. You’re going to get paid. But if you’re working for me, it means you’re probably good enough to have gotten another 25 job offers at least. And so, as far as I’m concerned, you’re volunteering to share your gifts with us.”
He goes on to say, “I didn’t have any way to motivate them with money. I couldn’t give them a raise, couldn’t dock them their pay. So I learned such a crucial lesson, which is that, if someone’s volunteering, the only way to motivate them is to have a higher purpose.”
Of course, there’s more than one way to make a team member feel like they are valued and that they value their work here. Another way is to give your prospective team member a “love bomb”, as Pulley’s Yin Wucalls it.
Give the candidate a love bomb once you're in sell mode.
Offer chats with investors. Get your team to reach out.
Send cake.
Talk to the candidate's partner, sister, kid, etc. Everyone wants to feel appreciated. Do whatever you can to show the person you want them on the team. pic.twitter.com/4pgnOQIO5S
Now I’m not saying that if Elijah did all the above, he’s guaranteed to retain the exec. Who knows? He might have. Might not. For a man with a family and financial needs, it’s a hard ask. But at the minimum, this career move wouldn’t have blind-sided him. And better, he could’ve supported that exec in making that career move.
Just like with your product, your goal with your team is also to catch lightning in a bottle. How do you attract the best talent to work with you? And then, once you are able to, how do you keep them?
With the latter, a big part of it is showing you care.
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The thing is this is the first real recession I’m working in. I entered the workforce something in the midst of one of the longest bull markets in modern history. So, naturally, I had a lot of questions. One of which I asked one of my mentors in VC who’s been through a few cycles late last year. “Are there any leading indicators that foretell when we’re going to get out of a recession? Or when we truly hit rock bottom in a recession?”
And he said something that made complete sense. “When the frequency of mass layoffs, especially from some of America’s largest employers, slows to a halt.”
Since then, every month or so, I check in the number of WARN notices that come in which require companies doing a mass layoff to publicly report a layoff 60 days in advance. For instance, you can find California’s here.
As Chamath Palihapitiya puts it in his 2022 annual letter, “while we believe that most of the multiple contractions in these markets have largely worked their way through the system, we suspect there is still some more room to fall — particularly if the U.S. enters a recession in the coming year.” Since it seems layoff season is yet to pass, it seems wise to buckle in for the longer run.
While friends have asked me when the recession will end, I responded with a simple “I don’t know.” No one does. And while many may make conjectures on the timing, the one thing we can use this free fall for is to build a heat shield.
I really like this one line in Chris Neumann‘s recent blogpost on antifragility. “As great as it sounds for a startup to get stronger when unexpected events occur, I don’t actually think that’s a realistic goal for most companies (it certainly isn’t the case for VC firms). Rather, I think the goal in making antifragile startups should be to minimize the risk and distraction when unexpected events occur, such that the company can continue to make progress while its competitors are panicking and reacting.” One thing’s for sure. The world is host to a plethora of distractions. Something we won’t be in shortage of. With each black swan event, we will only be left with a surplus of attention stealers.
And I’d be presumptuous to say that the best do not get distracted. Rather the best realize when they are and have ways to get back to a focused flow state. Simply put, it’s helpful to play a game of What if? What if this unexpected shock happens? How will I react when my servers get hacked? How do I react when my cash flow is constrained due to an unpredictable event? And in each broad category of What if’s, do you have a way to hedge the risk?
Sometimes, it’s preparing for the unexpected black swan event.
That’s why code is redundant to prevent the fragility of storing it only on one server.
It’s why you should have your cash in multiple bank accounts, with at least one of them being a big 4. A few top firms, including General Catalyst, Greylock, and Redpoint, have also said, “Keep two core operating accounts, each with 3-6 months of cash. Maintain a third account for ‘excess cash’ to be invested in safe, liquid options to generate slightly more income.” All to protect against the downside risk of losing all your money when you put your eggs in one basket.
But when the black swan does hit, prioritization matters even more. When the pandemic hit and Airbnb was between a rock and a hard place, Brian Cheskydescribed it, “We realized not everything mattered. And it was like if you have to go into a house — your house is burning — and if you could only take half the things in your house, what would you take?”
Chamath went on to write in the same letter. “The most alarming consequence in startup-land has been the divide it has created between the management teams who have ‘found religion’ (i.e. made the tough decisions and managed their businesses smartly) and the rest who are trying their best to avoid reality.” And those tough decisions include, “cutting non-core projects, lowering costs, and vastly reducing G&A while getting to profitability [which] is now mandatory — otherwise you will have to face the consequences.” Those same tough decisions set teams up for success in bad times and bear markets.
In closing
Recently on the Tim Ferriss Show, David Deutsch said, “wealth is not a number. […] It is the set of all transformations that you are capable of bringing about.” Similarly, a company’s revenue is not just another number. It is a product of all the miracles that the company willed into existence. Crossing the chasm. Leaping over hurdles.
To take a line out of Nassim Taleb‘s book, “Crucially, if antifragility is the property of all those natural (and complex) systems that have survived, depriving these systems of volatility, randomness, and stressors will harm them. They will weaken, die, or blow up.” We need black swan events to create miracles. And we need miracles to create stronger, more resilient companies.
Trauma strengthens us. You need to bleed to grow scars. You need to feel pain before you grow calluses. The product of each makes one more resilient to pain and injury in the future.
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Whenever I host fireside chats, I always ask three questions before the talk begins, usually a week in advance.
What would make this interview the most memorable one you’ve been a guest for even two years from now?
Are there any topics you don’t want to talk about? Or are sick of talking about?
Are there any questions you have yet to be asked, but wish someone were to ask you?
On top of the above three questions , occasionally, I ask a fourth. Do you have a home run story that has gotten you a standing ovation in the past — privately or publicly?
The goal is simple. Despite hours of research and asking mutuals, sometimes I still can’t find anything that’s humanizing about my guest. And I know for a fact that all humans are imperfect. And that imperfection makes each person relatable. Just like when Neil Gaiman met Neil Armstrong. But recently, I’ve fallen in love with a new way to phrase the fourth question.
What is a story that you’ve told or have yet to tell where you either fight to hold back tears or fight to hold back giggles?
On my flight to New York recently, I watched a movie starring one of my favorite actors in the world, Tom Hanks, which inspired this question. And, subsequently this blogpost. A Man Called Otto. Inspired by Fredrick Backman’s A Man Called Ove. And I’m not ashamed to say, I cried during that movie. While Rotten Tomatoes may not give it the score I think it deserves, it was well-written and well-produced. Through it, I realized that powerful stories are powerful not because of how awesome the protagonist is. But by how relatable their weaknesses are. Their limitations. I’ll give an example… to avoid spoiling the afore-mentioned movie.
Spiderman isn’t awesome because he has mutant powers. He’s awesome because he’s prone to all the emotions and struggles, be it love, bullies at school, a horrible boss, and how he acts out against all of that. Spiderman’s much more relatable than a super billionaire who owns all the gadgets in the world or an alien from another planet. He’s just a kid from Brooklyn. Or Queens, depending on which Spiderman suits your fancy. And as Brandon Sandersononce said, limitations are more interesting than powers. Limitations make us human. And characters who exhibit humanness and still somehow overcome impossible odds are stories that are passed from generation to generation.
That said, storytelling, outside the realm of superpowers, is equally as true. In a world where appearance and social capital goes a long way, trying to be perfect, to look perfect, and to act perfect is a fallacy in the modern era. While we know we’re not perfect, as a society, we continue to strive for perfection.
After watching a lot of movies, and in my free time, watching acting lessons (FYI, would fail as an actor, but still find the craft fascinating.), I’ve learned we don’t cry when watching movies because the characters cry easily. We cry because the character is trying to hold back their tears. And we don’t laugh during a show or a movie because the comedian laughs easily. We laugh even more because they’re trying to hold back their own laughter. The narrators and characters we see are a reflection of who we truly are.
In many ways, if someone cries easily, it relieves the audience of the ability, some artists may call it responsibility, to cry. Someone, the actor or actress or character has diffused the tension already. But if they fight to hold back their tears, holding back the floodgates, we as the audience are more likely to cry in their stead.
Now I say all of this because I find most fireside chats and interviews unrelatable. Now it’s a product of many things. And I genuinely believe a plethora of individuals do have something powerful and insightful to share, but the stage needs to be ready for them. It’s rare for guests to drop some head-turning advice in the first 10 minutes. Which means… it’s up to both the host and the guest to hold the audience’s attention long enough, as well as create enough opportunities for the guest to shine. The above question, in my opinion, does both.
So all in all, going forward, rather than asking for a home run story, I will ask for stories where people are just people. And for stories that mean a tremendous amount to the people telling them. That they have no choice but to let even a little bit of themselves out emotionally.
The DGQ series is a series dedicated to my process of question discovery and execution. When curiosity is the why, DGQ is the how. It’s an inside scoop of what goes on in my noggin’. My hope is that it offers some illumination to you, my readers, so you can tackle the world and build relationships with my best tools at your disposal. It also happens to stand for damn good questions, or dumb and garbled questions. I’ll let you decide which it falls under.
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In an industry that is heavily apprenticeship-driven, the more tactical advice one gets, the faster they grow. Historically, that meant a senior partner taking you under their wing. Or maybe 2-3. While I’ve been lucky to work and learn alongside some of the world’s most exceptional minds in the funding landscape, I’ve always found it helpful to have multiple teachers. Some in the form of books. Others in the form of shorter form content. Tweets. Social posts. Podcasts. And of course, from the insightful conversations that I have weekly. At the same time, in hopes of supporting the growth of others in this industry (such a small world, but it just isn’t helpful enough), this blog has been and will continue to be my vehicle for stewarding information and insights from the best.
Just like in both of my initial pieces of 99 pieces of advice for investors and founders I wrote in April 2022, this will be a continuation and an evolution of the last. While this will cover more of the same topics as last time, like startup investing, pitching to LPs, and fund strategy, I’m personally really excited about the some new categories, like succession planning, tax, and how to think about exiting positions.
And while I do write long form posts most of the time, and have been guilty of well… longerrrrrr form essays (and maybe one day with even more r’s), like this or this… I digress. While I do enjoy long form expositions, some things are best shared without superfluousness.
Most of the advice below captures the essence of a TikTok or Instagram Reel or a YouTube short. Choose your fancy. Many of which answers the age-old podcast question: “If you were to share one piece of advice with your [insert age]-year old self, what would it be?” Or “What advice would you give someone starting their first fund today?“
And now with “new and improved UI” (don’t get too excited, just number count of soundbites in each category), each fall in one of ten categories:
1/ You can’t be in every good deal, but every deal you’re in better be good.
