Micro(scopic) 10X Funds

young, kids, students

I wrote both a Twitter thread (I know it’s X now, but habits die hard) and a LinkedIn post recently on student and recent graduate funds. A good friend and I have been seeing a number of small sub-$10M funds run by college students and/or recent grads. And even more since the afore-mentioned social posts came out. In a way, it was my flag in the sand moment inviting additional conversations on the topic.

Full LinkedIn post here. Truncated this to make it easier to read.

The TL;DR version of the post, although the post itself is at most a two-minute read, is that these student funds are interesting. Most will die. But a small, small few will deliver insane returns. As such, as LPs, the underwriting for these funds, where sourcing is extremely predictable (i.e. invest in their peers), needs for these funds to be 10X funds, as opposed to 5X net for the typical seed fund or 3X for the typical Series A fund. Also, we know going in that most, if not all, of these funds won’t be enduring. Most likely one and done.

And so what does the underwriting look like?

I actually elaborated on this in response to a comment that asked what percent of unicorns were founded by students, but thought it made sense to expand here in this blogpost as well.

Venture, at the end of the day, is a game driven by the power law. I’m not the first to say that. And I won’t be the last. In other words, in VC, we are applauded not by our batting average (like buyouts or hedge funds), but by the magnitude of our home runs. We can miss on the vast majority, but as long as we strike one Uber or Coupang or Google or Facebook and it returns multiple times of our portfolio, then… we did it.

To quote a Midas list investor (who’ll go nameless for now, until I have his permission to share his name), who at the time was presenting on stage, “The only reason you are listening to me today is because I’m on the Midas list. And the only reason I’m on the Midas list is because of this one investment I made [redacted] years ago.”

Obviously, there was definitely some modesty there. In fact, he’s hit a number of exits in the years since. Nevertheless, when said in broad strokes, his point stands.

So to the comment that started it all. By numbers, a rather small number of unicorns were founded by active students. I don’t know the exact number (writing this on vacation, and I don’t have Pitchbook access on this small device), but I’m willing to bet that only a small percentage of unicorns are founded by students. And even less when you consider realized unicorn exits. Excluding the crazy markups of 2020-2022. It’s why the average age of a startup founder is 42 at the inception of the company.

That said, “Among the top 0.1% of startups based on growth in their first five years, [an HBR study finds] that the founders started their companies, on average, when they were 45 years old.” In fact, in the same study, they found “[r]elative to founders with no relevant experience, those with at least three years of prior work experience in the same narrow industry as their startup were 85% more likely to launch a highly successful startup.” In a separate Endeavor study, it’s also why there’s only a small sliver of founders with no work experience prior to the founding of their unicorn company.

All that to say, from Alexandr Wang to Jeff Bezos to Mark Zuckerberg to Patrick and John Collison, all were in their early twenties (or earlier) when they started their companies. Each, in their own right, an outlier.

To build a hypothetical portfolio — forgive my generalizations, but doing so for nice, even numbers…

Say one allocates a $10M fund of funds portfolio. It’ll write 10 $1M checks into $5M funds. In other words, for a 20% stake at the fund level. In a bad economy, where $200M is the median ARR to go public, and if we assume a 10x multiple on exit, a $2B unicorn exit in that $5M VC fund returns ~$2.2M in the fund of funds portfolio. 0.6% equity valued at $12M. A 2.4X on the $5M fund alone. And a little over $2.2M back to the LP, as the GP takes 20% carry. This assumes $100K checks, 2% ownership on entry and 70% dilution by the time of exit. Naturally, no reserves. needing about 10-11 unicorns to 2x. A lot to expect for a portfolio of student funds. 10 unicorns out of 400 is quite hard even for most seasoned investors.

And so one must believe that these student funds can find true outliers. And before anyone else. Additionally have enough downstream capital relationships to facilitate intros to funds who will lead current and future rounds. Which luckily for them, a lot of GPs of multi-stage funds are individual LPs in these funds. Playing a pure access approach.

And so, if there’s a $10B exit in one of the VC portfolios, under the same fund strategy assumptions as earlier, a single $10B company exit returns the whole fund of funds portfolio. Every other exit will just be cherries on top. So out of a 400 underlying startup portfolio, only one decacorn exit is needed. Instead of multiple unicorns.

Separately, and worth noting, although I’ll be honest, I haven’t had a single conversation with a young GP where any were as deliberate with their sell strategy as this, there are multiple exit paths today outside of M&A and IPO, most notably secondaries (portfolio and fund) (something that the one and only Hunter Walk wrote recently in a blogpost far more eloquently than I could have put it). And so even in a crazy AI hype right now, there are paths to liquidity in these multi billion valuations at the Series B and C, if not earlier. In the increasing availability of such options, my only hope is that these young fund managers have the wherewithal to be disciplined sellers. Perhaps, an additional reason these young VCs should have LPACs.

A blogpost for another day.

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Why No One’s Marking Down Their Portfolio

In one of the recent All-In podcast episodes, Bill Gurley shared that both VCs and LPs aren’t marking down their portfolios. For GPs, inflated numbers helps you raise the next fund. For LPs, they’re given their “bonus on paper marks. So, they don’t have an incentive to dial around to their GPs and say, ‘Get their marks right.’ ‘Cause it’s actually going to reflect poorly on them if they were to roll those up.”

The last few years, enterprise value has been largely based on multiple expansion. The truth is we’re not going to see much of it in the incoming years. Even AI that’s exploding right now will see a contraction of their multiples in due time.

Companies that should not be in business today will see their ultimatum too in the next few years. Hunter Walk recently wrote “they’re 2017-2021’s normal failures clustered into current times.”

So, while some GPs do pre-emptively mark down their portfolio by 25-30% — we’re seeing this behavior more so in pre-seed and seed funds — the only people in this whole dance that are incented to mark down portfolios are new LPs trying to figure out if they want to commit to a new fund.

Charles Hudson recently shared a beautiful chart:

Source: Charles Hudson’s The number one piece of advice I give to new VCs launching their investing careers

And while the advice applies to newer VCs, the same is true for experienced investors. Of course, most investors aim to be in the upper right-hand corner, but that’s really, really hard. In truth, most notable investors fall in two cohorts: marketers and tastemakers.

Marketers:

  • Share a high volume of deal flow,
  • Lower quality opportunities,
  • Have relatively low conviction on each deal compared to their counterparts, the tastemakers,
  • Have comparatively diversified portfolios,
  • And could have adverse effects on branding and positioning in the market.

Tastemakers, on the other hand:

  • Share a lower volume of deals,
  • Usually higher quality opportunities,
  • Higher conviction per deal,
  • Have comparatively more concentrated portfolios.
  • And the downside may simply be the fact that their volume may not warrant raising a fund around, and might be better off as an opportunistic investor.

And speaking of concentrated versus diversified, the interesting thing, as Samir Kaji shared on his recent podcast episode, is that “at 85 companies [in the portfolio], you had over 90% chance of getting a 2X. But a very low chance at getting anything above a 3X. And with smaller portfolio sizes [between 15-25 companies], there was much higher variance — both on the top and bottom. Higher chance that you perform worse than the median. But a much higher chance of being in the top quartile and even beyond that, in the top decile.”

It’s also so hard to tell what high quality companies look like before the liquidation event. Naturally, high quality funds are even harder to tell before the fund term. It’s ’cause of that that a few LPs and I wrote the post last week on early DPI. But I digress. At the end of the day, many, for better or worse, use valuation and markups as a proxy for quality.

But really, the last week’s valuation in this week’s market environment. Rather than chasing an arbitrary number, a lot more LPs when evaluating net new fund investments, and GPs making net new startup investments, care about the quality of the businesses they invest in. It’s not about the unicorns; it’s about the centaurs. The $100M annualized revenue businesses.

Samir Kaji’s words in 2022 ring true then as they do today. “Mark-downs of prior vintages are starting to occur but will take some time given valuation and reporting lags.” We’re still seeing many who have yet to go back to market. As many say, the flat round is the new up round. But until folks go back to market, there are many who won’t jump the gun in writing down their portfolio. But they are cautioning themselves, so that hopefully they won’t make the same mistakes again. The goalposts have changed.

I’m reminded of Henry McCance’s words channeled through Chris Douvos. “When an asset class works well, capital is expensive and time is cheap. What we saw in the bubble was that capital got cheap and time got expensive.”

We’re now back at a time when capital is expensive and time is cheap.

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Retaining your Best Talent (Part 2)

spark, keeping the spark alive

This is an addendum to the blogpost I wrote back in April of this year. Catalyzed by something Seth Godin recently shared. Which led me down a rabbit hole, and eventually to this sequel.

Seth Godin shared some fascinating perspective recently. “Turnover is a good thing when we are doing human work, not a bad thing. And what I would do if I was running a real company is I would say the first thing you’ve got to do on your first day is update your LinkedIn page and keep it up to date. And we’re going to have a resume job finding seminar every two weeks here. I don’t want you to stay here because you can’t get a better job. I want you to stay here because the conditions we’ve created, the work we are doing is worth you staying here for. And then I would listen.

“If I’m not creating the conditions where the people who I need to be dancing with want to stay, I have to change the conditions, not curse the people who are leaving.”

Which reminds me of a great Jerry Colonna dictum, “How am I complicit in creating the conditions I say I don’t want?” While the line is meant to be applied to an individual’s own awareness of how their environment is partly a product of their own design, it is equally as powerful in organizational design. Have you created an environment that lends itself to turnover? Is that by intention or lack thereof?

While I’m not urging founders to be less disciplined with their burn rate, Precursor’s Charles Hudson found one interesting piece of data recently. He wrote, “You cannot save your way to success. Our portfolio companies that graduated from pre-seed to seed typically spent more per month than those that failed to graduate. This result was consistent with what I’ve observed; the companies finding product-market fit spend more to keep up with growth and customer demand.”

While the above may be true when you graduate from the pre-seed to the seed, by the time you get to the A, it’s about securing great talent.

But let’s say your star talent has left (meaning that they passed the equivalent of Netflix’s Keeper test or any of these other culture tests). The one thing you DO have to be wary of is the morale of those who stay. Has your team members leaving broken the morale of the company? How fast can you get the team to bounce back?

To set some context, Frank Slootman defines winning as breaking the competitors’ will to fight. “In a world of software, you break the enemy’s will to fight when you are hiring their people because they have given up. They’d rather be with you than they are with the other company, because it’s too hard and too painful and they’re not making any money. So, ‘I’m going to join the winner instead of stick with delusion.'” And in Bezos’ words, “when the last person with good judgment gives up,” your team’s will has been broken.

Each team member leaving has a non-zero chance of creating this snowball effect. As the founder, maintaining culture and momentum is important. As Bob Iger once said, “[The] most important measures of success for a CEO [are] internal satisfaction, investor relations and consumer support.” In my experience, the first of the three is often far less obvious to first-time founders than the latter two.

So how does one maintain internal satisfaction?

The truth is there’s no one right answer. So, instead, I’ll share some tactics I’ve seen work well.

  • The last day for someone should be on Friday. It gives teammates the weekend to unwind and doesn’t affect their work ethic in the weekdays immediately after.
  • Set up 1:1 time with all their direct reports and who they reported to (if the latter person isn’t you) within the week after that person’s last day. While the obvious next steps may be to figure out the new chain of command and reporting structure, the first conversation you have with them should be about how they’re feeling and not about company goals. And have an honest, unfiltered conversation here. Which also means you need to share how you’re feeling as well. Don’t sugarcoat anything. Smart people see through lies very easily.
  • Offer each direct report to that person a mentor. Either internally in the company or externally. For the latter, there is immense value in helping your team member grow and getting an advisor or someone in your network you respect to get more involved in the company through monthly/quarterly mentorship.

As always, hope you find this helpful.

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Another 99 Pieces of Unsolicited, (Possibly) Un-googleable Startup Advice

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Voila, the fourth installation of 99 soundbites I’ve been fortunate enough to collect over the past year. The first four of what I imagine of many more to come. Each of which fall under one of the ten categories below, along with how many pieces of advice for each category:

  1. Fundraising (30)
  2. Cash flow levers (23)
  3. Culture (11)
  4. Hiring (9)
  5. Governance (7)
  6. Product (5)
  7. Competition (5)
  8. Brand/Marketing/GTM (4)
  9. Legal (1)
  10. The hard questions (4)

You can also find the first three installments of 99 pieces of advice for both founders and investors here. Totaling us to a total of 396 pieces of advice.