2/ “You’re not defined by your worst investment. All angels will have failures in their portfolio. It’s part of the process.” – Brian Rumao
3/ “The weird thing is when late stage went from the hardest part of venture to the easiest. And that should have been the flag to everybody.” – Jason Lemkin*timestamped May 2022
4/ “The older you get, the younger your mentors should be.” – Samir Kaji
5/ “Your brand is what people say about you when you’re not in the room. It’s their first reaction when they see an email from you in their inbox. You build that brand — or not — with every interaction.” – Chris Fralic
6/ “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” – Winston Churchill
7/ When there’s risk involved, don’t let the outcome determine the quality of your decision. – Andy Rachleff
Investing — Deal flow, theses, diligence
8/ When assessing startups against their incumbents, consider their incumbents’ ability to hire top talent. For instance, if the incumbents are banks that are known for slower logistical and bureaucratic procedures, it’s easy to hire the best talent out there. On the other hand, if the incumbents are Coinbase, that’s still a fairly young, sexy company that’s innovating quickly, hiring top (technical) talent is more challenging. Shared by a former executive and founder with 2 exits, turned fund manager with 2 funds.
9/ If you’re not getting a call from a founder when they’re in trouble, you’re probably not getting a call from a founder when they’re raising their next big round. – Zach Coelius
10/ Pick great market inflection points to bet on. “The founder is the surfer. The product is the surfboard. The market is the wave. The wave matters most.” If you bet on a good surfer on a bad wave, they’re not going to get you the returns you want. Some Sequoia partner.
11/ Ask for investor updates (before investing). Before you invest, ask for the most recent investor updates. Helps you understand how founders think and communicate. – Brian Rumao
12/ Align with the founders, but also employees on valuations and dilution. – Nikhil Basu Trivedi
13/ The earlier you invest and the more you care about ownership, the more active role you’re expected to take in your portfolio company. You can’t expect to take large ownerships, and not actively help anymore. If you want to be a hands-off investor, you don’t have a right to fight for ownership. In a bull market, founders get picky about who’s on their cap table (as they should be). Focus on your check size to helpfulness (CS:H) ratio. Inspired by Jason Lemkin.
14/ “We have no fear. If we could find God’s phone number, we’d call him.” – David Beirne of Benchmark Capital fame, cited in eBoys. You are never too good to cold-call.
15/ Create a list of your favorite builders (i.e. engineers, community managers, executives, etc.). Then scrape Delaware incorporation docs regularly to see if any on the former list pop up in the search. If so, reach out to them early.
16/ Ask the founders to see different versions of the pitch deck. While we always say, “investors invest in lines, not dots”, oftentimes it’s hard to measure the slope (rather than y-intercept) when you’re meeting only with a founder at the beginning of their fundraise and not sooner. But one way to see is watch how much the pitch decks changed over time (and how quickly the founders incorporated feedback).
17/ Invest in companies that will be timeless. Where there will still be customers in a recession.
18/ If the competitors of the startup are being bought by private equity firms, then it may be a lucrative space to invest into. The competitors’ innovation slows, and optimizing for profit and the balance sheet becomes a priority when PE firms come in. – David Sacks
19/ There is a superpower to be speaking the same native language as the founders you back (and for them to their customers). Try to understand them for their position of strength.
20/ “The market you’re exiting in is not the one you’re funding now.” – Ben Narasin
21/ “There’s another phenomenon that happens in a time like this: Google’s not hiring. Facebook’s not hiring. People are clamping down. Guess what happens to their most advanced projects? They go. And guess who are the best people in any large company? The best people are working on the most advanced projects. They are the ones who want to do visionary things. They’re the fodder entrepreneur for venture capitalists. So I think many more of the best people — not because they’re not getting paid huge raises in compensation — but because they’re working on less interesting projects — will leave to follow their vision.” – Vinod Khosla (timestamped Oct 28, 2022)
23/ “Funny people are really underrated. […] Charismatic leaders are pretty funny. Humor is a really important emotion for two reasons. One is if you can evoke it a lot and be funny, you can create a sense of bonding. Generally speaking, in a remote world, there is a shortage of emotions you feel. An exchange between us now as we stare at each other in our computer monitors is maybe 1/100th of what it would have been in the real world. When you think about it, why do movies succeed? Movies substitute the real world interaction with synthetic emotion. So… horror, humor, action, drama. So you want leaders who can do the same over Zoom. That’s why Peloton instructors have all the jokes that they’re saying. It’s same exact effect.
“But there is a second reason to why humor matters, which is if you were to imagine a Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, I at least find with myself, I’m not able to think of a joke if basic stuff isn’t right. […] You do have to be careful of the ‘court jester’ type. These are people who are so insecure that they’ll do anything to get a [cheap] laugh.” – Daniel Gross. For example, cursing or vulgar jokes or making fun of others are examples of cheap laughter.
24/ For follow-on checks, Founders Fund and Saastr invest 10% of the fund in each of their “winners”. – Jason Lemkin
25/ “Whenever a CEO blames their bad performance on the economy, I knew I had a really crappy CEO. ‘Cause it wasn’t the economy, it was a bad product-market fit. The dogs didn’t wanna eat the dogfood. Sometimes the economy can make that a little worse, but if people are desperate for your product, it doesn’t matter if the times are good or bad, they’re going to buy your product.” – Andy Rachleff
26/ “[Peter Reinhardt] would put plants in different parts of the office in order for the equilibrium of oxygen and CO2 to be the same. He would put noise machines in the perfectly placed areas and then reallocate the types of teams that needed to be by certain types of noise so that the decibel levels were consistent. What I don’t think people realize about founders is that they are maniacal about the details. They are unbelievable about the things that they see.” – Joubin Mirzadegan
Value add
27/ Everyone says they’re a value add investor or founder friendly. And every founder goes through these 10-15 moments in their founder journey from which they lose sleep over. How many of your portfolio founders call you first if shit hits the fan? Those will be who you’re remembered by. No other portfolio founders will remember you.
28/ The network you bring is table stakes. That will neither help you win deals or raise LP capital when it really matters.
29/ “Dirty secret of VC platform teams: they are more about scaling the GP than the founder.” – Sarah Tavel
30/ Are you uniquely positioned to get allocation on the cap table because you can be a value add to these companies? – Vijen Patel
31/ Sometimes the most helpful thing you can do is to say no. When founders ask for introductions, and you don’t think they’re a good fit for your investor network, “It’ll be tough for you to fundraise right now. And if you jump in a conversation now with these other investors, it’ll hurt your ability to fundraise when you finally iron out those 1-2 key metrics and get to that inflection point.”
32/ Before the term sheet is signed, sit down with them and say this. “‘Listen. The chances this company gets to the finish line – the finish line being this fantastic exit – we don’t know what they are. But what I do know is that there is a chance, a high probability, that the company will fail. And I want you to think about this as an opportunity cost. I want you to think about every day you walk in the door to this company or turn on this Zoom as an opportunity cost. If it is not working, I want you to tell me, ‘It’s not working.’ And let’s have just a dispassionate conversation about what that means, so that we don’t waste any more time trying to make it work. And I promise you I will do the same.’
“And if you can set those guidelines from the beginning, you can move onto something that might have better timing. The founder can. And I can. Be aware of what failure looks like.” – Maha Ibrahim
Pitching to LPs
33/ Don’t promise your LPs guaranteed co-investing rights to go directly on the cap table of your portfolio companies. Let the founders decide who gets to invest on their cap tables. – Samir Kaji.
34/ A typical emerging fund takes 1-2 years to raise <$10M. Plan for that timeframe. A fast raise is 6 months. – Elizabeth Yin*timestamped April 2022
35/ To LPs there are 4 main metrics that are of note. Gross and net IRR to show how cash efficient you are, as well as how your portfolio is marked up. TVPI and DPI to show your paper returns and cash you’ve returned to your LPs, respectively. – Chamath Palihapitiya
36/ When you’re pitching institutional LPs (i.e. endowments, pension funds, university investment offices, etc.), you’re bet against 10-year life cycles and portfolio strategies. When benchmarking metrics (i.e. IRRs and TVPIs/DPIs), you have to show you can outperform other asset classes (i.e. real estate) and the public market equivalent (PME). Comparing and contrasting is often the most effective.
37/ When you’re pitching individual LPs (i.e. angels, or “belief capital), largely true for Fund I’s and II’s, it’s about personality and promise. Do people like you? Do you bring in great top of funnel deals? Are you different?
38/ “Don’t run out of leads.” You want to be constantly meeting new investors, ’cause you don’t want to be in a situation where you have to go back and convince people who are clearly not sold. – Elizabeth Yin
39/ If your Fund I consists of mostly individual LPs (i.e. accredited investors, but not qualified purchasers), you’re going to have to fundraise from scratch in Fund II and III. Since they have less of a net worth than institutional LPs, they most likely don’t have the capital to: (a) re-commit for a subsequent fund, (b) and even if they do, they won’t have enough to meet the minimum check size, assuming Fund II/III is bigger than Fund I. Inspired by Elizabeth Yin.
40/ Ask LPs what they like and what they don’t like about the pitch deck, and use each conversation as a learning and refining process.
41/ Figure out how much money you’re capable of raising in Fund I, and raise 25% less. It’s much better to be oversubscribed than suffer from lack of momentum. And leverage the “oversubscription” to help you raise Fund II, III, and so on. Told me to by someone who has sat on over 6 LPACs(LP advisory committees) in his career so far.
42/ The median family office check into first-time fund managers is $750K, with over 80% of family offices investing into first-time managers.
43/ “Does the world need another VC fund?” Most LPs don’t think so, so you need to convince them why you should exist.
44/ Before wasting your time pitching to some LPs, ask “Are you actively investing in venture funds at this time?” Many take meetings, but aren’t. Your time is precious.
45/ You’re going to raise from friends and family in the beginning. Your second cohort of LPs will be people you have a substantial network to. In other words, investors who you have many duplicate warm connections with, so that they can easily qualify your ability. – Dylan Weening
46/ In a recessionary market, LPs find themselves rebalancing their asset allocations. As their public market assets go down, they find themselves overallocated into venture. As such, they’re investing in less new managers. So in order to raise as an emerging GP from these LPs, you need to replace someone they’re currently investing into. That means you need to: (a) outperform them (4x TVPI is table stakes), and (b) have one compelling story on why you, backed by numbers.
47/ When doing diligence, sophisticated LPs evaluate you based on consistency. They will evaluate fund/portfolio performance with AND without your top investment. Hence, they expect a minimum number of investments in your portfolio – usually 20 to 30.
48/ Some LPs have been burned by staying invested in yesterday’s firms for too long. The top firms a decade ago are not the same top firms today. These firms often have an emerging GP thesis.
49/ “This is not a one-trick-pony relationship. You’re a capital allocator. The cost of finding new relationships to build is significant. You need to seek long-term capital allocation partners. Have a three to five fund view – multi-decade relationships. How repeatable is your success?” Shared by an LP in 30 funds.
50/ “The best filter for this is figuring out what [an LP’s] minimum check size is. And, is that greater than 20% of your fund size? If so, it won’t be a good fit.” – Sarah Smith
51/ “There’s a thing called ’round tripping.’ If a fund in India invests in a fund that’s built in the US, then invests back into Indian startups, that’s round tripping. And unfortunately, not allowed.” – Shiva Singh Sangwan
52/ “Before you say yes to LPs, check the CFIUS rules. Under those guidelines, you may not be able to take money from certain countries and parties.” – Arjun Dev Arora
53/ “Valuations are not the way you judge a venture capitalist, or multiples of their fund. […] The way that I judge a venture capitalist is by how many companies did they back that grew into $100M revenue businesses.” – Andy Rachleff
Fund strategy/portfolio construction
54/ It’s often good practice to not lead syndicates the same time as you’re raising for a fund (outside of SPVs to maintain pro rata). It gives too much optionality to LPs. For the most part, it’s easier sell a deal than it is to sell a fund.
55/ Typical GP commits are 1-2% of the fund. If you’re unable to do so (or even if you are), good practices include recycling fees and deal warehousing. The latter is where you keep a portfolio of personal investments in storage before launching the fund. Warehousing deals de-risk the deal by allowing LPs to participate in marked-up deals at more lucrative, aka lower valuations.
56/ In a downturn, investors are still funding startups but adding in more terms in the form of side letters. The riskier the bet, the greater the liquidation preferences, anti-dilution provisions, and minimum hurdle rate expectations.*timestamped in April 2022
57/ “Bank loans for VC funds have short paybacks (90-180 days). The 2+ year paybacks relate to large PE funds. IRR boost is minimal in VC.” – Samir Kaji
58/ Don’t be scared to recycle carry early. Most funds suffer from under-deployment, which usually leads VCs to deploy the last 25% of capital either towards deals with high valuations or in difficult situations (down rounds, pay to play rounds). – Villi Iltchev
59/ While pro rata rights are technically legally binding, earn the right to invest in subsequent rounds, rather than just expect it.
60/ Liquidation preferences have little impact on fund returns, which makes sense when you actually think about it, but many VCs add these provisions to protect their downside. Data shows that only the bottom quartile funds see IRR impacted greater than 1% due to liquidation preferences. Returns are driven by the winners in your portfolio where liquidation preferences don’t matter. There’s a big difference in a strategy to win versus a strategy not to lose.
61/ IRR is a vanity metric for funds early in their life cycle. While it can be a useful metric for LPs to compare across vintages and their portfolio, overoptimizing for it gives a false sense of hope. Why? IRR values quick capital deployment. Recycling hurts IRR. Many things change over the span of a 10-15 year fund. – Seth Levine.
62/ Ownership and pro rata allocations are inversely proportional to the number of portfolio companies in a fund. Many managers can’t get 100% of their pro rata allocations, but rather only 50-75% of their allocations. Inspired by Henri Pierre-Jacques.
63/ Venture reserves make less sense in a bull market. Reserves are usually put into a fund’s winners. But in a hot market, a larger percentage of your portfolio companies get mark ups – making it harder to differentiate signal from noise. Reserves make sense in a bear market when it’s easier to differentiate signal from noise. In a bull market, it might be better to have no reserves, and spin up SPVs for a follow-on strategy.
64/ Your ability to get into later rounds, not just ’cause of pro-rata rights, should be a big determinant if you have a reserve strategy. Can you earn your allocation in later rounds? Will founders fight for you even when downstream investors want more equity? The best companies are hot commodities. Even if you have a follow-on strategy, you might not be able to get in those subsequent rounds.
65/ If you want to include more than 99 accredited investors in your fund, set up a parallel structure where you have one fund for accredited investors (<$10M) to include 249 accredited investors, and another fund for qualified purchasers (QPs).
66/ “The best way to protect yourself against the downside is to enjoy every bit of the upside.” – Bill Gurley
67/ If you have a parallel fund structure (i.e. one for accredited investors, one for qualified purchasers (QPs)) and you’re going through rolling closes, understand that your initial allocation in each deal will change as a function of each fund’s committed capital from LPs.
For example, let’s say you’re raising a hypothetical $100M fund – a $10M fund for accredited investors, and $90M for QPs. Let’s call the $10M fund Fund IA, and the $90M fund Fund I. On average, QPs take much longer to make a decision, so you’re likely to close your Fund IA before you close Fund I. As such, your first investments out of the fund might be 50-50 from each fund. But as you finish closing your Fund I, you will need to rebalance your allocation into earlier deals, like changing it from a 50-50 allocation between the two funds to 90-10. As such, in your term sheets, make sure you include the “right to transfer securities to affiliates.” And make it clear to your founders why that’s in there before everyone signs.
68/ If you’re building a concentrated portfolio, think about portfolio construction from a bottom-up perspective, rather than top-down. How many unicorns/decacorns do you need to return the fund? How often have you historically seen them in your inbox? That’ll be your deployment schedule. And subsequently, your capital call schedule.
69/ “Fund management is irrelevant unless there are winners in the portfolio.” – Laura Thompson
70/ Calculate your mark ups on priced rounds rather than valuation caps on SAFEs. Your TVPI and IRR may look nice in the short-term, and may help you raise from individual LPs. But once you start talking to institutions, you look deceitful or have no idea what you’re doing.
71/ Avoid overly large GP commits. If you invest too much of your own net worth into a fund, you’re going to make decisions that sacrifice the long game of the fund for short term personal liquidity, like selling secondaries to buy a house. Don’t go higher than 10% of your net worth. – Sheel Mohnot
72/ “For funds that are <$20MM, the GP commitment is fairly meaningless in the evaluation of a fund. Either the person is already taking a great opportunity cost by running such a small fund or has independent personal wealth where a small GP commitment is irrelevant to them.” – Samir Kaji
73/ “Most LPs allow you to reinvest returns 18-36 months after the investment period. The early wins are often small and don’t impact the returns so you are better off reinvesting to go for another unicorn. This is a game of outliers.” – Henri Pierre-Jacques
74/ “Management fee schedule adjustments: Pause or slow down fees in ’23 (with authority delegated to LPAC to avoid conflicts of interest)” – Chris Harvey (timestamped Feb 13, 2023). A way to leverage your LPAC to communicate fund decisions to the rest of your LPs
75/ “What % of companies successfully got funded from investment to the next round?
Seed —> Series A should be >35%.
Series A —> Series B should be >50%.
Series B —> Series C should be >50%.
And, Series C —> Series D+ should be >60%.” – Aman Verjee
76/ As a long-term investor, you have to generate at least three times the risk-free rate (3-month T-bonds, bank interest rates, etc.) to have an investment make sense in the long-term. – Chamath Palihapitiya, speaking when T-bonds’ rate is 6.5%, meaning a private investment must generate at least 20-25% for it to make sense
Selling positions
77/ “In consumer and consumer social, advocate more aggressively for selling along the way. The hype cycle of consumer means heat and traction do not have the sustainability of enterprise ARR and so more weight placed on selling some portion earlier there.” – Harry Stebbings
78/ “Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered. Even if we believe a company has tremendous longterm upside, it’s not inappropriate to take some money off the table in order to manage that risk. As we’re recently reminded, markets go down, not just up. Just be aware of the incentives, emotions, and other factors at play. It’s ok to behave one way before you hit your DPI target and another way after, but understand how those factors produce better or worse possible outcomes. This is also true with regards to recycling. If we can sell partially out of a position and put those proceeds into one that we believe has more incremental upside, that’s accretive to our results.” – Hunter Walk
79/ “Generally once a position is worth 3x the fund sell 1/3rd to return 1x the fund (if there is liquidity). […] For the hot names you will get a bunch of inbound. Negotiate to get a price you like. For less hot names, just talk to the investors leading the next round and see if they want to add to their position. A lot of times they do and don’t mind buying out earlier investors.” – Sheel Mohnot
80/ “For public shares, we’ve landed on the following model:
1/3rd immediately (either first-day lockup expires or immediate on direct listing)
1/3rd 6 months after
1/3rd up to our discretion
Here’s why — The first third books your win. If you do seed, you likely have a huge position by the time you hold public shares. The second third allows the stock price to stabilize after the market has been hit with lots of supply from VCs doing distributions. The last third allows you to have an opinion on the stock/market — however, you can choose to distribute this third anytime, including alongside or after the previous thirds.” – Chad Byers
81/ If you’re a reasonably good fund, you should return at least 1x your fund (1x DPI) within 5-7 years. – Chamath Palihapitiya and Jason Rowley
LP management
82/ Early funds generally have 30 LPs in the fund. Fund I is often an exception.
83/ A general rule of thumb is to not have any one LP contribute more than 25% of the fund, or else you might lose control when you have such a large “shareholder”.
84/ “After my LPs wire their money, I send them an intake form where I ask the question: How would you describe yourself as an LP? I have a number of statements they can select to indicate whether they are a newer or more experienced LP, if they’d like to be more active with founders, how often they’d like to communicate with me, and if they are interested in co-investment opportunities and events. I have another question following that: If you want to be more active, what are ways you enjoy helping?” – Sarah Smith
85/ “Be thoughtful about how you’re managing your time, so that you don’t turn into a full-time venture professor. You’re an investor, a GP. That’s what you’re getting paid to do.” – Arjun Dev Arora
86/ “Avoid LPs who ask you to give up economics as a GP or change your terms. LPs who want to negotiate lower management fees, a different carry structure, or they want to own 20% of the general partnership for the next three funds are best avoided if possible. They want to change the terms that everyone else has. I wouldn’t allow that. If other LPs find out (and they eventually do), it would cause my LPs to lose trust in me and rightfully be frustrated that they got worse terms.” – Sarah Smith
87/ “If someone does ask for it, and if they aren’t a large enough check, we tell them, ‘We like to reserve this spot for our largest LPs because they have the largest exposure in our fund. We’re open to you being a member in our LPAC, if you increase your check size.” That way, you can leave the ball in their court. Either, they won’t push further or they’ll commit more capital to the fund.” – Eric Bahn
88/ “If you’re in your Fund I or II, like I am, you’re still figuring shit out. You’re still testing what works and resonates and what doesn’t. I ask them, ‘what have you seen other managers do in this situation?’” – Paige Finn Doherty
89/ “The average, for a normal venture fund, is around 5-7 years to call 90% of the capital.” – Chamath Palihapitiya
SPVs/Syndicates
90/ There are two types of syndicate leads: “marketers” and “connoisseurs.” The former focuses on volume, which lead to more noise than signal. The latter focuses on quality, and as “tastemakers” lead to higher signal over noise. As LPs, quality may matter more than quantity, especially when you’re most likely diversified by being in several other syndicates already. Inspired by Julian Weisser.
91/ If you’re warehousing SPVs for your fund, do note that the number of unique LPs in your SPV(s) count towards your accredited investor limit.