But without further ado…

Fundraising

1/ If you’re an early stage startup, expect fundraising to take at least 3-4 months to raise <$1M. If you’re on the fast side, it may take only 2 weeks. – Elizabeth Yin *timestamped April 2022

2/ If you’re going to raise a round over 6-12 months, it often doesn’t seem fair that your first commits have the same terms as those who commit 6 months later, since you’ve grown and most likely have more traction at the time. As such, reward your early investors with preferred terms. Say you’re raising a $1M round. Break the round up to $300K and $700K. Offer a lower cap on SAFEs for the $300K. “Tell everyone that that offer will only be available until X date OR until you hit $300k in signed SAFEs. And that the cap will most likely go up after that.” Why? It lets you test demand and the pricing on the cap – to see if you’re cap is too high or too low on the first tranche. – Elizabeth Yin

3/ As a startup in recessionary times, you have to grow your revenue faster than valuations are falling to make sure you raise your next round on a mark up. Inspired by David Sacks and Garry Tan. *timestamped April/May 2022

4/ There’s only going to be 1/3 the amount of capital in the markets than in 2020 and 2021. So plan accordingly. If you’re not a top 0.1% startup, plan for longer runways. Fund deployments have been 1-1.3 years over the past 1.5 years, and it’s highly likely we’re going to see funds return back to the 3-year deployment period as markets tighten. *timestamped May 2022

5/ B2B startups that have the below disqualifiers will find it hard to raise funding in a correcting venture market:

  1. No to little growth. Good growth is at least doubling year-over-year.
  2. Negative or low gross margins. Good margins start at 50%.
  3. CAC payback periods are longer than one year.
  4. Burn multiples greater than 2 (i.e. You’re burning $2 for every dollar you bring in). A good burn multiple is 1 or less.
    David Sacks

6/ Beware of “dirty term sheets.” Even though you’re able to get the valuation multiple you want, read the fine print for PIK dividends, simple “blocks” on IPO/M&A, and 2-3x liquidation preferences. Inspired by Bill Gurley.

7/ “This came at a very expensive valuation with certain rights that should not have come with it — like participating preferred, which is they first get their money out and then they participate in the rest, which was OK for the earlier rounds, but not for the later ones.” – Sabeer Bhatia in Founders at Work

8/ In a bear market, public market multiples are the reference points, not outlier private market multiples. Why? Public market multiples are their exit prices – how they return the fund. It matters less so in bull markets. – David Sacks

9/ Don’t trust the “why”, trust the “no.” Investors don’t always give the most honest responses when they turn down a company.

10/ If you inflate your projections, the only investors you’ll attract are dumb investors. They’ll be with you when things are going well and make your life a living nightmare when things aren’t, will offer little to no sound advice, and may distract you from building what the market needs. By inflating your projections, you will only be optimizing for the battle, and may lose the war if you can’t meet or beat your projections.

11/ VCs will always want you to do more than you are pitching. So if you’re overpromising, they’re raising their expectations even more down the road.

12/ Five questions you should answer in a pitch deck:

  1. If you had billboard, what 10 words describe what you do?
  2. What insight development have you had that others have not?
  3. How you acquire customers in a way others can’t?
  4. Why you?
  5. What you need to prove/disprove to raise next round?
    Harry Stebbings

13/ The longer you’re on the market, the greater the differential between expectations and reality, and the harder it is over time to close your round. Debug early on in the fundraising process (or even before the fundraising process) by setting and defining expectations through:

  1. Preempting FAQs, by defusing them early on.
  2. Leveraging market comparables. You don’t have to be good at everything, but you have be really really amazing at one thing your competitors aren’t. It’s okay if they’re better than you in other parts.

14/ You should reserve 10% of your round to allocate to your most helpful existing investors. Reward investors for their help. – Zach Coelius

15/ If your next round’s investor is willing to screw over your earlier investors out of pro rata or otherwise. After they leave, the only one left to screw over is you. – Jason Calacanis

16/ “Nobody’s funding anything that needs another round after them.” – Ben Narasin quoting Scott Sandell

17/ “When a VC turns you down for market size, what they are really saying is: I don’t believe you as the founder has what it takes to move into adjacent and ancillary markets well.” – Harry Stebbings

18/ When raising from corporates, be mindful of corporate incentives, which may limit your business and exit opportunities. “I’ve often seen the structure just simply be a SAFE with no information rights. No Board seats. Check sizes that are worth < 5% ownership. No access to trade secrets.” – Elizabeth Yin

19/ LOIs mean little to many investors, unless there’s a deposit attached to it. A customer must want the product so much they’re willing to take the risk of putting money down before they get it. 1-5% deposit would be interesting, but if they pay the product in full, you would turn investor heads. – Jason Calacanis

20/ “The most popular software for writing fiction isn’t Word. It’s Excel.” – Brian Alvey

21/ “Ask [prospective investors] about a recent investment loss, where the company picked someone else. See how they describe those founders, the process, and what they learned. This tells you what that investor is like when things don’t go their way.” – Nikhil Basu Trivedi

22/ “Founders, please hang onto at least 60% of the company’s equity through your seed raise. Series A or B is the first time founder equity should dip below 50%. I’ve seen cap tables recently where investors took too much equity early on, creating financing risk down the road.” – Gale Wilkinson

23/ “One of the worst things you can say to a VC is ‘we’re not growing because we’re fundraising.’ There are no excuses in fundraising.” – Jason Lemkin. Fundraising is a full-time job, but when you’re competing in a saturated market of attention, it’s you who’s fundraising, but not growing, versus another founder who’s also fundraising and is growing.

24/ Extraordinarily difficult fundraise = extraordinary investment 7/10 times. – Geoff Lewis

25/ The goalposts of fundraising (timestamped Oct 20, 2022 by Andrea Funsten):

  1. Pre-seed: $750K-1.5M round
    • Valuation: $5-10M post (*She would not go over $7M)
    • Traction:
      • A working MVP
      • Indications of customer demand = have interviewed hundreds of potential customers or users
      • 2-5 “Design Partners” (non-paying customers or users)
  2. Seed: $2-5M round
    • Valuation: $12-25M post (*She would not go over $15M)
    • Traction:
      • $10-15K MRR, growing 10% MoM
      • 6-12 customers who have been paying for ~6 months or more, a few that would serve as case studies and references
      • Hired first technical AE
  3. Series A: $8-15M round
    • Valuation: “anyone’s guess”
    • Traction:
      • $1.5M in ARR is good, more like $2M
      • 3x YoY growth minimum, but more like 3.5x • 12-20 customers, indications of ACV growth
      • Sales team in place to implement the repeatable sales playbook

26/ Don’t take on venture debt unless you have revenue AND an experienced CFO. – Jason Calacanis

27/ When you are choosing lead investor term sheets:

  1. For small VC teams (team <10ppl): Make sure your sponsoring partner is your champion. Why does investing in you align with their personal thesis? Their life thesis? Which other teams do they spend time with? How much time do they spend with them? When things don’t go according to plan, how do they react? How do they best relay expectations and feedback to their portfolio founders?
  2. For larger platform teams (team >10ppl): Ask to talk to the 3-5 best people at the firm. And when the investor asks you to define “best”, ask to talk to their team members who best represent the firm’s culture and thesis. Why? a/ This helps you best understand the firm’s culture and if there’s investor-founder fit. b/ You get to know the best people on the team. And will be easier to hit them up in the future.

28/ “If you are a category-defining company, you will always have a TAM question, if the category is defined by somebody else, you will not have a TAM question.” – Abhiraj Bhal

29/ “[Venture] debt typically has a 48-54 month term, as follows: 12 months of a draw period (ballooned to 18 months over the last few years), to which you can decide to use it or not 36 months to amortize it after that 12 months. The lender at this stage is primarily underwriting to venture risk, meaning they are relying on the venture investor syndicate to continue to fund through a subsequent round of financing.” This debt is likely to be paired with language that allow the fund to default if investors say they won’t fund anymore and/or just not to fund when asked. “They typically are getting 10bps-50bps of equity ownership through warrants. Loss rates must be <3-4% for the model to work.” If there’s less than 6 months of runway or cash dips below outstanding debt, then as a founder, expect a lot of distracting calls. – Samir Kaji

30/ The best way to ask for intros to investors is not by asking for intros, but by hosting an event and having friends invite investors to the event. There’s less friction in an event invite ask than an investor intro ask. The reality is that the biggest investors are inundated with intro requests all the time, if not just by cold email too.

Cash flow levers

31/ The bigger your customers’ checks are (i.e. enterprise vs. SMB vs consumer), the longer the sales pipeline. The longer the sales pipeline, the longer you, the founder, has to stay the Head of Sales. For enterprise, the best founders stay VP of Sales until $10M ARR. For SMB, that’s about $1-2M ARR, before you hire a VP of Sales. Inspired by Jason Lemkin.

32/ “‘I have nothing to sell you today — let’s take that off the table and just talk,’ he would say. ‘My goal is to earn the right to have a relationship with you, and I know it’s my responsibility to earn that right.'” The sales playbook of David Beirne of Benchmark Capital fame, cited in eBoys.

33/ “All things being equal, a heavy reliance on marketing spend will hurt your valuation multiple.” – Bill Gurley

34/ If you were to double or triple the price of your product, what percent of customers would churn? If the answer is anything south of 50%, why aren’t you doing it?

35/ Getting big customers and raising capital is often a chicken-and-egg game. Sometimes, you need brand name customers, before you can raise. And other times, you need capital before you can build at the scale for brand name customers. So, when I read about Vinod Khosla’s advice for Joe Kraus: “We had $1 million in the bank and we didn’t know what we were going to bid. We sat down in my office, all on the floor. Vinod said we should bid $3 million. I was like, ‘How do we bid $3 million? We only have $1 million in the bank.’ And he said, ‘Well, if we win, I’m pretty sure we can raise it, but if we don’t win, I don’t know how we’re going to raise.'”

36/ “Your ability to raise money is your strategy. If you’re great at it, build any business with network effects. If you’re bad at fundraising, it’s strategically better to build a subscription business with no network effects.” – Elizabeth Yin

37/ Be willing to fire certain customers (when things get tough or in an economic downturn). If they aren’t critical strategic partners or are loss making, figure out how to make them profitable. If you can, renegotiate contracts, like cheaper contracts for longer durations. If not, let them go. Make it easy to offboard.

38/ An average SaaS business, that doesn’t have product-led growth, is spending about 50% of revenue on sales and marketing. Those that are in hyper growth are spending 60%. – Jason Lemkin

39/ “The only thing worse than selling nothing is selling a few. If you sell nothing, you stick a bullet in it and move on. When you sell a few, you get hope. People keep funding even though it’s really not viable.” – Frank Slootman

40/ If your customer wants to cancel their auto-renew subscription to your product, you should refund them a 100% of their cost. – Jason Lemkin

41/ “Your price isn’t too high. Your perceived value is too low.” – Codie Sanchez

42/ “15-20% of IT spend is in the cloud.” And it’s likely to go up. – Alex Kayyal

43/ If your customers are willing to pay you way ahead of when your service is executed, you have an unfair and unparalleled cashflow advantage. – Harry Stebbings

44/ If you’re in the CPG business, it’s better to negotiate down the contract. “You buy 75, and you sell 60, they’re going to go, ‘Ah, I got 15,000 in inventory, it’s not a success.’ If you give them 40, and then they have to buy another 20, and they sell 60, they go, ‘Wow, we ordered 50 [(I think he meant 20)] more than our original order.’ You’re still at 60, but one, they’re disappointed, and one, they’re not. You’re still playing some weird mind games a little bit so that they feel good about whatever number was there.” – Todd McFarlane

45/ “If you are under 100 customer/users, get 20 of them in a Whatsapp Group. You will:

  • Get much higher quality feedback, faster, on the current product.
  • They will be WAY more proactive in suggesting future product ideas and helping you shape the product roadmap.
  • It will create a closer relationship between you and them and they will become champions of the product and company. People like to feel they had a hand in the creation process.”
    Harry Stebbings

46/ Create multiple bank accounts with different banks to keep your cash, to hedge against the risk of a bank run. The risk is very unlikely to occur, but non-zero, especially in a recessionary market. Inspired by SVB on March 10, 2023. More context here, and what happened after here. Breakdowns here, here and here.