92/ If you’re an LP in an SPV and agree for it to be warehoused into a fund, you are forgoing your right to the individual deal for access to the fund’s portfolio of deals.
93/ As the syndicate lead, set the minimum check size at or less than your own check size.
94/ Your GP commit into your SPV is directly proportional to your net worth. The greater your net worth, the more you’re expected to contribute. Any less, would be a negative signal. That said, the less of a net worth you have, the more you’re expected to be a great curator of deals.
Succession planning
95/ “The best way to think about succession planning is that you have to have team members at different parts of their life. Different generations. Even if they’re non-founding partners, if they all retire at the same time, you can’t build a legacy.” – An investor with 9-figure AUM
96/ Structure your fund to have a generational off-ramp for compensation. A lot of funds are structured so that payout is done through the management company, and so owning equity in the management company becomes increasingly more expensive as the firm matures and has greater AUM, etc. So the next generation, in order to succeed the firm, must buy out the previous generation’s equity. So, leadership transitions are not easy. Instead, structure your firm so that the management company doesn’t have value, where the value is at the GP. So transitions are a lot easier. – Maha Ibrahim
Tax planning
97/ When invest in a startup via SAFEs or convertible notes, your QSBS timer counts when the SAFE converts on equity round, not during the convertible round.
98/ As a GP who takes management fees through a management company, often LLC, you don’t receive W-2’s. As such, you can’t withhold taxes, so you have to be disciplined on cash management. “Outside of federal and state tax, there is a massive self-employment tax of 12.4% on up to $147,000 of earnings. And an additional 2.9% on any earnings.” – Jarrid Tingle
99/ The origin of the 1% GP commit comes from taxation laws prior to 1996. But even now, “in order for GPs to avoid their carried interest being taxed as ordinary income vs. long-term capital gains, many GPs still follow safe harbor.” – Courtney McCrea and Sara Zulkosky. While this isolates GPs who aren’t independently wealthy or are well-capitalized, in lieu of the typical cash contribution, I see a lot more emerging GPs warehouse deals and recycle carry.
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Last Friday was my last day with a team and a company I called home for the past 18 months. My brain’s been conditioned to expect a team sync every Monday and that every Wednesday is deep work Wednesday, but also a good time to catch up with my teammates. I’m going to miss these moments and more as I embark on a new chapter. To say the last 18 months were a rollercoaster would be an understatement, but I wouldn’t have traded a second for anything else. To see our community of the world’s most helpful investors grow from angels to syndicate leads to fund managers and LPs has been my absolute honor and pleasure. Today and every day forward, I’m thrilled to see where On Deck goes next as it continues to be the pillar behind talented and ambitious founders from the day they decide they want to change the world.
Needless to say, I’ve taken away many lessons over the past year and change. Among many investing lessons, a lucky seven of which have greatly changed the way I work. Changing up the pace here, this is also going to be my first blogpost where there is more audio than there is text.
1. Loom is my best friend
Shoutout to Andrew Rea for building a new habit in my life.
2. Don’t over-engineer
Hats off to Julian Weisser for reminding me to keep it scrappy.
3. Take breaks
A big thank you to Sam Huleatt, Vivian Meng and Soumya Tejam for reminders that we need to take one step back to take two leaps forward.
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Before we dive into this blogpost, I’ve been asked by my legal friends to include the below disclaimer. I have a version of this at the bottom of every blogpost, but nevertheless, it doesn’t hurt to reiterate it again.
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One of my favorite scenes as a kid was in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone when Harry visits Diagon Alley for the first time. As the stone wall parted like the Red Sea, we saw a world unlike any we’ve seen before. With that, the audience along with Harry (Kudos for Director Chris Columbus‘ artistic direction) watched in wonder, excitement, and mystery. And Harry and I alike (Admittedly, I didn’t start reading the books till after the first movie) was hit with an overwhelming load of new information to absorb.
Raising your first fund is very much like that. While there are still some elements of familiarity, like investing in great people and winning great deals, you are taking other people’s money (OPM) for the first time. As such, it begs the questions: Who do you take money from? And how do you manage those relationships?
And like the stone wall in Diagon Alley, there’s more than meets the eye.
I have to thank Shiva for first bringing this topic to my attention, one that deserves a more nuanced breakdown than what is currently out there. And when Rebekah brought the below notion up for the Emerging LP Playbook, I knew I had to dedicate a blogpost to just this topic.
“GPs often have some flexibility on their minimum check size. I’m a pretty small check (particularly since I’ve been living on a founder salary!), but I can bring other things to the table to help the GPs I invest in (e.g. I highlighted Janine Sickmeyer from Overlooked Ventures in my Forbes column, I’m an advisor to Zecca Lehn from Responsibly Ventures, I send them deal flow from my AuthenTech community of founders). I’ve had luck with reaching out and saying ‘I really believe in what you’re doing. Please let me know if you get enough large checks and have room for some smaller LP investments.’ They’ll usually need to get enough big investments first since there are SEC limits on how many LPs they can have, and then they can let in some smaller, value-add LPs.”
The LP landscape is rapidly changing. What we knew in the last decade won’t get us to the next. The opacity in the LP world is getting undone by new, emerging LPs hungry to get involved and to learn. Folks, like Nichole at Wischoff Ventures have also shared publicly what her LP base looks like, with a level of transparency that’s foreign, yet refreshing for this industry.
Regulation has moved the needle, allowing for greater allocations to equity crowdfunding, as well as introducing more retail and high net-worth individual investors, to join the foray. Platforms, like AngelList, Republic, Twitter, Allocate, and Revere, just to name a few, are creating engines for better GP discoverability. There have been conversations on raising the ceiling on the number of accredited investors in a fund to 600. Which, if passed, will allow for smaller checks into funds, whereas the previous decades only allowed for family offices and institutions, as well as close friends. Anecdotally, I’ve also seen a lot of angel investors starting to allocate to funds rather than just purely startups.
And at this inflection point, as a GP, you need to be ready for this market shift that’s still early now, but starting to move. And hopefully, the below insights from 11 amazing GPs will serve as your wand, potions, owl and broom as you embark into the magical world of being a fund manager.
My methodology
To be fair, LP construction is more of an art than a science. So, I asked GPs who were on Funds I, II, or III. Why? Emerging GPs would best be able to relate a lot more to the hustle of finding and persuading different kinds of LP personas than someone who was on a Fund X or XV, who already have a long track record that speaks for itself.
I’m also a firm believer in tactical mentorship — mentors who are just 2-3 years ahead of you. People who have just been through the trenches you’re in and can share the lessons they learned. At the same time, not too far ahead where they are no longer the best people to check your blind side. After all, the lessons they picked up are still fresh in their mind. As a function, every one of these amazing GPs started their current fund in the past decade. The only caveat is that this may be the first recession they’re investing other people’s money (OPM) into, although they may have invested their own in the previous decade. And while that may be true, their lessons are timeless.
In the world of baseball, there’s the idea of breaking the catcher’s mitt. In other words, a new glove must be worn and used several times before it can achieve its full potential. Pitching to LPs and LP construction as a whole is no different. Just like a founder needs to pitch to several friends, colleagues, and investors, before they can hit their full stride during fundraising, raising from LPs requires many conversations and many iterations. Even Felicis’ brilliant Aydin Senkut got his first yes from an LP in Felicis after 107 iterations of his pitch.
So, in embarking on this topic and to get the best insight I could, it came down to two core pillars: the people I asked and the questions. I’ll start with the people.
Don’t get me wrong, there are a lot. And the folks included here are by no means all-inclusive. Many who had gone on to raise a Fund IV or higher. In effect, a few years or more out of the emerging manager game. Quite a few I didn’t know well enough. That’s on me. And some who, for all their goodwill and insight, unfortunately, were busy in the weeks prior to this blogpost coming out.
The questions
Building a firm with multiple funds is, in many ways, like driving a car through fog. Not my best analogy, but gets the point across. You see the rough outlines of the road just a few meters ahead, but you won’t see the sinkholes and the cracked concrete until you’re right in front of it, nor do you see any part of the road further than a few meters away. Or as Warren Buffett says, “The rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield.”
Things are often painfully obvious in hindsight, but are scary, mysterious and unknown in foresight. Sometimes, you just don’t know what you don’t know. And as such, I write and I ask, in hopes to help the ones starting off, to develop foresight from the below cast’s hindsight. And to each, I had five overarching questions, coupled with follow-ups for more depth:
As you embark on your fundraise, note that different LPs resonate with different pitches. Additionally, when you choose out to reach out to each persona, be aware of what each of these LP personas’ incentives are. As a seasoned LP once told me:
High net-worth individuals seek to learn and rarely have a financial incentive.
Small and medium-sized family offices seek to learn and access top decile deal flow.
Larger LPs, like institutions and fund-of-funds, seek financial return.
From my conversations, it seems most GPs raising a Fund I start with individuals, then target larger check sizes as their fundraise matures. For Fund IIs, many seem to start with finding an anchor LP first, before reaching out to individuals and family offices.
The truth is there’s no silver bullet. And you’ll see exactly why below. So what might be more useful to you, an emerging GP, are anecdotes of what worked for different funds. As I call it, tools for your toolkit.
I will note that the one LP persona I won’t touch on as much since I have a lack of data here are corporates who usually seek technology, as well as information access, largely for acquisition opportunities.
Individuals
Start with people close to you.
“You should always target friendlies first. Welcome your references and first believers who might be founders, individuals, former coworkers, classmates.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
“It all depends on which Fund you are raising, how much you are raising, track record, team, and many more variables. If you are an emerging manager that is not spinning out of a brand named fund with a significant track record, you are going to have to be scrappy and start with people who know and trust you. “
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
“You should always start off with your network – from the closest circle and outwards through the various concentric circles. At the beginning, you want to focus on finding your first believers. Those are your first-degree and maybe second-degree connections. So it’s less of the archetype of LP, but more so the depth of relevant relationship that matters. After the first close, that’s when you explore emerging manager programs or talk to more traditional asset managers — still largely within your first- and second-degree networks and/or those of your close early LPs and advisors.”
— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One
“The first $5 million is the hardest. Go to your friends and family. Build some momentum. After you get the initial momentum, it builds off of that. Everyone back channels everyone.”
— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection
“For the beginning of a fundraise, I’d recommend asking for advice (before money) from people you’ve worked with for an extended amount of time. Your earliest checks may often be smaller but meaningful amounts from colleagues, co-investors, and GPs at other firms.”
— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures
“The thing is my fund wasn’t oversubscribed from the beginning since I found it hard to raise. It’s a game of momentum, and in the beginning, I didn’t have any. In the beginning, it was about reaching out to the folks that you know. So, I mostly reached out to GPs and fund managers I knew and getting them through.”
— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise
“At the beginning, always start with people you have relationships with — people who’ve known you for a very long time. They not only want to invest in the fund, but invest in you. My first LPs would have likely invested in anything I created, but they knew I wanted to build a track record in venture. I’ve known one of my LPs since we were kids. Another was one of my best friends in university. Another was a friend of his.”
— “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds
Beware of relying too much on publicly available data to find LPs.
“The challenge with a purely data-driven approach (i.e. on LinkedIn or Pitchbook) is that you don’t understand the full rationale for why certain LPs invested in a fund. On paper, it may look like a family office is an LP in venture funds, but the principal at that family office could just be the brother- or sister-in-law of the GP. Most LPs also don’t explicitly say they’re LPs on LinkedIn. They could be an asset manager or a CEO of a Fortune 500 company. They almost always don’t want to be inundated with asks. Only after understanding why the industry is opaque, can you then understand LPs and find them.”
— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One
For potential MVP LPs, check size doesn’t matter.
“At the beginning of the fundraise, anyone that knows you and trusts you already AND can easily part with some money. Our first close was $20 million, and it was almost all people who knew us already – either directly or through our brand. We only had one new investor. In that group, we were lucky to have some fairly common names, which helped build the momentum for the rest of the fundraise.
“We did think about check sizes a little bit. There were some people we wanted to have involved for sure, and for them, the check size didn’t really matter. In our first close, we thought of people who could write a $250K check. And if there was someone we really wanted, we’d reduce it to $100K. I’m also an LP, and I do the same. If I plan to invest, I always negotiate down as well. The GP tells me X and I say I’ll invest X, divided by three.”
— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures
Persistence also speaks for itself.
“There are two types of investors: those who will commit to your fund now, and those who will invest after building trust. A lot of investors don’t like to invest in a Fund I. To keep them engaged, you either take a tiny check they’re comfortable with or you share regular LP updates that showcase your proof of work.
“In addition, you have to be clear with expectations. I bucketed potential LPs into four buckets:
High net-worth individuals
Founders and operators
Family offices
And GPs
“With each meeting, my pitch evolved and did a lot of follow ups. I had to show I was getting access to good deals and how I was getting access to those deals. You have to share the story behind that. That’s how you attract other investors. For instance, I remember sending my proof of work and an additional ten follow-ups to an LP. And each time I followed up, there has to be some new substance, value, and proof of work. It was a long process, but he ended up becoming one of my largest checks.
“Investors who were or are hustlers tended to gravitate towards my pitch. They became high-functioning people because of their hustle and respect me for my follow-ups and my persistence. They saw themselves in me. Similarly, founders are most likely going to get a reply from me who follow-up at least 2-3 times.
“The lesson here is that being persistent shows that you care. 99.9% of people won’t follow up, and by doing so, you’re already standing out.”
— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise
There are different ways to get in front of LPs: events, Twitter, deal flow, etc.
“Throw events for your LPs — a nice dinner or a cool experience — and ask them to invite their friends. Host events in a thoughtful way.
“Share relevant SPVs. Even broader, it’s content. Having founders be big fans of yours is also helpful. It’s a positive signal and creates buzz.
“That said, having co-investors who like you is a more direct path. LPs often ask VCs: Who are you co-investing with? Which emerging managers are you excited about? These LPs are looking for names. Some GPs are more generous with intros; while others prefer not to share but that’s OK as long as some do.”
— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One
“Looking back at my experience, a majority of our LPs from both Fund I and II actually came from Twitter and warm intros. I’m on Twitter a lot, mostly because I raised Fund I during the pandemic, so Twitter was where I hung out with many of my friends. I love to tell stories and as an extension I help founders tell their stories. And I host events and have done so since elementary school when I was on the student government event planning board. People are interested in my story because I don’t come from a traditional background. They invested mainly because they realize ‘she’s putting so much into the ecosystem, so it’ll eventually come back to pay dividends.'”
— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures
Some individual LPs are not financially motivated.
“I want to preface that we only have foreign LPs, not US LPs. So, sophistication is very different. With European investors, while running a fund investing in the US, you can play the access game. In other words, you can sell access to great US companies. It’s something I lean on quite a bit.
“My LPs are quite sophisticated outside of the world of tech. They’re finance-savvy wealth managers, founders, high net worth individuals with net worths greater than $50 million, where they invest out of leisure and pursuing a mission, rather than for financial returns. They don’t understand venture, but want exposure to venture.”
— “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds
Start with HNW individuals, and end on family offices.
“Let’s make a few assumptions here. Let’s assume this is a Fund I and an emerging manager who doesn’t come from an extreme pedigree. Not from Sequoia or the like. This person is a decent operator-turned-VC, investing with a cool thesis. I’m going to also assume they’re not going to raise a $50 million Fund I or greater. They’re staying small and only raising $10-20 million.
“So I break down LPs into four categories.
High net-worth individuals – These are your angels.
Family offices – They have a lot more assets, usually $100 million or greater.
Fund of funds – They have a mandate to invest in other funds.
Endowments – These are very large institutions, maybe even sovereign wealth. They tend to write big checks into big funds.
“The big mistake I see many GPs make is that most GPs try to target the big ones out of the gate. Rather, in the beginning, focus on the high net-worth individuals. This is similar to asking angels. Their conviction and speed is quick. Their typical check size is no greater than $100K.
“Once you get a few million in the bank, then focus on the family offices — the $1-5 million checks. They tend to operate a lot like angels, but have just accumulated a lot more wealth. Around Fund II or III, then you target larger institutions.
“So, my recommendation is that as an emerging manager, start with angels, end with family offices.”
— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund
“When you get closer to a final close, and you have a small fund, you can always welcome 1-2 family offices who can write small checks as well as individual investors who can be really helpful.”
— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise
Family offices
Find LPs by optimizing your search with certain keywords.
“Ask your existing LPs if they know anyone. Search LinkedIn to make their life easier. To find LPs, I would recommend looking up the keywords: Venture capital, asset manager, family office, emerging manager, startup (or venture) ecosystem, allocation, active allocator. All the above implies someone is putting money to work.”
— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One
Ask each person for just one intro, nothing more.
“Hustle Fund today has hundreds of LPs in our pipeline. But when we started off, we didn’t know a single family office. So, at the risk of sounding unintentionally mean, here’s how I think about it. Finding a family office is kind of like finding a cockroach. It’s always hard to find the first one. But once you find one, you’ll find a whole nest.
“I’ll share a tactical networking tip of how we found family offices over time. So, let’s say we chat with David. He likes us and decides to invest in the fund. We then share our fundraising blurb and deck and ask, ‘Do you mind sending this to one person you think would be a good fit for our fund?’
“The mistake I see a lot of other fund managers make is they ask, ‘Do you mind sharing this to anyone you think would be a good fit?’ Don’t ask for too much. There’s just too much paradoxical choice. There’s too many in their network to choose from and that overwhelms them.
“So, we change the question to just ask for one. That’s it. Generally, they think of the richest person they know. With just one intro, you’re magically in the family office world. A rich person tends to be friends with a lot of other rich people. It is secretive, but they also talk amongst each other a lot. When they invest, they like to bring their own friends in too.”
— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund
Ask for intros to LPs who backed GPs who look like you.
“Another big filter is to find LPs who have backed GPs that look like you or have a similar investment strategy. For me, it was finding LPs who have backed solo GPs. To be fair, it’s not easy to figure out, since it is a rather opaque industry. So, I had other solo GPs I knew well and have co-invested with help make intros to their LPs.
“For LPs that I’ve never talked to before, a question I always ask LPs is: ‘Have you ever backed a solo GP?’ If not, don’t waste your time as you’re extremely unlikely to be their first. They likely have strong philosophical reasons to not back solo GPs so your meeting time is better spent elsewhere.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
Institutional LPs
Don’t underestimate the power of an anchor LP.
“If possible, having a respected entity who could anchor 5-10% of the fund would be ideal. In my case, my former partnership Bain Capital Ventures anchored my fund which was ideal because it keeps us connected and they are well known in the industry. Just like for a founder, having a lead is important. Having an anchor early helps you build momentum to close the rest of the fund.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
“For Fund II, I wanted an anchor LP to provide stability and credibility in the fundraise. Cendana was my number one pick. As a function of fund size at the seed stage, they’re definitely the best. The Harvard of LPs. To become part of their community, for me, was really important.
“It was a hard process, but was doubly as difficult, since Josh and I went our separate ways for Fund II. We had to communicate that decision to our 120 LPs in Fund I before starting the fundraise.
“In Fund I, some LPs believed in me. Some believed in Josh separately. I remember fondly of our first $10K check of belief capital. BGV’s most expensive decisions were our investment decisions. We made all our decisions together in Fund I. We also tried doing a few SPVs via Assure. While it was a great start to our career in VC, it required more work than we thought made sense. But for Fund II, it was going to be different. It was just me. No more SPVs, just checks out of the fund. The story itself wasn’t hard to communicate, but when we got to our 70th call, it was hard to sell the same emotional story.
“So, once we did, I put in the work. I flew to Australia to get introductions and to meet his teammate. Whenever I chatted with other GPs that were backed by Michael [Kim], I’d ask them to say hi to him.
“Pitching to Cendana, and most importantly, Michael, was the longest sales process I’ve ever gone through. He passed on Fund I, but he finally said yes to BGV’s Fund II. Along with Michael, GREE also doubled down on Fund II, along with operator checks from folks at Dropbox and other companies.”
— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures
Bigger LPs have the ability to write smaller get-to-know-you checks.
“At the end of Fund I, we ended up with Cendana, Greenspring, Industry, Vintage, and Invesco. All fund-of-funds, but they all wrote relatively smaller checks than they typically do. For all the afore-mentioned funds, they wrote $1-3 million checks. It was a get-to-know-you check. They would talk to other companies in our portfolio and other managers we co-invested with. And so the best way to get in front of them was to get intros from other managers these fund-of-funds invested in.”
— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures
Talk to LPs whose minimum check size is 20% or less of your fund.
“Some CIOs like being in Fund I’s; others don’t. There’s a lot of alpha in Fund I. At the same time, there are others that won’t consider you seriously until Fund III. The challenge is figuring that out as quickly as possible.
“The best filter for this is figuring out what their minimum check size is. And, is that greater than 20% of your fund size? If so, it won’t be a good fit.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
“Biggest thing is their own AUM and the amount they need to deploy. First barrier to entry is the size of the fund you are raising as the GP. If you are raising sub-$75M (give or take) it wouldn’t be big enough for their minimum check size. LPs don’t want to be even close to a majority of your fund, or likely more than 20%.”
— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures
“Some institutional LPs also cannot write small checks since they are dealing with other variables around their asset allocation models.”
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
Start conversations early with LPs who can invest in the ideal fund size you want to raise.
“It’s not just about what your fund size is today, but where you aspire to be. Say you have a $25 million fund today, but aspire to have a $150 million fund where you lead Series As by Fund III or IV, then you should still talk to LPs who are able to write checks that are 20% or less of that future fund. It’s important to know there may be incredible university endowments or foundations who really like you as a GP but in order to run their business efficiently, they have to be able to write minimum checks of $25M or even $50M+ which means they only seriously consider funds of $150M+.