47/ “Keep two core operating accounts, each with 3-6 months of cash. Maintain a third account for “excess cash” to be invested in safe, liquid options to generate slightly more income.” – A bunch of firms

48/ “Maintain an emergency line of credit. Obtain a line of credit from one of  your core banks that can fund the company for 6 months. Do not touch it unless necessary.” – A bunch of firms

49/ In case of a bank run: “1/ Freeze outgoing payments, let vendors know you need 60 days, 2/ Figure out payroll & let your investors know exactly when cash out, 3/ Attempt emergency bridge with existing investors; hopefully reasonable terms or senior debt (but given valuation reset this is a HARD discussion for many), 4/ Figure out who can take deferred salary on management team, which will extend runway, 5/ Make sure you communicate reality to team honestly so they can make similar plan for their household, 6/ Make sure you talk to HR about legal issues around payroll shortfall — which hopefully this doesn’t come to, 7/ In future, keep cash in 3 different banks.” – Jason Calacanis

50/ “Whenever a CEO blames their bad performance on the economy, I knew I had a really crappy CEO. ‘Cause it wasn’t the economy, it was a bad product-market fit. The dogs didn’t wanna eat the dogfood. Sometimes the economy can make that a little worse, but if people are desperate for your product, it doesn’t matter if the times are good or bad, they’re going to buy your product.” – Andy Rachleff

51/ General reference points for ACV and time to close are: $1K in 1 week. $10K in 1 month. $100K in 3 months. $300K in 6 months. And $1M in 12 months. – Brian Murray

52/ A B2B salesperson’s script from Seth Godin. “Look, you’ve told me you have this big problem you need to solve. You have a five million assembly line that’s letting you down, blah blah. If we can solve this problem together, are you ready to install our system? Because if it’s not real, let’s not play. Don’t waste my time, I won’t waste yours. You’re not going to buy from me because I’m going to take you to the golf course. You’re not going to buy from me because our RFP is going to come in cheaper than somebody else’s. You want my valuable time? I’m going to engage with you, and tell you the truth and you’ll tell me the truth. You’re going to draw your org chart for me. You’re going to tell me other complicated products you’ve bought and why your company bought them. And I’m going to get you promoted by teaching you how to buy the thing that’s going to save your assembly line. Let’s get real or let’s not play.” – Seth Godin

53/ “The job of a pre-seed founder is to turn investor dollars into insights that get the company closer to finding product-market fit.” – Charles Hudson

Culture

54/ Deliver (bad) news promptly. Keep to a schedule. The longer you delay, the more you lose your team’s confidence in you. For example, if your updates come out every other Friday, and you miss a few days, your team members notice. Your team is capable of taking the tough news. This is what they signed up for. Explain a stumble before it materially impacts your bottom line – revenue. Inspired by Jason Lemkin.

55/ “Process saves us from the poverty of our intentions.” – Seth Godin quoting Elizabeth King

56/ “It’s easier, even fun, to do something hard when you believe you’re doing something that no one else can. It’s really hard to go to work every day to build the same thing, or an even worse version, of what others are already building. As a result, there was a huge talent drain from the company.” – Packy McCormick

57/ Lead your team with authenticity and transparency. “Employees have a ridiculously high bullshit detector, more so than anyone externally, because they know you better. They know the internal brand better.” So you have to be honest with them. “Here’s what we’re going to tell you. Here’s what we won’t, and here’s why.” Set clear expectations and leave nothing to doubt. – Nairi Hourdajian

58/ When someone ask Jeff Bezos, when does an internal experiment get killed? He says, “When the last person with good judgment gives up.” – Bill Gurley citing Jeff Bezos

59/ “Getting too high on a ‘yes’ can prepare you for an even bigger fall at the next ‘no.’ Maintaining your composure in the high moments can be just as important as not getting too down in the low moments.” – Amber Illig

60/ “Most have an unlimited policy paired with a results-driven culture. This means it’s up to the employee to manage their time appropriately. For example, no one bats an eye when the top performing sales person takes a 3 week vacation. But if someone is not pulling their weight and vacationing all the time, the perception is that they’re not cut out for a startup.” – Amber Illig

61/ “Whenever we’re dealing with a problem and we call a meeting to talk about the problem, I always start with this structure. We are here to solve a problem. So the one option that we know we’re not going to leave the room doing is the status quo. That is off the table. So whenever we finish this meeting, I want to talk about what option we’re taking, but it’s not going to be what we’re currently doing.” – Tobi Lutke

62/ “[Peter Reinhardt] would put plants in different parts of the office in order for the equilibrium of oxygen and CO2 to be the same. He would put noise machines in the perfectly placed areas and then reallocate the types of teams that needed to be by certain types of noise so that the decibel levels were consistent. What I don’t think people realize about founders is that they are maniacal about the details. They are unbelievable about the things that they see.” – Joubin Mirzadegan

63/ “Leadership is disappointing people at a rate they can absorb.” – Claire Hughes Johnson

64/ Page 19 Thinking: If you were to crowdsource the writing of a book, someone has to start inking the 19th page. And it’s gotta be good, but you can’t make it great on the first try. So you have to ask someone else to make it better, and they have to ask another to make their edits even better. And so on. Until page 19 looks like a real page 19. “Once you understand that you live in a page 19 world, the pressure is on for you to put out work that can generously be criticized. Don’t ship junk, not allowed, but create the conditions for the thing you’re noodling on to become real. That doesn’t happen by you hoarding it until it’s perfect. It happens by you creating a process for it to get better.” – Seth Godin

Hiring

65/ Hiring when your valuation is insanely high is really hard. Their options could very much be valueless, since they would depend on the next valuation being even higher, which either means you grow faster than valuations fall (market falls in a bear market) or you extend your runway before you need to fundraise again.

66/ It’s easier to retain great talent in a recession, but much harder to retain them during an expansionary market. Talent in a boom market have too many options. There’s more demand than there is supply of talent in a boom market.

67/ If you’re a company with low employee churn, you can afford to wait a while longer to find someone who is 20% better in the role. – Luis von Ahn

68/ “[Fractional CMOs and CROs often] want to be strategists.  Tell you where to focus, and what to do better. But the thing is, what you almost always just need is a great full-time leader to implement all the ideas.” – Jason Lemkin. The only time it works is when the fractional exec owns the KPI and the function, where they work at least 60% of the time OR they work part-time and help you hire a full-time VP.

69/ Hire your first full-time comms person after you hit product-market fit, when you are no longer finding your first customers, but looking to grow your customer base. – Nairi Hourdajian

70/ “Ask [a high-performing hire] if there’s someone senior in her career that’s been a great manager, and if so, bring them on as an equity-compensated advisor to your company. If there’s someone in industry she really admires but doesn’t yet know, reach out to them on her behalf.” Give her an advisor equity budget, so they can bring on a mentor or someone they really respect in the industry. As a founder, create a safe space for both of them. Monthly 1:1s and as-needed tactical advice, introductions, and so on. And don’t ask that mentor to give performance feedback “because if so it’s less likely they’ll have honest, open conversations.” – Hunter Walk

71/ Hire talent over experience for marketing and product. “In marketing and product I prefer people with less experience and a lot of talent so we can teach them how we do things. They don’t have to unlearn anything about how they already work. We teach them how we work. For developers it might be different because it takes a lot of time to be a really good developer, and it’s relatively easy moving from one environment to another.” – Avishai Abrahami

72/ If you’re going to use an executive search firm to hire an exec, ask the firm three questions: “1/ Walk me through your hardest search? 2/ Walk me through a failed search? 3/ Why did it fail? 4/ How do you assess whether an exec is a good fit?” You should be interviewing the firm as much as the candidate. Watch out for “a firm with a history of candidates leaving in a short timeframe. Avoid firms that recycle the same execs.” – Yin Wu

73/ Before signing with any recruiting agency, ask “What happens if the person hired is a bad fit? (Many firms will restart the search to align incentives.) Is there a time limit for the search? (Some firms cap the search at 6 months. We’ve worked with firms without caps.)” – Yin Wu

Governance

74/ “The higher the frequency and quality of a young startup’s investor update, the more likely they are to succeed in the long run.” – Niko Bonatsos

75/ Five metrics you should include in your monthly investor updates:

  • Monthly revenue and burn, in a chart, for the whole year
  • Cash in the bank, at a specific date, and runway based on that
  • Quarterly performance for the past 8 quarters, in a chart
  • Target for the quarter AND year and how you are trending toward it
  • Headcount
    Jason Calacanis

76/ Another reason to send great, consistent investor updates is that when prospective investors backchannel, you want to set your earlier investors up for success on how they pitch you.

77/ If you don’t have a board yet, still have an “investor meeting.” “Create investor meetings where you invite all your investors to do an in-person + Google Hangout’ed review every 60 days.  They don’t have to come.  But they can.” – Jason Lemkin

78/ “[The] most important measures of success for a CEO [are] internal satisfaction, investor relations and consumer support.” – Bob Iger

79/ “Entrepreneurs have control when things work; VCs have control when they don’t.” – Fred Wilson

80/ If an investor really wants their money back (usually when VCs have buyer’s remorse), there are times when they force you to sell or shut down your companies. Instead, ask them, “What would it take to get you off my cap table?” – Chris Neumann

Product

81/ “The ones that focus, statistically, win at a much higher rate than the ones that try to do two or three things at once.” – Bruce Dunlevie, cited in eBoys

82/ Once you launch, you’re going to be measured against how quickly you can ramp up to $1M ARR. One year is good. Nine months is great.

83/ The more layers of friction in the onboarding process (i.e. SSN, email address, phone number, survey questions), the better you know your user, but the higher the dropoff rate. For PayPal, for every step a user had to take to sign up, there was a dropoff rate of 30%. – Max Levchin in Founders at Work

84/ “Product-market fit can be thought of as progressively eliminating all Herbies until there are no more Herbies. Then, you’re in a mode where you can invest in growth because it’s frictionless.” – Mike Maples Jr. (In the book, The Goal, the trek is often delayed by a large kid called Herbie. As you can imagine, the group only moves as quickly as their weakest link.)

85/ “There’s a ruthlessness in the way Dylan finds sources, uses them and moves on.” – No Direction Home. Be ruthless about how knowledgeable you can be about your customers, about your problem space, and about your product. The knowledge compounds.

Competition

86/ “If you patent [software], you make it public. Even if you don’t know someone’s infringing, they will still be getting the benefit. Instead, we just chose to keep it a trade secret and not show it to anyone.” – Max Levchin in Founders at Work

87/ If you know you’re building in a hot space, and your competitors are being bought by private equity firms, share that with your (prospective) investors. The competitors’ innovation slows, and optimizing for profit and the balance sheet becomes a priority when PE firms come in. – David Sacks

88/ “As a startup, you always want to compete against someone who has ‘managed dissatisfaction at the heart of their business model.” – Marc Randolph

89/ “You cannot overtake 15 cars in sunny weather… but you can when it’s raining.” – Ayrton Senna. It’s easier to overtake your competitors in tough markets than great markets.

90/ “Having a real, large competitor is better than having none at all!” – Anna Khan

Brand/Marketing/GTM

91/ If you’re a consumer product, your goal should be to become next year’s hottest Halloween costume. Your goal shouldn’t be fit into a social trend, but to define one.

92/ Don’t be married to the name of your company. 40% of NFX‘s early stage investments change their names after they invest in the seed.

93/ The viral factor doesn’t take into account the time factor of virality. In other words, how long it takes for users to bring on non-users. Might be better instead to use an exponential formula. “Think of a basic exponential equation: X to the Y power. X is the branching factor, in each cycle how many new people do you spread to. Y is the number of cycles you can execute in a given time period. The path to success is typically the combination of a high branching factor combined with a fast cycle time.” – Adam Nash

94/ In a down market, you may not need as big of a marketing budget as you thought. Your competitors are likely not spending as much, if at all, to win the same keywords as before.