“The question for you, the fund manager, is: Are you going to grow your fund size over time? Or are you going to stay consistent with your current fund size? If the former, then you need to spend a fair bit of time in your deck about how your strategy will shift over time and some views into those larger future funds.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
“I started having conversations with institutions while I was raising Fund II knowing they wouldn’t come in until Fund III at the earliest. You need a lot of touchpoints and time with these types of LPs before they invest. I am very focused on LPs that want to underwrite me/the fund for years. I want long lasting relationships and partners that can come in fund over fund.”
— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures
“So, when I speak to institutions that are more data-driven — they think about the scalability of AUM — I knew many of those folks were not going to be the best fit. That’s why raising Fund I was so hard.”
— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures
“We have been cultivating relationships with a large amount of institutional LP’s over the last few years. Investors invest based on trust and relationship and in our mind that doesn’t happen overnight.”
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
LPs hate surprises.
“There are some institutional LPs who will give you transparent feedback and transparency about their process but most do not. The #1 thing that rules them all is track record and performance. Institutional LPs don’t want surprises; they want to see a multi-year established track record in what you are investing in.”
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
And even if they disagree with you, LPs like consistent LP updates, even prior to their investment.
“We have a couple institutions that have invested in Hustle Fund. What I didn’t appreciate out of the gate is how long it took to build those relationships. They want to see at least one fund cycle, ideally two. That’s usually anywhere between two and four years. But we’ve nailed how we do it passively.
“We have a newsletter that goes out on the first day of each month at midnight — every month for the past 5.5 years. Each issue has two things: a state of the market and a deal memo on each deal we’ve invested in.
“Today we have 150 investors across three funds and an additional 450 investors who have not invested yet. Think of it like a monthly drip campaign for these prospective investors. Investors get to see what we execute against what we say we’re going to do.
“In some cases, these investors like what they see and choose to eventually invest. In other cases, they find themselves totally disagreeing with how we run our process so they don’t invest, and that’s okay, too. Drip campaigns are always a great marketing tool to close customers. That’s no less true for Hustle Fund. So, at some point, when we mention we’re going to raise a Fund IV, all the meetings will just line up.
“I’ll share a story. Our biggest LP, Foundry Group — Jaclyn and Lindel run their LP initiatives — initially didn’t like our thesis and approach. To them, our investment model was a little too spray and pray. But at the end of our Fund II, they told me, ‘Even if we’re a little uncomfortable with your thesis, you’ve been so consistent with sharing how you’re learning and developing, and we love it. So, we want to invest now.’ They invested because of our newsletter, and witnessing our exact fund thesis. You gotta put in the work. And if you do, the money will follow.”
— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund
Give LPs a compelling reason not to back an established fund. Otherwise, they will.
“Every institution is different, but it’s also really important to realize that with most institutions, the decision maker is not making the decision based on their own capital. So, risk is a huge point. No one is going to get fired for backing Sequoia. They could potentially get fired for putting a huge check into a new emerging manager that isn’t proving anything and going backwards. It’s important to understand the incentives of who you’ll be working with. So institutions are a completely different beast than individuals. Anything they do there’s usually 5 to 10 back references. It’s a small world. For pushback, they want to see a track record, which is really hard for emerging managers. And they want to see some sort of pedigree.”
— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection
“I’m the horrible anomaly of being able to raise from institutional LPs in my first fund. I’ll chalk up timing, privilege, and reputation as being the reason we were successful in doing so. While not all of this is relevant to emerging managers today, 100 Days of Fundraising was a blog post which detailed how Homebrew ran its process.”
— Hunter Walk, Homebrew
Author’s Note: Of particular note, in Hunter’s alluded blogpost, is when he writes:
“What we also had was a point of view as to where we’d be investing: the Bottom Up Economy. This set us apart from other funds with broader or non-descriptive investment principles. We also had given extensive thought to our portfolio construction strategy around playing lead roles in rounds, the number of deals we would do each year, how much capital we’d hold back for follow-on, etc. The combination of these two meant that a fund could see how we’d be differentiated in the marketplace and where we’d fit against their current exposure.”
Should your LPs be active?
The truth is, and you’ll read this below, most LPs are passive. But in a world where you take so many different types of risk as an emerging GP, it helps to have people you can lean on. So, it really comes down to two questions:
What can you ask of your LPs?
What is the upside and downside to having active LPs?
The bull case for active LPs
HNW individuals are just waiting for the ask.
“The LPs I love working with are the ones who are going to be actively involved. They share their expertise with the portfolio, answer our questions, and are willing to jump on random calls with me. A lot of our LPs are high net-worth individuals, and they’re just waiting for the ask. They’re waiting for the GPs who they invested in, to engage with them. Sometimes, all it takes is a 20-minute call to share deals or thoughts or questions.”
— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures
Your LPs will make LP intros if you have a good story.
“I think you can do a good job of getting LPs to send intros. If you can build trust and tell a good story, your LPs will naturally tell others because it comes up at a cocktail party organically. A VC fund is more interesting than ‘Hey I invested in a new ETF.'”
— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection
Incentivize your LPs with additional carry.
“With Fund II, my Fund I LPs opened the door to other LPs in their network. Additionally, I am quite generous with my 20% carry for running the fund. I share 5% of the carry pool with other founders and LPs who send me deals, help with diligence and introduce me to other LPs.”
— “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds
Leverage your LPs’ brand to win deals.
“In my case, I had smart and well-connected LPs, and I was able to win deals because of them by inviting them into deals I wanted to get into. Some of my LPs happened to be fund managers as well, and I have been able to learn a lot from them.”
— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise
Build communities alongside LPs.
“I do believe there is room for LPs to provide value on top of what we expect today – better ways to tap their networks on behalf of our portfolio companies for example. At Screendoor for example, a fund of funds that backs underrepresented emerging managers, we strive to create a community among these VCs to support each other, and also pair them with VCs (like me) who can be coaches along the way when they have questions about firm building.”
— Hunter Walk, Homebrew
If you’re doing something for the first time, ask institutional LPs how other managers they’ve backed have done so.
“Since their investment offices have decades of experience in the venture sector and exposure to top managers across all stages, we often turn to them to gut check our reality against their perspective of the market. And when we encounter a type of situation for the first time, understand how other managers have approached the solution.”
— Hunter Walk, Homebrew
Author’s Note: Paige’s anecdote on how she engages her LPAC below is a great +1 to this point.
Let your LPs choose the kind of LP they want to be.
“I have no preference here. Rather, I’m open to what my LPs want their experience to be like. I have LPs that want to be more passive, as well as operator LPs who want to learn more about investing, lend expertise during diligence, facilitate customer intros, and even help out portfolio companies with hiring.
“After my LPs wire their money, I send them an intake form where I ask the question: How would you describe yourself as an LP? I have a number of statements they can select to indicate whether they are a newer or more experienced LP, if they’d like to be more active with founders, how often they’d like to communicate with me, and if they are interested in co-investment opportunities and events. I have another question following that: If you want to be more active, what are ways you enjoy helping?”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
“I leave it completely up to them, but they typically opt to be more active. I host monthly one-hour office hours, share quarterly updates and deal reviews. For office hours, while we mostly chat about interesting deals I’ve been seeing in the last 30 days, my LPs can ask me anything. I try to be as communicative as possible – valuations, deal memos, and diligence. Sometimes they ask me to set up an additional SPV if they’re interested in putting additional capital in. I have a separate Airtable for deals we’re diligencing at the moment which LPs have access to. If they’re interested in a deal, they can reach out and ask. If not, they don’t have to.”
— “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds
The bear case for active LPs
Having engaged LPs is a lot of work.
“Candidly, I don’t want LPs that want to be super engaged outside of maybe one or two. It’s enough work as it is with quarterly reporting, etc. I want LPs focused on returns. Cendana is the most active with me and in great ways because they have so many emerging managers. I can strategize on fund size, raise timing, first hires, etc.”
— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures
Emerging LPs want to learn from you, but remember you’re an investor, not a professor.
“Emerging LPs want that education. For emerging LPs who write a $5 million check or greater, they might like for you to jump on a call every quarter to educate them and share your current portfolio and what else you are seeing out in the field.
“Also, be thoughtful about how you’re managing your time, so that you don’t turn into a full-time venture professor. You’re an investor, a GP. That’s what you’re getting paid to do.”
— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One
Then again, most LPs are just passive.
“Most LPs are pretty passive. Sometimes they are helpful by making intros to our portfolio companies. We also like getting a pulse on the market from them.”
— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures
“Mostly passive. Most of the time, when the deals are good, they require little involvement.”
— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise
GP-LP fit: Red flags and things to watch out for
Avoid LPs who ask for special terms.
“These are long-term marriages, really long term. If you are going to be partners for the next 10-20 years, you better like each other. We have a no-asshole rule. We want investors who believe in our approach and ethos. My mentors at some of the top VC funds of the last 20 years have also coached us to keep the terms clean and I think a lot of emerging managers feel pressure to give special terms and ownership of their management company or GP, and long term, that might be something you regret.”
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
“While I haven’t said no yet, I have selectively not followed up. For example, after talking with other GPs, I’ve heard some LPs were tricky to manage – outside the norm. It’s okay to expect quarterly communications, but when people start pushing an agenda, that’s too much.
“Avoid LPs who ask you to give up economics as a GP or change your terms. LPs who want to negotiate lower management fees, a different carry structure, or they want to own 20% of the general partnership for the next three funds are best avoided if possible. They want to change the terms that everyone else has. I wouldn’t allow that. If other LPs find out (and they eventually do), it would cause my LPs to lose trust in me and rightfully be frustrated that they got worse terms.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
Do your LPs’ goals align with your fund goals?
“As we got into the process we realized there was, at the time (2013) some other attributes we needed to take into consideration. One for example was the LP’s definition of success.
“We wanted LPs who were investing in us solely because they thought we’d be good stewards of their capital and return above-benchmark results. If there was a second agenda that they made obvious we typically declined the opportunity to work together. Our mindset was that there’s so much risk in trying to build a new firm, let’s focus all of our energy on a single definition of success: cash on cash returns. That precluded taking capital from LPs who were emphasizing direct co-investment (some of our LPs have direct practices and we love to bring them in to portfolio company cap tables when there’s mutual interest but we didn’t want it to be an expectation) or strategic investors who had interests in our portfolio different than our own (e.g. corporates that wanted access to market information).”
— Hunter Walk, Homebrew
Do you have the bandwidth to teach?
“If someone wants to learn, that can take a lot of time. Time that, for you, might be better spent elsewhere. If you’d rather spend the time elsewhere, like with your portfolio or investing, be clear with expectations. And if they don’t budge, don’t take that money.”
— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One
Beware of round tripping.
“I actually couldn’t take any Indian capital due to regulations. There’s a thing called ’round tripping.’ If a fund in India invests in a fund that’s built in the US, then invests back into Indian startups, that’s round tripping. And unfortunately, not allowed.”
— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise
Check your CFIUS rules.
“Before you say yes to LPs, check the CFIUS rules. Under those guidelines, you may not be able to take money from certain countries and parties.”
— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One
Did you take the right capital from the right people?
“Even though we heard ‘no’ a lot during our first fundraise we also turned down some offers. We’d already done a good job of pre-screening out LPs who we didn’t think were values aligned with Homebrew (e.g. money came from sources/institutions we wouldn’t want to work on behalf of).”
— Hunter Walk, Homebrew
“If they’re asking for things that you’re not comfortable with, then you probably shouldn’t work with them. The key is that there should be zero second-guessing. You need to be in a relationship with partners you won’t regret, during bull and bear markets. Ask yourself, ‘Did I take the right capital from the right people? Sometimes, it’s about where that capital came from and if you feel good about that. If there’s any inkling of doubt, don’t take the money or it’ll come back to haunt you.”
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
“You need to communicate your clear values as a fund and long-term platform. Any LPs not aligned on your mission and values would be people to say no to quickly.”
— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One
“So, I did say no. I turned down a million dollar check because I didn’t feel comfortable with him being in front of a founder. And we’re very geared on our community. Money’s nice, but it’s not everything.”
— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection
“Another thing to be mindful of is if an LP has a history of making verbal commitments and then changing that number at closing. You want a reliable and trusted relationship. If you did a reference with another GP, and heard that an LP cut their commitment by 50% at the last minute, that capital’s just not worth the risk to me.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
Don’t tolerate disrespect.
“I said no to a few LPs in Fund II. This was largely because they were super disrespectful during the raise process. I had an LP fly in from the UK after already committing and was so insanely rude to me in front of his all-male team that I decided not to work with them. I also try to be very transparent for folks that might not be a great fit for the fund.”
— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures
“Small things I look for include off-color jokes, like ‘Look at that hot chick,’ or asking stupid questions. Some LPs have said this to Elizabeth, ‘How do you balance being a mom and being a full-time investor?’ I dare people to ask me that question. I’m a dad and I’m still doing it, but no one does.”
— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund
Author’s Note: Eric goes into much more detail on ten reasons why you shouldn’t take LP money here, which I highly recommend a read.
Are your LPs disengaged during the diligence process?
“There are people who are disengaged in the diligence process. Those are people who are usually a bad fit.”
— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures
Look for complimentary experience and diversity of opinion and experiences.
“Like any cap table or LP base, what is important to us is to have partners who can grow with us for a long period of time and where we have diversity of thought, experience, and exceptions. It was really important to Oceans and our ethos to have amazing founders and tech execs as LPs early on who could be great to lean on for diligence and additional leverage to support our founders and entrepreneurial family offices. At the same time we have LPs who are extremely valuable on the finance side and who have a long history of investing in venture. Complimentary experience and diversity of capital is really important to us.”
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
“I also want to put it out there that GPs should be intentional about their LPs. For me, I aim to have my LP base include at least 50% who identify as women or non-binary, 10% black or Latinx, and 10% LGBTQ. Be intentional and solicit a diverse group of people. People talk about the diversity of founders and venture investors, but not about LPs. I think a lot about wealth creation, and it starts from the very top. I think people should be thinking about that a lot more.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
Don’t discount vibe.
“For Fund I, we had a chance to close $30 million worth of LP capital, but we only chose to raise $11 million. That’s a lot of people we said no to.
“It comes down to say a single word: vibe. It’s kind of like a marriage. ‘You’re trusting me with your wealth for a decade, if not more. It’s not a relationship we take lightly.’ I also share all the reasons why it won’t work out. So our LPs know what they’re getting themselves into.
“If something feels off, I don’t have to explain it. No one on our team has to explain it. If your gut feels like this could be off, we should just always trust that. Those one or two LPs your gut tells you is off are likely going to be super annoying,
“People like to logos their way out of things, but you really have to go back to gut feel. It’s almost never worth it. I can’t explain what an asshole feels like. But when you meet one, you know it.”
— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund
“If I have a gut feeling that something is weird, then I trust that.”
— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures
Big checks prevent you from bringing in other LPs you want.
“We haven’t had to say no to that many LPs. In our case, we either told them, ‘It’s too late – we’re full now and don’t have room for you.’ Or we talked LPs down from how much they wanted to commit. We had an LP who initially committed $22 million. And we told them, ‘Hey, we want to add more investors to our fund, so we don’t want to have any investors who commit more than $15 million.’”
— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures
Sometimes, the check size is just too small.
“I’ve said no because people wanted to invest below the minimum. To which, I told them to wait until they could meet the minimum. I’m not in the business of putting people in financial distress. And if my minimum, which is modest by design, $100K, called over two years, puts people in a position where they are stressed out, they shouldn’t invest in me or perhaps venture as a whole.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
“As the fund grew, I would turn down certain individuals due to check size.”
— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures
But check size can vary based on an LP’s value to you or the portfolio.
“I also only reached out to people I wanted to have on board. The minimum check size did vary from individual to individual, which I largely based it off of the value they could provide for the fund and my portfolio companies.”
— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise
Or don’t settle and aim high.
“I hate the word ‘oversubscribed.’ It’s something I was lucky to learn very early on. Early in my career I had a board member say to me that if you hit your goals every quarter, your goals aren’t high enough.”
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
Author’s Note: As you might realize even more after the last three pieces of advice, there’s really no right answer.
How do GPs think about building an LPAC?
Your anchor and other major LPs will ask you to create one.
“On the LPAC, I think I can confidently say that no fund manager wants an LPAC and proactively creates one. It is usually the ask of an anchor LP as you scale fund size. For example, for my second fund, I was asked by an LP to create one, and I was told a good number of LPAC members is three. You want the anchor LP in the LPAC because they are your biggest investor, and the two others should be trusted partners who want to help you. It’s up to me who I ask assuming not many have asked to be a part of it.
“I’ve been told most managers will have a bi-annual quick check-in call just to talk about how things are going. TBD if I ever do this. On the other hand, a lot of managers try to wait until they have at least $100M in AUM to give into an LPAC. But I didn’t say no.”
— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures
“I think it’s, in large part, who wants to be on it. A lot of your larger LPs, in exchange for 10% of your fund, want to be on your LPAC. There are some investors who committed 10% but don’t want to be on it. It’s not like a board. If people want to be on it, it’s okay.
“We have five on our LPAC, and it’s a good number. We give them an early look by sharing with them our plan and fund deck. So, they gave us early feedback, like on carry structure.”
— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures
If a smaller LP wants to be on the LPAC, push back by giving them options that fit what you’re looking for.
“There are no real rules about how you approach them. We typically like to have our largest investors in it, at least symbolically. They’re putting in the most risk, so they should have a say in the direction of the firm.
“If someone does ask for it, and if they aren’t a large enough check, we tell them, ‘We like to reserve this spot for our largest LPs because they have the largest exposure in our fund. We’re open to you being a member in our LPAC, if you increase your check size.” That way, you can leave the ball in their court. Either, they won’t push further or they’ll commit more capital to the fund.”
— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund
Evaluate a potential LPAC member on five different dimensions.
“So I will preface that emerging funds — Funds I to III or IV — are different from established funds, which have a mostly institutional base. Those who tend to write large checks may also be more inclined to want a seat on the LPAC.
“We look at it from these different dimensions, which we categorize into:
Flexibility,
Complementary skills,
Ability to give honest feedback
Value, and
Capital
“So, flexibility is important because we’re not an institutional fund yet. The construction of the committee depends on the ebbs and flows of fundraising. Some investors don’t want to be on an LPAC — conflicting interests, not wanting to be actively involved, or just don’t want the time commitment. This’ll admittedly look very different for an institutional LPAC down the road for someone who has several hundred million in AUM. Institutional LPs will ask to have a seat on the LPAC, especially if they’re writing a check that accounts for 20% or more of the fund.”
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
Go to them if you plan to go off-thesis.
“You go to them for things you might think are a conflict. For example, if I say I write $1M checks and I am considering going off-thesis and writing a $250K check, I might want to gut check and get a thumbs up that I’m not being an idiot. It would be a super simple email saying: ‘Hey team, here’s the scoop – please share thoughts.’ It’s very loose.”
— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures
Ask your LPAC what they’re seeing in other managers they’ve backed.
“I didn’t expect to negotiate my LPA with Cendana. I have Michael [Kim] and Yougrok [from GREE Capital] on my LPAC. Youngrok is someone I meet with very often. And since GREE backed us since Fund I, he’s seen my growth as a fund manager. Our LPAC offers a great and critical lens into the industry.
Individually, I chat with both quite often. Together, as an LPAC, we meet quarterly. We’re also going to have our first general annual meeting on April 21st.
What’s great about Michael and Youngrok is that I’m not afraid to ask questions I think are dumb. If you’re in your Fund I or II, like I am, you’re still figuring shit out. You’re still testing what works and resonates and what doesn’t. I ask them, ‘what have you seen other managers do in this situation?’ They’ve worked with so many other managers, and in learning from their deep knowledge, I’m better off as a manager. It’s about building BGV as a long-term institution.”
— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures
Your LPAC is your LP base’s chief influencer.
“One useful note about having an LPAC is that sometimes you want to make a minor change to the LPA. Say you originally planned to only invest in North American companies, but now you want to invest 5% of the fund in African startups. If you don’t have an LPAC, you have to go back to all your LPs each time you change the parameters of the agreement. If you have an LPAC, they can approve those minor changes for you on behalf of the rest of the LPs.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
“To be honest, I’m still confused about the purpose and concept of an LPAC. I like to think of the LPAC as the influencer of the LP base. They keep the investors’ interests in mind and help you communicate hard decisions to your investors.”
— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund
Consult your LPAC for tough decisions.
“It definitely matters more at the end of the fund life. For instance, if we want to wait an additional year for Stripe to IPO. Then we consult with our LPAC to figure out the best way to message that to our LPs. Additionally, we can ask them what they think about a deal we’re about to do. It can also be useful in corporal situations. Hypothetically, if Elizabeth was beating me up, I can ask our LPAC to help me remove her.”
— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund
“Since we’ve got a very small group of LPs that make up 95%+ of our funds, there isn’t much difference between our relationship with our LPAC and the other LPs. That said, we do have an LPAC and it’s composed of the largest investors in our funds. We meet with them once a year – typically a lunch before our annual meeting. And share the materials/discussion with the rest of the institutional LPs as well, so it’s less about anything confidential and more about a group of stakeholders we can get feedback from. Of course there are sometimes administrative aspects (approve us raising our recycling limits for a fund) but more often than not Satya and I are seeking feedback on questions we’re facing about how we want to manage the firm, tradeoffs between short and long-term thinking, and such.”
— Hunter Walk, Homebrew
“For us, when we constructed our LPAC, the questions we asked ourselves were:
Who do we think would be valuable in helping us balance short term decisions with long term thinking?
Who do we think will give us honest feedback and engage in honest conversations?
And who do we know has complementary DNA?”
— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures
Find LPAC members who come from diverse experiences.
“I use it as a mini-board. I won’t go to it for big decisions, but I like the idea of surrounding myself with people who have different experiences than me, who have dissent, and make me a better investor.”
— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection
Build an LPAC of different LP personas.
“If you have a great LPAC, they’re almost like a board of directors. You have some kind of cadence to get advice. If I did have one, I would like to do it with a group that represents my LP base – a few family offices, individuals, and people who could give really good advice.
“For first-time funds, you don’t want it to be any more than three to four people. And four to six for more established funds.”
— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund
“My advice to other VCs in building their LPAC would be to remember it’s about institutions, not individuals – your LPs representative might change over the course of the years. And, if applicable, to make sure you have a mix of LP types – for example, if your fund LPs are a mix of evergreen investment offices (such as most endowments) and folks who think of returns on a different cycle (fund of funds), include both.”
— Hunter Walk, Homebrew
The tech stack of engaging LPs
While I didn’t ask everyone this question, thought I’d share what notes I did have on some firms’ tech stack for engaging their LPs and managing their investor relations.
Wischoff Ventures — Airtable, Figma
“A spreadsheet/Airtable — I have everyone’s emails and copy-paste when I’m ready to send a quarterly update. I only talk to most once per quarter and it’s for my update. I built that in Figma (wouldn’t recommend it).”
Oceans Ventures — Affinity
“We use Affinity to manage our LP CRM. Our existing LPs get quarterly reports. And we try to write an LP update at least two times a year but will also often put out memos especially during key market moments. Also, since day one, we have a newsletter that keeps people up to date. It goes out every two to three weeks. And we have a personality. We’ve had other VCs tell us how excited they are to read it and we have LPs tell us they love our newsletter. We try to over-communicate and keep them heavily engaged.”
The 81 Collection — Streak, Airtable, Hubspot, Excel/Google Sheets
“We use Airtable, Hubspot, Excel and Google spreadsheets, but Streak is our main thing.”
“We’re pretty software-heavy — something I picked up from my time at WorkOS. We use:
Cloze — as our CRM, where we track what cities folks are in in, who’s in the pipeline and more
Airtable — for portfolio management
Google Drive
Webflow — for our website
Zapier — but there’s only so much you can automate
1Password — we’re pretty big on security
Calendly — but we’ve gone back and forth on that. I’m trying to spend more time with people who’ve invested in our fund, as well as the founders we invested in.
Twitter
Descript — for podcast transcriptions
Riverside — to record podcast episodes”
1947 Rise — Email, AngelList
“Regular LP updates, as well as my newsletter, have been my biggest engagement tool with LPs. I send the former out once a quarter, and the latter every few weeks. Luckily, I can also see all my LPs on my AngelList dashboard.”
“We used Carta, Affinity, Mailchimp, Aumni for analytics, and Anduin to bring LPs in. Fundraising is a bunch of chasing people down. Anduin’s a workflow tool. You can send people stuff and have people sign them all in one tool. Actually, several LPs told us that Anduin was the smoothest onboarding experience they’d ever had.”
“Mr. Huxley’s” Firm — Airtable, Notion, Whatsapp, Quickbooks, Google Drive
In closing
As I was writing this blogpost, a big part of me wanted a nice, easy linear narrative around LP construction. But I knew there wasn’t. In the many conversations that led to the above writing, it became quite evident there was no undisputed best way — no cure-all — to build an LP base.
Some believed in aiming high and never becoming oversubscribed. Others generated demand for their subsequent fund or was able to be judicious with their LPs by being oversubscribed.
Some built momentum by securing an anchor LP. Others started from individuals they knew the best.
Some didn’t budge on minimum check size. Others were flexible.
The list goes on and on. While there is no right answer, in knowing all of the above possibilities and strategies, I, and everyone who helped me make this blogpost a reality, hope you are armed with the knowledge to make the most informed decision for your fund. And to that, cheers!
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In the wonderful world of venture, an investor takes a different kind of bet with each stage as a function of industry. For instance, a pre-seed SaaS product, it’s a distribution risk. Can this founder sell this product to others? In general, the angel or pre-seed round is often a founder bet. Can this founder or founding team pull off their vision? And subsequently, if they’re able to achieve their milestones in the funding window, will those milestones excite downstream capital?
One of the greatest byproducts in starting my career in venture as a scout — sending seed and Series A deals to those respective investors — was that I learned what archetypes of deals interested them. And what didn’t. As I moved even earlier in the funnel, so, pre-seed and seed, I could help founders and their teams set themselves up for the subsequent round.
Admittedly, that became a bit harder to do in the hoorah of 2020 and 2021 — with insane multiples and raises coming together as a function of FOMO.
When looking at the present day, mid-February of 2023, one in three or four deals in my inbox is a company raising a bridge. The bet here is an execution bet. Now before I get into the questions I consider when a founder pitches a bridge fundraise, I think it’ll be helpful to consider bridge rounds as a function of good and bad markets. And why they make more sense in a bull market, for better or worse, than in a bear market.
Bridge and venture debt
In a bull market, bridge rounds — or preemptive rounds, pick your nomenclature — and pay-to-play rounds make sense. The promise of capital within six months is extremely likely. Interest rates are low enough, where equity instruments have greater return potential than debt instruments. In a similar way, the same can be said for the premise behind venture debt. Venture debt (I am but an armchair expert at best, but have been lucky to query some of the best) is debt that is issued with the expectation of another round. At the same time, the warning label here is in a few-fold:
Many VCs prefer not to have investors higher than them on preference stack.
Subsequent equity raises are used to pay back venture debt first.
You have a 36-month repayment period usually, after if you decide to use the capital within the first 12 months or not.
There are usually warrants that ask for additional ownership in the company on top of the loan.
But I digress. In a bear market, bridge markets make less sense for an investor. Bridge rounds usually occur when teams miss expectations. They’ve missed milestones. Their burn rate was higher than expected. And their runway is naught but less than a year. It’s way the most common recommendation VCs gave their portfolio companies in 2022 was have at least a 24-month runway. You have more wiggle room to prove assumptions and get to an inflection point.
In a bull market, missing expectations is almost impossible. Sky high valuation multiples and funding rounds made capital cheap. When capital’s cheap, founders are more likely to spend with less discipline than otherwise. Moreover, consumers felt richer. Their net worth appreciated in a good economy. Interest rates lag inflationary signs. And the money is out of the pocket before it has time to warm up. Consumers also not only spend more, but they invest more. Companies saw greater revenue numbers and market cap growth, leading to more liberal spending habits. Greater market budgets to acquire customers. That spending led to high burn multiples.
This all led to a virtuous flywheel, that though growth and revenue numbers hit, the cost to get there also exponentially grew. The quality of businesses declined, as consumers and companies got used to the spending habits of the good times. Those same habits, unfortunately, don’t work in a recessionary market. And when founders are unable to part with their multiple in a boom market, and for many, the spend during that same market, they go to raise a bridge round instead of offering new equity, hoping they’ll, in some way, “make it work.” And yes, that’s the exact wording some founders used.
If investors have the chance to place new shots on goal, a lot of investors today are willing to bear the opportunity cost of passing on a bridge round.
Inflection points and lack thereof
Each new round is raised on the assumption your company is at an inflection point. Right as your second derivative shifts from negative to positive. To some businesses, that’s a market inflection. A (lucky) black swan event. A technological release. Or a regulatory easing. To others, it’s a traction inflection. Users just love your product. And to another cohort, not mutually exclusive to the afore-two inflections, is an insight inflection. You’ve learned something that’s going to catapult you so much further. For Duolingo in 2012, it’s the realization of going mobile. For Zynga, in 2010, it was its partnership with a rising class of platform usage, social media, namely Facebook.
On the other hand, for Airbnb, in 2011, its major competitor abroad, Wimdu raised $90 million to focus on its European expansion. That meant if Airbnb didn’t expand outside of the US, they would lose access to a whole market of Europeans but also Americans whose vacation destinations were one of the seven continents. To the Airbnb team, in the words of Jonathan Golden, their first PM, it was the realization that “marketplaces are normally winner-take-all markets” and “when competition comes after you, move ridiculously fast.” And they did.
Bridge rounds often don’t carry that same drive or momentum. It’s not raised at an inflection point, but rather in efforts to get to one. Usually it’s not proving a new assumption but last round’s assumptions. As I mentioned at the top, it’s an execution bet. And as such, it begs the question: How much conviction do I have that a founder is going to be a great steward of capital?
Fortunately or unfortunately, unlike most other early-stage round constructions, there are multiple data points. Have they used capital to date efficiently and effectively? If so, do I believe this founder will 10x their KPIs within this funding window?
Usually the funding window I allude to is 12 to 18 months. In the scenario of a bridge, that timeline becomes six months. The expectations are less forgiving and more aggressive. What are you building to in half a year? Do you have the discipline to execute on that goal? Does your track record corroborate? Do you have a detailed plan to get there?
In closing
IVP’s Tom Loverrorecently shared, “A half measure is usually something a management team lands on because it’s easy. If a decision is easy, it’s probably a half measure. If it’s hard, if it’s really damn hard… if it’s controversial, you’re probably doing enough of it. The other thing is a half measure often doesn’t have an end result or goal in mind. If you have a really specific goal, and implementing that goal is difficult, that’s probably doing your job. That’s probably what’s necessary.”
A bridge round, more often than not, is a half measure.
He goes on to say, “If it’s a good company, give them a lot of capital. If not, zero.”
This past week, I chatted with three institutional LPs, and three more venture investors about this topic. In five out of six conversations, one phrase made its appearance. “Don’t put good money after bad.” And while anecdotal, all six — every single one having participated in bridge rounds at some point in their investing career — concluded money was better spent in new investments than in bridge rounds. The caveat from these conversations was that it may work if you are either leading the round or setting the terms. Then again, that’s favorable for an investor, and may not be as much for the founders.
That said, I’m sure there’ll still be great companies raising bridges. But who knows… I await the day, not just in outliers, that we see bridge rounds trend otherwise. For that to happen, I agree with many of my colleagues that we need to see a lot more discipline from the average founder.
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The views expressed on this blogpost are for informational purposes only. None of the views expressed herein constitute legal, investment, business, or tax advice. Any allusions or references to funds or companies are for illustrative purposes only, and should not be relied upon as investment recommendations. Consult a professional investment advisor prior to making any investment decisions.