95/ “Nothing is more expensive than a cheap lawyer.” – Nolan Church

The hard questions

96/ “I’d love to kill it and I’d hate to kill it. You know that emotion is exactly the emotion you feel when it’s time to shut it down.” – Andy Rachleff, cited in eBoys

97/ “Inexperienced founders are usually too slow to fire bad people. Here’s a trick that may help. Have all the cofounders separately think of someone who should probably be fired, then compare notes. If they all thought of the same person…” – Paul Graham

98/ When you’re in crisis, find your OAR. Overcorrect, action, retreat. Overcorrect, do more than you think you need to. For instance, lay off more than you think you need to. Actions can’t only be with words. Words are cheap after all. And retreat, know when it’s time to take a step back. “Sometimes you just have to do your time in the barrel. When you’re in the barrel, you stay in the barrel. And then you slowly come out of it.” – Nairi Hourdajian

99/ “A half measure is usually something a management team lands on because it’s easy. If a decision is easy, it’s probably a half measure. If it’s hard, if it’s really damn hard… if it’s controversial, you’re probably doing enough of it. The other thing is a half measure often doesn’t have an end result or goal in mind. If you have a really specific goal, and implementing that goal is difficult, that’s probably doing your job. That’s probably what’s necessary.” – Tom Loverro

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Another 99 Pieces of Unsolicited, (Possibly) Ungooglable Advice For Investors

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In an industry that is heavily apprenticeship-driven, the more tactical advice one gets, the faster they grow. Historically, that meant a senior partner taking you under their wing. Or maybe 2-3. While I’ve been lucky to work and learn alongside some of the world’s most exceptional minds in the funding landscape, I’ve always found it helpful to have multiple teachers. Some in the form of books. Others in the form of shorter form content. Tweets. Social posts. Podcasts. And of course, from the insightful conversations that I have weekly. At the same time, in hopes of supporting the growth of others in this industry (such a small world, but it just isn’t helpful enough), this blog has been and will continue to be my vehicle for stewarding information and insights from the best.

Just like in both of my initial pieces of 99 pieces of advice for investors and founders I wrote in April 2022, this will be a continuation and an evolution of the last. While this will cover more of the same topics as last time, like startup investing, pitching to LPs, and fund strategy, I’m personally really excited about the some new categories, like succession planning, tax, and how to think about exiting positions.

And while I do write long form posts most of the time, and have been guilty of well… longerrrrrr form essays (and maybe one day with even more r’s), like this or this… I digress. While I do enjoy long form expositions, some things are best shared without superfluousness.

Most of the advice below captures the essence of a TikTok or Instagram Reel or a YouTube short. Choose your fancy. Many of which answers the age-old podcast question: “If you were to share one piece of advice with your [insert age]-year old self, what would it be?” Or “What advice would you give someone starting their first fund today?

And now with “new and improved UI” (don’t get too excited, just number count of soundbites in each category), each fall in one of ten categories:

  1. General advice (7)
  2. Investing — Deal flow, theses, diligence (19)
  3. Value add (6)
  4. Pitching to LPs (21)
  5. Fund strategy/portfolio construction (23)
  6. Selling positions (5)
  7. LP management (8)
  8. SPVs/Syndicates (5)
  9. Succession planning (2)
  10. Tax planning (3)

General advice

1/ You can’t be in every good deal, but every deal you’re in better be good.

2/ “You’re not defined by your worst investment. All angels will have failures in their portfolio. It’s part of the process.” – Brian Rumao

3/ “The weird thing is when late stage went from the hardest part of venture to the easiest. And that should have been the flag to everybody.” – Jason Lemkin *timestamped May 2022

4/ “The older you get, the younger your mentors should be.” – Samir Kaji

5/ “Your brand is what people say about you when you’re not in the room. It’s their first reaction when they see an email from you in their inbox. You build that brand — or not — with every interaction.” – Chris Fralic

6/ “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” – Winston Churchill

7/ When there’s risk involved, don’t let the outcome determine the quality of your decision. – Andy Rachleff

Investing — Deal flow, theses, diligence

8/ When assessing startups against their incumbents, consider their incumbents’ ability to hire top talent. For instance, if the incumbents are banks that are known for slower logistical and bureaucratic procedures, it’s easy to hire the best talent out there. On the other hand, if the incumbents are Coinbase, that’s still a fairly young, sexy company that’s innovating quickly, hiring top (technical) talent is more challenging. Shared by a former executive and founder with 2 exits, turned fund manager with 2 funds.

9/ If you’re not getting a call from a founder when they’re in trouble, you’re probably not getting a call from a founder when they’re raising their next big round. – Zach Coelius

10/ Pick great market inflection points to bet on. “The founder is the surfer. The product is the surfboard. The market is the wave. The wave matters most.” If you bet on a good surfer on a bad wave, they’re not going to get you the returns you want. Some Sequoia partner.

11/ Ask for investor updates (before investing). Before you invest, ask for the most recent investor updates. Helps you understand how founders think and communicate. – Brian Rumao

12/ Align with the founders, but also employees on valuations and dilution. – Nikhil Basu Trivedi

13/ The earlier you invest and the more you care about ownership, the more active role you’re expected to take in your portfolio company. You can’t expect to take large ownerships, and not actively help anymore. If you want to be a hands-off investor, you don’t have a right to fight for ownership. In a bull market, founders get picky about who’s on their cap table (as they should be). Focus on your check size to helpfulness (CS:H) ratio. Inspired by Jason Lemkin.

14/ “We have no fear. If we could find God’s phone number, we’d call him.” – David Beirne of Benchmark Capital fame, cited in eBoys. You are never too good to cold-call.

15/ Create a list of your favorite builders (i.e. engineers, community managers, executives, etc.). Then scrape Delaware incorporation docs regularly to see if any on the former list pop up in the search. If so, reach out to them early.

16/ Ask the founders to see different versions of the pitch deck. While we always say, “investors invest in lines, not dots”, oftentimes it’s hard to measure the slope (rather than y-intercept) when you’re meeting only with a founder at the beginning of their fundraise and not sooner. But one way to see is watch how much the pitch decks changed over time (and how quickly the founders incorporated feedback).

17/ Invest in companies that will be timeless. Where there will still be customers in a recession.

18/ If the competitors of the startup are being bought by private equity firms, then it may be a lucrative space to invest into. The competitors’ innovation slows, and optimizing for profit and the balance sheet becomes a priority when PE firms come in. – David Sacks

19/ There is a superpower to be speaking the same native language as the founders you back (and for them to their customers). Try to understand them for their position of strength.

20/ “The market you’re exiting in is not the one you’re funding now.” – Ben Narasin

21/ “There’s another phenomenon that happens in a time like this: Google’s not hiring. Facebook’s not hiring. People are clamping down. Guess what happens to their most advanced projects? They go. And guess who are the best people in any large company? The best people are working on the most advanced projects. They are the ones who want to do visionary things. They’re the fodder entrepreneur for venture capitalists. So I think many more of the best people — not because they’re not getting paid huge raises in compensation — but because they’re working on less interesting projects — will leave to follow their vision.” – Vinod Khosla (timestamped Oct 28, 2022)

22/ “Process saves us from the poverty of our intentions.” – Seth Godin quoting Elizabeth King

23/ “Funny people are really underrated. […] Charismatic leaders are pretty funny. Humor is a really important emotion for two reasons. One is if you can evoke it a lot and be funny, you can create a sense of bonding. Generally speaking, in a remote world, there is a shortage of emotions you feel. An exchange between us now as we stare at each other in our computer monitors is maybe 1/100th of what it would have been in the real world. When you think about it, why do movies succeed? Movies substitute the real world interaction with synthetic emotion. So… horror, humor, action, drama. So you want leaders who can do the same over Zoom. That’s why Peloton instructors have all the jokes that they’re saying. It’s same exact effect.

“But there is a second reason to why humor matters, which is if you were to imagine a Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, I at least find with myself, I’m not able to think of a joke if basic stuff isn’t right. […] You do have to be careful of the ‘court jester’ type. These are people who are so insecure that they’ll do anything to get a [cheap] laugh.” – Daniel Gross. For example, cursing or vulgar jokes or making fun of others are examples of cheap laughter.

24/ For follow-on checks, Founders Fund and Saastr invest 10% of the fund in each of their “winners”. – Jason Lemkin

25/ “Whenever a CEO blames their bad performance on the economy, I knew I had a really crappy CEO. ‘Cause it wasn’t the economy, it was a bad product-market fit. The dogs didn’t wanna eat the dogfood. Sometimes the economy can make that a little worse, but if people are desperate for your product, it doesn’t matter if the times are good or bad, they’re going to buy your product.” – Andy Rachleff

26/ “[Peter Reinhardt] would put plants in different parts of the office in order for the equilibrium of oxygen and CO2 to be the same. He would put noise machines in the perfectly placed areas and then reallocate the types of teams that needed to be by certain types of noise so that the decibel levels were consistent. What I don’t think people realize about founders is that they are maniacal about the details. They are unbelievable about the things that they see.” – Joubin Mirzadegan

Value add

27/ Everyone says they’re a value add investor or founder friendly. And every founder goes through these 10-15 moments in their founder journey from which they lose sleep over. How many of your portfolio founders call you first if shit hits the fan? Those will be who you’re remembered by. No other portfolio founders will remember you.

28/ The network you bring is table stakes. That will neither help you win deals or raise LP capital when it really matters.

29/ “Dirty secret of VC platform teams: they are more about scaling the GP than the founder.” – Sarah Tavel

30/ Are you uniquely positioned to get allocation on the cap table because you can be a value add to these companies? – Vijen Patel

31/ Sometimes the most helpful thing you can do is to say no. When founders ask for introductions, and you don’t think they’re a good fit for your investor network, “It’ll be tough for you to fundraise right now. And if you jump in a conversation now with these other investors, it’ll hurt your ability to fundraise when you finally iron out those 1-2 key metrics and get to that inflection point.”

32/ Before the term sheet is signed, sit down with them and say this. “‘Listen. The chances this company gets to the finish line – the finish line being this fantastic exit – we don’t know what they are. But what I do know is that there is a chance, a high probability, that the company will fail. And I want you to think about this as an opportunity cost. I want you to think about every day you walk in the door to this company or turn on this Zoom as an opportunity cost. If it is not working, I want you to tell me, ‘It’s not working.’ And let’s have just a dispassionate conversation about what that means, so that we don’t waste any more time trying to make it work. And I promise you I will do the same.’

“And if you can set those guidelines from the beginning, you can move onto something that might have better timing. The founder can. And I can. Be aware of what failure looks like.” – Maha Ibrahim

Pitching to LPs

33/ Don’t promise your LPs guaranteed co-investing rights to go directly on the cap table of your portfolio companies. Let the founders decide who gets to invest on their cap tables. – Samir Kaji.

34/ A typical emerging fund takes 1-2 years to raise <$10M. Plan for that timeframe. A fast raise is 6 months. – Elizabeth Yin *timestamped April 2022

35/ To LPs there are 4 main metrics that are of note. Gross and net IRR to show how cash efficient you are, as well as how your portfolio is marked up. TVPI and DPI to show your paper returns and cash you’ve returned to your LPs, respectively. – Chamath Palihapitiya

36/ When you’re pitching institutional LPs (i.e. endowments, pension funds, university investment offices, etc.), you’re bet against 10-year life cycles and portfolio strategies. When benchmarking metrics (i.e. IRRs and TVPIs/DPIs), you have to show you can outperform other asset classes (i.e. real estate) and the public market equivalent (PME). Comparing and contrasting is often the most effective.

37/ When you’re pitching individual LPs (i.e. angels, or “belief capital), largely true for Fund I’s and II’s, it’s about personality and promise. Do people like you? Do you bring in great top of funnel deals? Are you different?

38/ “Don’t run out of leads.” You want to be constantly meeting new investors, ’cause you don’t want to be in a situation where you have to go back and convince people who are clearly not sold. – Elizabeth Yin

39/ If your Fund I consists of mostly individual LPs (i.e. accredited investors, but not qualified purchasers), you’re going to have to fundraise from scratch in Fund II and III. Since they have less of a net worth than institutional LPs, they most likely don’t have the capital to: (a) re-commit for a subsequent fund, (b) and even if they do, they won’t have enough to meet the minimum check size, assuming Fund II/III is bigger than Fund I. Inspired by Elizabeth Yin.

40/ Ask LPs what they like and what they don’t like about the pitch deck, and use each conversation as a learning and refining process.

41/ Figure out how much money you’re capable of raising in Fund I, and raise 25% less. It’s much better to be oversubscribed than suffer from lack of momentum. And leverage the “oversubscription” to help you raise Fund II, III, and so on. Told me to by someone who has sat on over 6 LPACs(LP advisory committees) in his career so far.

42/ The median family office check into first-time fund managers is $750K, with over 80% of family offices investing into first-time managers.

43/ “Does the world need another VC fund?” Most LPs don’t think so, so you need to convince them why you should exist.

44/ Before wasting your time pitching to some LPs, ask “Are you actively investing in venture funds at this time?” Many take meetings, but aren’t. Your time is precious.

45/ You’re going to raise from friends and family in the beginning. Your second cohort of LPs will be people you have a substantial network to. In other words, investors who you have many duplicate warm connections with, so that they can easily qualify your ability. – Dylan Weening

46/ In a recessionary market, LPs find themselves rebalancing their asset allocations. As their public market assets go down, they find themselves overallocated into venture. As such, they’re investing in less new managers. So in order to raise as an emerging GP from these LPs, you need to replace someone they’re currently investing into. That means you need to: (a) outperform them (4x TVPI is table stakes), and (b) have one compelling story on why you, backed by numbers.

47/ When doing diligence, sophisticated LPs evaluate you based on consistency. They will evaluate fund/portfolio performance with AND without your top investment. Hence, they expect a minimum number of investments in your portfolio – usually 20 to 30.

48/ Some LPs have been burned by staying invested in yesterday’s firms for too long. The top firms a decade ago are not the same top firms today. These firms often have an emerging GP thesis.

49/ “This is not a one-trick-pony relationship. You’re a capital allocator. The cost of finding new relationships to build is significant. You need to seek long-term capital allocation partners. Have a three to five fund view – multi-decade relationships. How repeatable is your success?” Shared by an LP in 30 funds.

50/ “The best filter for this is figuring out what [an LP’s] minimum check size is. And, is that greater than 20% of your fund size? If so, it won’t be a good fit.” – Sarah Smith

51/ “There’s a thing called ’round tripping.’ If a fund in India invests in a fund that’s built in the US, then invests back into Indian startups, that’s round tripping. And unfortunately, not allowed.” – Shiva Singh Sangwan

52/ “Before you say yes to LPs, check the CFIUS rules. Under those guidelines, you may not be able to take money from certain countries and parties.” – Arjun Dev Arora

53/ “Valuations are not the way you judge a venture capitalist, or multiples of their fund. […] The way that I judge a venture capitalist is by how many companies did they back that grew into $100M revenue businesses.” – Andy Rachleff

Fund strategy/portfolio construction

54/ It’s often good practice to not lead syndicates the same time as you’re raising for a fund (outside of SPVs to maintain pro rata). It gives too much optionality to LPs. For the most part, it’s easier sell a deal than it is to sell a fund.

55/ Typical GP commits are 1-2% of the fund. If you’re unable to do so (or even if you are), good practices include recycling fees and deal warehousing. The latter is where you keep a portfolio of personal investments in storage before launching the fund. Warehousing deals de-risk the deal by allowing LPs to participate in marked-up deals at more lucrative, aka lower valuations.

56/ In a downturn, investors are still funding startups but adding in more terms in the form of side letters. The riskier the bet, the greater the liquidation preferences, anti-dilution provisions, and minimum hurdle rate expectations.*timestamped in April 2022

57/ “Bank loans for VC funds have short paybacks (90-180 days). The 2+ year paybacks relate to large PE funds. IRR boost is minimal in VC.” – Samir Kaji

58/ Don’t be scared to recycle carry early. Most funds suffer from under-deployment, which usually leads VCs to deploy the last 25% of capital either towards deals with high valuations or in difficult situations (down rounds, pay to play rounds). – Villi Iltchev

59/ While pro rata rights are technically legally binding, earn the right to invest in subsequent rounds, rather than just expect it.

60/ Liquidation preferences have little impact on fund returns, which makes sense when you actually think about it, but many VCs add these provisions to protect their downside. Data shows that only the bottom quartile funds see IRR impacted greater than 1% due to liquidation preferences. Returns are driven by the winners in your portfolio where liquidation preferences don’t matter. There’s a big difference in a strategy to win versus a strategy not to lose.

61/ IRR is a vanity metric for funds early in their life cycle. While it can be a useful metric for LPs to compare across vintages and their portfolio, overoptimizing for it gives a false sense of hope. Why? IRR values quick capital deployment. Recycling hurts IRR. Many things change over the span of a 10-15 year fund. – Seth Levine.

62/ Ownership and pro rata allocations are inversely proportional to the number of portfolio companies in a fund. Many managers can’t get 100% of their pro rata allocations, but rather only 50-75% of their allocations. Inspired by Henri Pierre-Jacques.

63/ Venture reserves make less sense in a bull market. Reserves are usually put into a fund’s winners. But in a hot market, a larger percentage of your portfolio companies get mark ups – making it harder to differentiate signal from noise. Reserves make sense in a bear market when it’s easier to differentiate signal from noise. In a bull market, it might be better to have no reserves, and spin up SPVs for a follow-on strategy.

64/ Your ability to get into later rounds, not just ’cause of pro-rata rights, should be a big determinant if you have a reserve strategy. Can you earn your allocation in later rounds? Will founders fight for you even when downstream investors want more equity? The best companies are hot commodities. Even if you have a follow-on strategy, you might not be able to get in those subsequent rounds.

65/ If you want to include more than 99 accredited investors in your fund, set up a parallel structure where you have one fund for accredited investors (<$10M) to include 249 accredited investors, and another fund for qualified purchasers (QPs).

66/ “The best way to protect yourself against the downside is to enjoy every bit of the upside.” – Bill Gurley

67/ If you have a parallel fund structure (i.e. one for accredited investors, one for qualified purchasers (QPs)) and you’re going through rolling closes, understand that your initial allocation in each deal will change as a function of each fund’s committed capital from LPs.

For example, let’s say you’re raising a hypothetical $100M fund – a $10M fund for accredited investors, and $90M for QPs. Let’s call the $10M fund Fund IA, and the $90M fund Fund I. On average, QPs take much longer to make a decision, so you’re likely to close your Fund IA before you close Fund I. As such, your first investments out of the fund might be 50-50 from each fund. But as you finish closing your Fund I, you will need to rebalance your allocation into earlier deals, like changing it from a 50-50 allocation between the two funds to 90-10. As such, in your term sheets, make sure you include the “right to transfer securities to affiliates.” And make it clear to your founders why that’s in there before everyone signs.

68/ If you’re building a concentrated portfolio, think about portfolio construction from a bottom-up perspective, rather than top-down. How many unicorns/decacorns do you need to return the fund? How often have you historically seen them in your inbox? That’ll be your deployment schedule. And subsequently, your capital call schedule.

69/ “Fund management is irrelevant unless there are winners in the portfolio.” – Laura Thompson

70/ Calculate your mark ups on priced rounds rather than valuation caps on SAFEs. Your TVPI and IRR may look nice in the short-term, and may help you raise from individual LPs. But once you start talking to institutions, you look deceitful or have no idea what you’re doing.

71/ Avoid overly large GP commits. If you invest too much of your own net worth into a fund, you’re going to make decisions that sacrifice the long game of the fund for short term personal liquidity, like selling secondaries to buy a house. Don’t go higher than 10% of your net worth. – Sheel Mohnot

72/ “For funds that are <$20MM, the GP commitment is fairly meaningless in the evaluation of a fund. Either the person is already taking a great opportunity cost by running such a small fund or has independent personal wealth where a small GP commitment is irrelevant to them.” – Samir Kaji

73/ “Most LPs allow you to reinvest returns 18-36 months after the investment period. The early wins are often small and don’t impact the returns so you are better off reinvesting to go for another unicorn. This is a game of outliers.” – Henri Pierre-Jacques

74/ “Management fee schedule adjustments: Pause or slow down fees in ’23 (with authority delegated to LPAC to avoid conflicts of interest)” – Chris Harvey (timestamped Feb 13, 2023). A way to leverage your LPAC to communicate fund decisions to the rest of your LPs

75/ “What % of companies successfully got funded from investment to the next round?

  • Seed —> Series A should be >35%.
  • Series A —> Series B should be >50%.
  • Series B —> Series C should be >50%.
  • And, Series C —> Series D+ should be >60%.” – Aman Verjee

76/ As a long-term investor, you have to generate at least three times the risk-free rate (3-month T-bonds, bank interest rates, etc.) to have an investment make sense in the long-term. – Chamath Palihapitiya, speaking when T-bonds’ rate is 6.5%, meaning a private investment must generate at least 20-25% for it to make sense

Selling positions

77/ “In consumer and consumer social, advocate more aggressively for selling along the way. The hype cycle of consumer means heat and traction do not have the sustainability of enterprise ARR and so more weight placed on selling some portion earlier there.” – Harry Stebbings

78/ “Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered. Even if we believe a company has tremendous longterm upside, it’s not inappropriate to take some money off the table in order to manage that risk. As we’re recently reminded, markets go down, not just up. Just be aware of the incentives, emotions, and other factors at play. It’s ok to behave one way before you hit your DPI target and another way after, but understand how those factors produce better or worse possible outcomes. This is also true with regards to recycling. If we can sell partially out of a position and put those proceeds into one that we believe has more incremental upside, that’s accretive to our results.” – Hunter Walk

79/ “Generally once a position is worth 3x the fund sell 1/3rd to return 1x the fund (if there is liquidity). […] For the hot names you will get a bunch of inbound. Negotiate to get a price you like. For less hot names, just talk to the investors leading the next round and see if they want to add to their position. A lot of times they do and don’t mind buying out earlier investors.” – Sheel Mohnot

80/ “For public shares, we’ve landed on the following model:

  • 1/3rd immediately (either first-day lockup expires or immediate on direct listing)
  • 1/3rd 6 months after 
  • 1/3rd up to our discretion 

Here’s why — The first third books your win. If you do seed, you likely have a huge position by the time you hold public shares. The second third allows the stock price to stabilize after the market has been hit with lots of supply from VCs doing distributions. The last third allows you to have an opinion on the stock/market — however, you can choose to distribute this third anytime, including alongside or after the previous thirds.” – Chad Byers

81/ If you’re a reasonably good fund, you should return at least 1x your fund (1x DPI) within 5-7 years. – Chamath Palihapitiya and Jason Rowley

LP management

82/ Early funds generally have 30 LPs in the fund. Fund I is often an exception.

83/ A general rule of thumb is to not have any one LP contribute more than 25% of the fund, or else you might lose control when you have such a large “shareholder”.

84/ “After my LPs wire their money, I send them an intake form where I ask the question: How would you describe yourself as an LP? I have a number of statements they can select to indicate whether they are a newer or more experienced LP, if they’d like to be more active with founders, how often they’d like to communicate with me, and if they are interested in co-investment opportunities and events. I have another question following that: If you want to be more active, what are ways you enjoy helping?” – Sarah Smith

85/ “Be thoughtful about how you’re managing your time, so that you don’t turn into a full-time venture professor. You’re an investor, a GP. That’s what you’re getting paid to do.” – Arjun Dev Arora

86/ “Avoid LPs who ask you to give up economics as a GP or change your terms. LPs who want to negotiate lower management fees, a different carry structure, or they want to own 20% of the general partnership for the next three funds are best avoided if possible. They want to change the terms that everyone else has. I wouldn’t allow that. If other LPs find out (and they eventually do), it would cause my LPs to lose trust in me and rightfully be frustrated that they got worse terms.” – Sarah Smith

87/ “If someone does ask for it, and if they aren’t a large enough check, we tell them, ‘We like to reserve this spot for our largest LPs because they have the largest exposure in our fund. We’re open to you being a member in our LPAC, if you increase your check size.” That way, you can leave the ball in their court. Either, they won’t push further or they’ll commit more capital to the fund.” – Eric Bahn

88/ “If you’re in your Fund I or II, like I am, you’re still figuring shit out. You’re still testing what works and resonates and what doesn’t. I ask them, ‘what have you seen other managers do in this situation?’” – Paige Finn Doherty

89/ “The average, for a normal venture fund, is around 5-7 years to call 90% of the capital.” – Chamath Palihapitiya

SPVs/Syndicates

90/ There are two types of syndicate leads: “marketers” and “connoisseurs.” The former focuses on volume, which lead to more noise than signal. The latter focuses on quality, and as “tastemakers” lead to higher signal over noise. As LPs, quality may matter more than quantity, especially when you’re most likely diversified by being in several other syndicates already. Inspired by Julian Weisser.

91/ If you’re warehousing SPVs for your fund, do note that the number of unique LPs in your SPV(s) count towards your accredited investor limit.

92/ If you’re an LP in an SPV and agree for it to be warehoused into a fund, you are forgoing your right to the individual deal for access to the fund’s portfolio of deals.

93/ As the syndicate lead, set the minimum check size at or less than your own check size.

94/ Your GP commit into your SPV is directly proportional to your net worth. The greater your net worth, the more you’re expected to contribute. Any less, would be a negative signal. That said, the less of a net worth you have, the more you’re expected to be a great curator of deals.

Succession planning

95/ “The best way to think about succession planning is that you have to have team members at different parts of their life. Different generations. Even if they’re non-founding partners, if they all retire at the same time, you can’t build a legacy.” – An investor with 9-figure AUM

96/ Structure your fund to have a generational off-ramp for compensation. A lot of funds are structured so that payout is done through the management company, and so owning equity in the management company becomes increasingly more expensive as the firm matures and has greater AUM, etc. So the next generation, in order to succeed the firm, must buy out the previous generation’s equity. So, leadership transitions are not easy. Instead, structure your firm so that the management company doesn’t have value, where the value is at the GP. So transitions are a lot easier. – Maha Ibrahim

Tax planning

97/ When invest in a startup via SAFEs or convertible notes, your QSBS timer counts when the SAFE converts on equity round, not during the convertible round.

98/ As a GP who takes management fees through a management company, often LLC, you don’t receive W-2’s. As such, you can’t withhold taxes, so you have to be disciplined on cash management. “Outside of federal and state tax, there is a massive self-employment tax of 12.4% on up to $147,000 of earnings. And an additional 2.9% on any earnings.” – Jarrid Tingle

99/ The origin of the 1% GP commit comes from taxation laws prior to 1996. But even now, “in order for GPs to avoid their carried interest being taxed as ordinary income vs. long-term capital gains, many GPs still follow safe harbor.” – Courtney McCrea and Sara Zulkosky. While this isolates GPs who aren’t independently wealthy or are well-capitalized, in lieu of the typical cash contribution, I see a lot more emerging GPs warehouse deals and recycle carry.

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How to Think about LP Construction

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Before we dive into this blogpost, I’ve been asked by my legal friends to include the below disclaimer. I have a version of this at the bottom of every blogpost, but nevertheless, it doesn’t hurt to reiterate it again.

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One of my favorite scenes as a kid was in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone when Harry visits Diagon Alley for the first time. As the stone wall parted like the Red Sea, we saw a world unlike any we’ve seen before. With that, the audience along with Harry (Kudos for Director Chris Columbus‘ artistic direction) watched in wonder, excitement, and mystery. And Harry and I alike (Admittedly, I didn’t start reading the books till after the first movie) was hit with an overwhelming load of new information to absorb.

Raising your first fund is very much like that. While there are still some elements of familiarity, like investing in great people and winning great deals, you are taking other people’s money (OPM) for the first time. As such, it begs the questions: Who do you take money from? And how do you manage those relationships?

And like the stone wall in Diagon Alley, there’s more than meets the eye.

I have to thank Shiva for first bringing this topic to my attention, one that deserves a more nuanced breakdown than what is currently out there. And when Rebekah brought the below notion up for the Emerging LP Playbook, I knew I had to dedicate a blogpost to just this topic.

“GPs often have some flexibility on their minimum check size. I’m a pretty small check (particularly since I’ve been living on a founder salary!), but I can bring other things to the table to help the GPs I invest in (e.g. I highlighted Janine Sickmeyer from Overlooked Ventures in my Forbes column, I’m an advisor to Zecca Lehn from Responsibly Ventures, I send them deal flow from my AuthenTech community of founders). I’ve had luck with reaching out and saying ‘I really believe in what you’re doing. Please let me know if you get enough large checks and have room for some smaller LP investments.’ They’ll usually need to get enough big investments first since there are SEC limits on how many LPs they can have, and then they can let in some smaller, value-add LPs.”

The LP landscape is rapidly changing. What we knew in the last decade won’t get us to the next. The opacity in the LP world is getting undone by new, emerging LPs hungry to get involved and to learn. Folks, like Nichole at Wischoff Ventures have also shared publicly what her LP base looks like, with a level of transparency that’s foreign, yet refreshing for this industry.

Regulation has moved the needle, allowing for greater allocations to equity crowdfunding, as well as introducing more retail and high net-worth individual investors, to join the foray. Platforms, like AngelList, Republic, Twitter, Allocate, and Revere, just to name a few, are creating engines for better GP discoverability. There have been conversations on raising the ceiling on the number of accredited investors in a fund to 600. Which, if passed, will allow for smaller checks into funds, whereas the previous decades only allowed for family offices and institutions, as well as close friends. Anecdotally, I’ve also seen a lot of angel investors starting to allocate to funds rather than just purely startups.

And at this inflection point, as a GP, you need to be ready for this market shift that’s still early now, but starting to move. And hopefully, the below insights from 11 amazing GPs will serve as your wand, potions, owl and broom as you embark into the magical world of being a fund manager.

My methodology

To be fair, LP construction is more of an art than a science. So, I asked GPs who were on Funds I, II, or III. Why? Emerging GPs would best be able to relate a lot more to the hustle of finding and persuading different kinds of LP personas than someone who was on a Fund X or XV, who already have a long track record that speaks for itself.

I’m also a firm believer in tactical mentorship — mentors who are just 2-3 years ahead of you. People who have just been through the trenches you’re in and can share the lessons they learned. At the same time, not too far ahead where they are no longer the best people to check your blind side. After all, the lessons they picked up are still fresh in their mind. As a function, every one of these amazing GPs started their current fund in the past decade. The only caveat is that this may be the first recession they’re investing other people’s money (OPM) into, although they may have invested their own in the previous decade. And while that may be true, their lessons are timeless.

In the world of baseball, there’s the idea of breaking the catcher’s mitt. In other words, a new glove must be worn and used several times before it can achieve its full potential. Pitching to LPs and LP construction as a whole is no different. Just like a founder needs to pitch to several friends, colleagues, and investors, before they can hit their full stride during fundraising, raising from LPs requires many conversations and many iterations. Even Felicis’ brilliant Aydin Senkut got his first yes from an LP in Felicis after 107 iterations of his pitch.

So, in embarking on this topic and to get the best insight I could, it came down to two core pillars: the people I asked and the questions. I’ll start with the people.

The experts

If there were a periodic table of elements for GPs, who would be the canonical faces who would be on there? That’s who I needed for this blogpost. Not me, but them. So I did just that. I couldn’t be more grateful. A big thank you to Sarah Smith, Nichole Wischoff, Shiva Singh Sangwan, Vijen Patel, Eric Bahn, Paige Finn Doherty, Sheel Mohnot, Hunter Walk, Arjun Dev Arora, Steven Rosenblatt, and “Mr. Huxley” for your insights and edits. I know the below will go a long way.

Don’t get me wrong, there are a lot. And the folks included here are by no means all-inclusive. Many who had gone on to raise a Fund IV or higher. In effect, a few years or more out of the emerging manager game. Quite a few I didn’t know well enough. That’s on me. And some who, for all their goodwill and insight, unfortunately, were busy in the weeks prior to this blogpost coming out.

The questions

Building a firm with multiple funds is, in many ways, like driving a car through fog. Not my best analogy, but gets the point across. You see the rough outlines of the road just a few meters ahead, but you won’t see the sinkholes and the cracked concrete until you’re right in front of it, nor do you see any part of the road further than a few meters away. Or as Warren Buffett says, “The rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield.”

Things are often painfully obvious in hindsight, but are scary, mysterious and unknown in foresight. Sometimes, you just don’t know what you don’t know. And as such, I write and I ask, in hopes to help the ones starting off, to develop foresight from the below cast’s hindsight. And to each, I had five overarching questions, coupled with follow-ups for more depth:

  1. What kinds of LP personas should a GP target at the beginning of their fundraise versus at the end?
    • In your experience, what do institutions look for before writing you checks?
  2. How active of a role do you ask your LPs to play?
  3. Are there any LPs you say no to? What is your framework for saying no?
  4. If you have one, how do you think about structuring your LPAC?
  5. What tools do you use to help manage your engagement with LPs?

LP Personas

As you embark on your fundraise, note that different LPs resonate with different pitches. Additionally, when you choose out to reach out to each persona, be aware of what each of these LP personas’ incentives are. As a seasoned LP once told me:

  • High net-worth individuals seek to learn and rarely have a financial incentive.
  • Small and medium-sized family offices seek to learn and access top decile deal flow.
  • Larger LPs, like institutions and fund-of-funds, seek financial return.

From my conversations, it seems most GPs raising a Fund I start with individuals, then target larger check sizes as their fundraise matures. For Fund IIs, many seem to start with finding an anchor LP first, before reaching out to individuals and family offices.

The truth is there’s no silver bullet. And you’ll see exactly why below. So what might be more useful to you, an emerging GP, are anecdotes of what worked for different funds. As I call it, tools for your toolkit.

I will note that the one LP persona I won’t touch on as much since I have a lack of data here are corporates who usually seek technology, as well as information access, largely for acquisition opportunities.

Individuals

Start with people close to you.

“You should always target friendlies first. Welcome your references and first believers who might be founders, individuals, former coworkers, classmates.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“It all depends on which Fund you are raising, how much you are raising, track record, team, and many more variables.  If you are an emerging manager that is not spinning out of a brand named fund with a significant track record, you are going to have to be scrappy and start with people who know and trust you. “

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

“You should always start off with your network – from the closest circle and outwards through the various concentric circles. At the beginning, you want to focus on finding your first believers. Those are your first-degree and maybe second-degree connections. So it’s less of the archetype of LP, but more so the depth of relevant relationship that matters. After the first close, that’s when you explore emerging manager programs or talk to more traditional asset managers — still largely within your first- and second-degree networks and/or those of your close early LPs and advisors.”

— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

“The first $5 million is the hardest. Go to your friends and family. Build some momentum. After you get the initial momentum, it builds off of that. Everyone back channels everyone.”

— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

“For the beginning of a fundraise, I’d recommend asking for advice (before money) from people you’ve worked with for an extended amount of time. Your earliest checks may often be smaller but meaningful amounts from colleagues, co-investors, and GPs at other firms.”

— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

“The thing is my fund wasn’t oversubscribed from the beginning since I found it hard to raise. It’s a game of momentum, and in the beginning, I didn’t have any. In the beginning, it was about reaching out to the folks that you know. So, I mostly reached out to GPs and fund managers I knew and getting them through.”

— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

“At the beginning, always start with people you have relationships with — people who’ve known you for a very long time. They not only want to invest in the fund, but invest in you. My first LPs would have likely invested in anything I created, but they knew I wanted to build a track record in venture. I’ve known one of my LPs since we were kids. Another was one of my best friends in university. Another was a friend of his.”

— “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds

Beware of relying too much on publicly available data to find LPs.

“The challenge with a purely data-driven approach (i.e. on LinkedIn or Pitchbook) is that you don’t understand the full rationale for why certain LPs invested in a fund. On paper, it may look like a family office is an LP in venture funds, but the principal at that family office could just be the brother- or sister-in-law of the GP. Most LPs also don’t explicitly say they’re LPs on LinkedIn. They could be an asset manager or a CEO of a Fortune 500 company. They almost always don’t want to be inundated with asks. Only after understanding why the industry is opaque, can you then understand LPs and find them.”

— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

For potential MVP LPs, check size doesn’t matter.

“At the beginning of the fundraise, anyone that knows you and trusts you already AND can easily part with some money. Our first close was $20 million, and it was almost all people who knew us already – either directly or through our brand. We only had one new investor. In that group, we were lucky to have some fairly common names, which helped build the momentum for the rest of the fundraise.

“We did think about check sizes a little bit. There were some people we wanted to have involved for sure, and for them, the check size didn’t really matter. In our first close, we thought of people who could write a $250K check. And if there was someone we really wanted, we’d reduce it to $100K. I’m also an LP, and I do the same. If I plan to invest, I always negotiate down as well. The GP tells me X and I say I’ll invest X, divided by three.”

— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

Persistence also speaks for itself.

“There are two types of investors: those who will commit to your fund now, and those who will invest after building trust. A lot of investors don’t like to invest in a Fund I. To keep them engaged, you either take a tiny check they’re comfortable with or you share regular LP updates that showcase your proof of work.

“In addition, you have to be clear with expectations. I bucketed potential LPs into four buckets:

  1. High net-worth individuals
  2. Founders and operators
  3. Family offices
  4. And GPs

“With each meeting, my pitch evolved and did a lot of follow ups. I had to show I was getting access to good deals and how I was getting access to those deals. You have to share the story behind that. That’s how you attract other investors. For instance, I remember sending my proof of work and an additional ten follow-ups to an LP. And each time I followed up, there has to be some new substance, value, and proof of work. It was a long process, but he ended up becoming one of my largest checks.

“Investors who were or are hustlers tended to gravitate towards my pitch. They became high-functioning people because of their hustle and respect me for my follow-ups and my persistence. They saw themselves in me. Similarly, founders are most likely going to get a reply from me who follow-up at least 2-3 times.

“The lesson here is that being persistent shows that you care. 99.9% of people won’t follow up, and by doing so, you’re already standing out.”

— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

There are different ways to get in front of LPs: events, Twitter, deal flow, etc.

“Throw events for your LPs — a nice dinner or a cool experience — and ask them to invite their friends. Host events in a thoughtful way.

“Share relevant SPVs. Even broader, it’s content. Having founders be big fans of yours is also helpful. It’s a positive signal and creates buzz.

“That said, having co-investors who like you is a more direct path. LPs often ask VCs: Who are you co-investing with? Which emerging managers are you excited about? These LPs are looking for names. Some GPs are more generous with intros; while others prefer not to share but that’s OK as long as some do.”

— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

“Looking back at my experience, a majority of our LPs from both Fund I and II actually came from Twitter and warm intros. I’m on Twitter a lot, mostly because I raised Fund I during the pandemic, so Twitter was where I hung out with many of my friends. I love to tell stories and as an extension I help founders tell their stories. And I host events and have done so since elementary school when I was on the student government event planning board. People are interested in my story because I don’t come from a traditional background. They invested mainly because they realize ‘she’s putting so much into the ecosystem, so it’ll eventually come back to pay dividends.'”

— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Some individual LPs are not financially motivated.

“I want to preface that we only have foreign LPs, not US LPs. So, sophistication is very different. With European investors, while running a fund investing in the US, you can play the access game. In other words, you can sell access to great US companies. It’s something I lean on quite a bit.

“My LPs are quite sophisticated outside of the world of tech. They’re finance-savvy wealth managers, founders, high net worth individuals with net worths greater than $50 million, where they invest out of leisure and pursuing a mission, rather than for financial returns. They don’t understand venture, but want exposure to venture.”

— “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds

Start with HNW individuals, and end on family offices.

“Let’s make a few assumptions here. Let’s assume this is a Fund I and an emerging manager who doesn’t come from an extreme pedigree. Not from Sequoia or the like. This person is a decent operator-turned-VC, investing with a cool thesis. I’m going to also assume they’re not going to raise a $50 million Fund I or greater. They’re staying small and only raising $10-20 million.

“So I break down LPs into four categories.

  1. High net-worth individuals – These are your angels.
  2. Family offices – They have a lot more assets, usually $100 million or greater.
  3. Fund of funds – They have a mandate to invest in other funds.
  4. Endowments – These are very large institutions, maybe even sovereign wealth. They tend to write big checks into big funds.

“The big mistake I see many GPs make is that most GPs try to target the big ones out of the gate. Rather, in the beginning, focus on the high net-worth individuals. This is similar to asking angels. Their conviction and speed is quick. Their typical check size is no greater than $100K.

“Once you get a few million in the bank, then focus on the family offices — the $1-5 million checks. They tend to operate a lot like angels, but have just accumulated a lot more wealth. Around Fund II or III, then you target larger institutions.

“So, my recommendation is that as an emerging manager, start with angels, end with family offices.”

— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“When you get closer to a final close, and you have a small fund, you can always welcome 1-2 family offices who can write small checks as well as individual investors who can be really helpful.”

— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

Family offices

Find LPs by optimizing your search with certain keywords.

“Ask your existing LPs if they know anyone. Search LinkedIn to make their life easier. To find LPs, I would recommend looking up the keywords: Venture capital, asset manager, family office, emerging manager, startup (or venture) ecosystem, allocation, active allocator. All the above implies someone is putting money to work.”

— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

Ask each person for just one intro, nothing more.

“Hustle Fund today has hundreds of LPs in our pipeline. But when we started off, we didn’t know a single family office. So, at the risk of sounding unintentionally mean, here’s how I think about it. Finding a family office is kind of like finding a cockroach. It’s always hard to find the first one. But once you find one, you’ll find a whole nest.

“I’ll share a tactical networking tip of how we found family offices over time. So, let’s say we chat with David. He likes us and decides to invest in the fund. We then share our fundraising blurb and deck and ask, ‘Do you mind sending this to one person you think would be a good fit for our fund?’

“The mistake I see a lot of other fund managers make is they ask, ‘Do you mind sharing this to anyone you think would be a good fit?’ Don’t ask for too much. There’s just too much paradoxical choice. There’s too many in their network to choose from and that overwhelms them.

“So, we change the question to just ask for one. That’s it. Generally, they think of the richest person they know. With just one intro, you’re magically in the family office world. A rich person tends to be friends with a lot of other rich people. It is secretive, but they also talk amongst each other a lot. When they invest, they like to bring their own friends in too.”

— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Ask for intros to LPs who backed GPs who look like you.

“Another big filter is to find LPs who have backed GPs that look like you or have a similar investment strategy. For me, it was finding LPs who have backed solo GPs. To be fair, it’s not easy to figure out, since it is a rather opaque industry. So, I had other solo GPs I knew well and have co-invested with help make intros to their LPs.

“For LPs that I’ve never talked to before, a question I always ask LPs is: ‘Have you ever backed a solo GP?’ If not, don’t waste your time as you’re extremely unlikely to be their first. They likely have strong philosophical reasons to not back solo GPs so your meeting time is better spent elsewhere.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

Institutional LPs

Don’t underestimate the power of an anchor LP.

“If possible, having a respected entity who could anchor 5-10% of the fund would be ideal. In my case, my former partnership Bain Capital Ventures anchored my fund which was ideal because it keeps us connected and they are well known in the industry. Just like for a founder, having a lead is important. Having an anchor early helps you build momentum to close the rest of the fund.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“For Fund II, I wanted an anchor LP to provide stability and credibility in the fundraise. Cendana was my number one pick. As a function of fund size at the seed stage, they’re definitely the best. The Harvard of LPs. To become part of their community, for me, was really important.

“It was a hard process, but was doubly as difficult, since Josh and I went our separate ways for Fund II. We had to communicate that decision to our 120 LPs in Fund I before starting the fundraise.

“In Fund I, some LPs believed in me. Some believed in Josh separately. I remember fondly of our first $10K check of belief capital. BGV’s most expensive decisions were our investment decisions. We made all our decisions together in Fund I. We also tried doing a few SPVs via Assure. While it was a great start to our career in VC, it required more work than we thought made sense. But for Fund II, it was going to be different. It was just me. No more SPVs, just checks out of the fund. The story itself wasn’t hard to communicate, but when we got to our 70th call, it was hard to sell the same emotional story.

“So, once we did, I put in the work. I flew to Australia to get introductions and to meet his teammate. Whenever I chatted with other GPs that were backed by Michael [Kim], I’d ask them to say hi to him.

“Pitching to Cendana, and most importantly, Michael, was the longest sales process I’ve ever gone through. He passed on Fund I, but he finally said yes to BGV’s Fund II. Along with Michael, GREE also doubled down on Fund II, along with operator checks from folks at Dropbox and other companies.”

— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Bigger LPs have the ability to write smaller get-to-know-you checks.

“At the end of Fund I, we ended up with Cendana, Greenspring, Industry, Vintage, and Invesco. All fund-of-funds, but they all wrote relatively smaller checks than they typically do. For all the afore-mentioned funds, they wrote $1-3 million checks. It was a get-to-know-you check. They would talk to other companies in our portfolio and other managers we co-invested with. And so the best way to get in front of them was to get intros from other managers these fund-of-funds invested in.”

— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

Talk to LPs whose minimum check size is 20% or less of your fund.

“Some CIOs like being in Fund I’s; others don’t. There’s a lot of alpha in Fund I. At the same time, there are others that won’t consider you seriously until Fund III. The challenge is figuring that out as quickly as possible.

“The best filter for this is figuring out what their minimum check size is. And, is that greater than 20% of your fund size? If so, it won’t be a good fit.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“Biggest thing is their own AUM and the amount they need to deploy. First barrier to entry is the size of the fund you are raising as the GP. If you are raising sub-$75M (give or take) it wouldn’t be big enough for their minimum check size. LPs don’t want to be even close to a majority of your fund, or likely more than 20%.”

— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

“Some institutional LPs also cannot write small checks since they are dealing with other variables around their asset allocation models.”

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

Start conversations early with LPs who can invest in the ideal fund size you want to raise.

“It’s not just about what your fund size is today, but where you aspire to be. Say you have a $25 million fund today, but aspire to have a $150 million fund where you lead Series As by Fund III or IV, then you should still talk to LPs who are able to write checks that are 20% or less of that future fund. It’s important to know there may be incredible university endowments or foundations who really like you as a GP but in order to run their business efficiently, they have to be able to write minimum checks of $25M or even $50M+ which means they only seriously consider funds of $150M+.

“The question for you, the fund manager, is: Are you going to grow your fund size over time? Or are you going to stay consistent with your current fund size? If the former, then you need to spend a fair bit of time in your deck about how your strategy will shift over time and some views into those larger future funds.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“I started having conversations with institutions while I was raising Fund II knowing they wouldn’t come in until Fund III at the earliest. You need a lot of touchpoints and time with these types of LPs before they invest. I am very focused on LPs that want to underwrite me/the fund for years. I want long lasting relationships and partners that can come in fund over fund.”

— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

“So, when I speak to institutions that are more data-driven — they think about the scalability of AUM — I knew many of those folks were not going to be the best fit. That’s why raising Fund I was so hard.”

— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

“We have been cultivating relationships with a large amount of institutional LP’s over the last few years.  Investors invest based on trust and relationship and in our mind that doesn’t happen overnight.”

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

LPs hate surprises.

“There are some institutional LPs who will give you transparent feedback and transparency about their process but most do not.  The #1 thing that rules them all is track record and performance. Institutional LPs don’t want surprises; they want to see a multi-year established track record in what you are investing in.”

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

And even if they disagree with you, LPs like consistent LP updates, even prior to their investment.

“We have a couple institutions that have invested in Hustle Fund. What I didn’t appreciate out of the gate is how long it took to build those relationships. They want to see at least one fund cycle, ideally two. That’s usually anywhere between two and four years. But we’ve nailed how we do it passively.

“We have a newsletter that goes out on the first day of each month at midnight — every month for the past 5.5 years. Each issue has two things: a state of the market and a deal memo on each deal we’ve invested in.

“Today we have 150 investors across three funds and an additional 450 investors who have not invested yet. Think of it like a monthly drip campaign for these prospective investors. Investors get to see what we execute against what we say we’re going to do.

“In some cases, these investors like what they see and choose to eventually invest. In other cases, they find themselves totally disagreeing with how we run our process so they don’t invest, and that’s okay, too. Drip campaigns are always a great marketing tool to close customers. That’s no less true for Hustle Fund. So, at some point, when we mention we’re going to raise a Fund IV, all the meetings will just line up.

“I’ll share a story. Our biggest LP, Foundry Group — Jaclyn and Lindel run their LP initiatives — initially didn’t like our thesis and approach. To them, our investment model was a little too spray and pray. But at the end of our Fund II, they told me, ‘Even if we’re a little uncomfortable with your thesis, you’ve been so consistent with sharing how you’re learning and developing, and we love it. So, we want to invest now.’ They invested because of our newsletter, and witnessing our exact fund thesis. You gotta put in the work. And if you do, the money will follow.”

— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Give LPs a compelling reason not to back an established fund. Otherwise, they will.

“Every institution is different, but it’s also really important to realize that with most institutions, the decision maker is not making the decision based on their own capital. So, risk is a huge point. No one is going to get fired for backing Sequoia. They could potentially get fired for putting a huge check into a new emerging manager that isn’t proving anything and going backwards. It’s important to understand the incentives of who you’ll be working with. So institutions are a completely different beast than individuals. Anything they do there’s usually 5 to 10 back references. It’s a small world. For pushback, they want to see a track record, which is really hard for emerging managers. And they want to see some sort of pedigree.”

— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

“I’m the horrible anomaly of being able to raise from institutional LPs in my first fund. I’ll chalk up timing, privilege, and reputation as being the reason we were successful in doing so. While not all of this is relevant to emerging managers today, 100 Days of Fundraising was a blog post which detailed how Homebrew ran its process.”

— Hunter Walk, Homebrew

Author’s Note: Of particular note, in Hunter’s alluded blogpost, is when he writes:

“What we also had was a point of view as to where we’d be investing: the Bottom Up Economy. This set us apart from other funds with broader or non-descriptive investment principles. We also had given extensive thought to our portfolio construction strategy around playing lead roles in rounds, the number of deals we would do each year, how much capital we’d hold back for follow-on, etc. The combination of these two meant that a fund could see how we’d be differentiated in the marketplace and where we’d fit against their current exposure.”

Should your LPs be active?

The truth is, and you’ll read this below, most LPs are passive. But in a world where you take so many different types of risk as an emerging GP, it helps to have people you can lean on. So, it really comes down to two questions:

  1. What can you ask of your LPs?
  2. What is the upside and downside to having active LPs?

The bull case for active LPs

HNW individuals are just waiting for the ask.

“The LPs I love working with are the ones who are going to be actively involved. They share their expertise with the portfolio, answer our questions, and are willing to jump on random calls with me. A lot of our LPs are high net-worth individuals, and they’re just waiting for the ask. They’re waiting for the GPs who they invested in, to engage with them. Sometimes, all it takes is a 20-minute call to share deals or thoughts or questions.”

— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Your LPs will make LP intros if you have a good story.

“I think you can do a good job of getting LPs to send intros. If you can build trust and tell a good story, your LPs will naturally tell others because it comes up at a cocktail party organically. A VC fund is more interesting than ‘Hey I invested in a new ETF.'”

— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

Incentivize your LPs with additional carry.

“With Fund II, my Fund I LPs opened the door to other LPs in their network. Additionally, I am quite generous with my 20% carry for running the fund. I share 5% of the carry pool with other founders and LPs who send me deals, help with diligence and introduce me to other LPs.”

— “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds

Leverage your LPs’ brand to win deals.

“In my case, I had smart and well-connected LPs, and I was able to win deals because of them by inviting them into deals I wanted to get into. Some of my LPs happened to be fund managers as well, and I have been able to learn a lot from them.”

— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

Build communities alongside LPs.

“I do believe there is room for LPs to provide value on top of what we expect today – better ways to tap their networks on behalf of our portfolio companies for example. At Screendoor for example, a fund of funds that backs underrepresented emerging managers, we strive to create a community among these VCs to support each other, and also pair them with VCs (like me) who can be coaches along the way when they have questions about firm building.”

— Hunter Walk, Homebrew

If you’re doing something for the first time, ask institutional LPs how other managers they’ve backed have done so.

“Since their investment offices have decades of experience in the venture sector and exposure to top managers across all stages, we often turn to them to gut check our reality against their perspective of the market. And when we encounter a type of situation for the first time, understand how other managers have approached the solution.”

— Hunter Walk, Homebrew

Author’s Note: Paige’s anecdote on how she engages her LPAC below is a great +1 to this point.

Let your LPs choose the kind of LP they want to be.

“I have no preference here. Rather, I’m open to what my LPs want their experience to be like. I have LPs that want to be more passive, as well as operator LPs who want to learn more about investing, lend expertise during diligence, facilitate customer intros, and even help out portfolio companies with hiring.

“After my LPs wire their money, I send them an intake form where I ask the question: How would you describe yourself as an LP? I have a number of statements they can select to indicate whether they are a newer or more experienced LP, if they’d like to be more active with founders, how often they’d like to communicate with me, and if they are interested in co-investment opportunities and events. I have another question following that: If you want to be more active, what are ways you enjoy helping?”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“I leave it completely up to them, but they typically opt to be more active. I host monthly one-hour office hours, share quarterly updates and deal reviews. For office hours, while we mostly chat about interesting deals I’ve been seeing in the last 30 days, my LPs can ask me anything. I try to be as communicative as possible – valuations, deal memos, and diligence. Sometimes they ask me to set up an additional SPV if they’re interested in putting additional capital in. I have a separate Airtable for deals we’re diligencing at the moment which LPs have access to. If they’re interested in a deal, they can reach out and ask. If not, they don’t have to.”

— “Mr. Huxley”, GP with two funds

The bear case for active LPs

Having engaged LPs is a lot of work.

“Candidly, I don’t want LPs that want to be super engaged outside of maybe one or two. It’s enough work as it is with quarterly reporting, etc. I want LPs focused on returns. Cendana is the most active with me and in great ways because they have so many emerging managers. I can strategize on fund size, raise timing, first hires, etc.”

— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

Emerging LPs want to learn from you, but remember you’re an investor, not a professor.

“Emerging LPs want that education. For emerging LPs who write a $5 million check or greater, they might like for you to jump on a call every quarter to educate them and share your current portfolio and what else you are seeing out in the field.

“Also, be thoughtful about how you’re managing your time, so that you don’t turn into a full-time venture professor. You’re an investor, a GP. That’s what you’re getting paid to do.”

— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

Then again, most LPs are just passive.

“Most LPs are pretty passive. Sometimes they are helpful by making intros to our portfolio companies. We also like getting a pulse on the market from them.”

— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

“Mostly passive. Most of the time, when the deals are good, they require little involvement.”

— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

GP-LP fit: Red flags and things to watch out for

Avoid LPs who ask for special terms.

“These are long-term marriages, really long term. If you are going to be partners for the next 10-20 years, you better like each other. We have a no-asshole rule. We want investors who believe in our approach and ethos. My mentors at some of the top VC funds of the last 20 years have also coached us to keep the terms clean and I think a lot of emerging managers feel pressure to give special terms and ownership of their management company or GP, and long term, that might be something you regret.”

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

“While I haven’t said no yet, I have selectively not followed up. For example, after talking with other GPs, I’ve heard some LPs were tricky to manage – outside the norm. It’s okay to expect quarterly communications, but when people start pushing an agenda, that’s too much.

“Avoid LPs who ask you to give up economics as a GP or change your terms. LPs who want to negotiate lower management fees, a different carry structure, or they want to own 20% of the general partnership for the next three funds are best avoided if possible. They want to change the terms that everyone else has. I wouldn’t allow that. If other LPs find out (and they eventually do), it would cause my LPs to lose trust in me and rightfully be frustrated that they got worse terms.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

Do your LPs’ goals align with your fund goals?

“As we got into the process we realized there was, at the time (2013) some other attributes we needed to take into consideration. One for example was the LP’s definition of success.

“We wanted LPs who were investing in us solely because they thought we’d be good stewards of their capital and return above-benchmark results. If there was a second agenda that they made obvious we typically declined the opportunity to work together. Our mindset was that there’s so much risk in trying to build a new firm, let’s focus all of our energy on a single definition of success: cash on cash returns. That precluded taking capital from LPs who were emphasizing direct co-investment (some of our LPs have direct practices and we love to bring them in to portfolio company cap tables when there’s mutual interest but we didn’t want it to be an expectation) or strategic investors who had interests in our portfolio different than our own (e.g. corporates that wanted access to market information).”

— Hunter Walk, Homebrew

Do you have the bandwidth to teach?

“If someone wants to learn, that can take a lot of time. Time that, for you, might be better spent elsewhere. If you’d rather spend the time elsewhere, like with your portfolio or investing, be clear with expectations. And if they don’t budge, don’t take that money.”

— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

Beware of round tripping.

“I actually couldn’t take any Indian capital due to regulations. There’s a thing called ’round tripping.’ If a fund in India invests in a fund that’s built in the US, then invests back into Indian startups, that’s round tripping. And unfortunately, not allowed.”

— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

Check your CFIUS rules.

“Before you say yes to LPs, check the CFIUS rules. Under those guidelines, you may not be able to take money from certain countries and parties.”

— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

Did you take the right capital from the right people?

“Even though we heard ‘no’ a lot during our first fundraise we also turned down some offers. We’d already done a good job of pre-screening out LPs who we didn’t think were values aligned with Homebrew (e.g. money came from sources/institutions we wouldn’t want to work on behalf of).”

— Hunter Walk, Homebrew

“If they’re asking for things that you’re not comfortable with, then you probably shouldn’t work with them. The key is that there should be zero second-guessing. You need to be in a relationship with partners you won’t regret, during bull and bear markets. Ask yourself, ‘Did I take the right capital from the right people? Sometimes, it’s about where that capital came from and if you feel good about that. If there’s any inkling of doubt, don’t take the money or it’ll come back to haunt you.”

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

“You need to communicate your clear values as a fund and long-term platform. Any LPs not aligned on your mission and values would be people to say no to quickly.”

— Arjun Dev Arora, Format One

“So, I did say no. I turned down a million dollar check because I didn’t feel comfortable with him being in front of a founder. And we’re very geared on our community. Money’s nice, but it’s not everything.”

— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

“Another thing to be mindful of is if an LP has a history of making verbal commitments and then changing that number at closing. You want a reliable and trusted relationship. If you did a reference with another GP, and heard that an LP cut their commitment by 50% at the last minute, that capital’s just not worth the risk to me.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

Don’t tolerate disrespect.

“I said no to a few LPs in Fund II. This was largely because they were super disrespectful during the raise process. I had an LP fly in from the UK after already committing and was so insanely rude to me in front of his all-male team that I decided not to work with them. I also try to be very transparent for folks that might not be a great fit for the fund.”

— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

“Small things I look for include off-color jokes, like ‘Look at that hot chick,’ or asking stupid questions. Some LPs have said this to Elizabeth, ‘How do you balance being a mom and being a full-time investor?’ I dare people to ask me that question. I’m a dad and I’m still doing it, but no one does.”

— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Author’s Note: Eric goes into much more detail on ten reasons why you shouldn’t take LP money here, which I highly recommend a read.

Are your LPs disengaged during the diligence process?

“There are people who are disengaged in the diligence process. Those are people who are usually a bad fit.”

— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Look for complimentary experience and diversity of opinion and experiences.

“Like any cap table or LP base, what is important to us is to have partners who can grow with us for a long period of time and where we have diversity of thought, experience, and exceptions.  It was really important to Oceans and our ethos to have amazing founders and tech execs as LPs early on who could be great to lean on for diligence and additional leverage to support our founders and entrepreneurial family offices.  At the same time we have LPs who are extremely valuable on the finance side and who have a long history of investing in venture. Complimentary experience and diversity of capital is really important to us.”

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

“I also want to put it out there that GPs should be intentional about their LPs. For me, I aim to have my LP base include at least 50% who identify as women or non-binary, 10% black or Latinx, and 10% LGBTQ. Be intentional and solicit a diverse group of people. People talk about the diversity of founders and venture investors, but not about LPs. I think a lot about wealth creation, and it starts from the very top. I think people should be thinking about that a lot more.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

Don’t discount vibe.

“For Fund I, we had a chance to close $30 million worth of LP capital, but we only chose to raise $11 million. That’s a lot of people we said no to.

“It comes down to say a single word: vibe. It’s kind of like a marriage. ‘You’re trusting me with your wealth for a decade, if not more. It’s not a relationship we take lightly.’ I also share all the reasons why it won’t work out. So our LPs know what they’re getting themselves into.

“If something feels off, I don’t have to explain it. No one on our team has to explain it. If your gut feels like this could be off, we should just always trust that. Those one or two LPs your gut tells you is off are likely going to be super annoying,

“People like to logos their way out of things, but you really have to go back to gut feel. It’s almost never worth it. I can’t explain what an asshole feels like. But when you meet one, you know it.”

— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“If I have a gut feeling that something is weird, then I trust that.”

— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Big checks prevent you from bringing in other LPs you want.

“We haven’t had to say no to that many LPs. In our case, we either told them, ‘It’s too late – we’re full now and don’t have room for you.’ Or we talked LPs down from how much they wanted to commit. We had an LP who initially committed $22 million. And we told them, ‘Hey, we want to add more investors to our fund, so we don’t want to have any investors who commit more than $15 million.’”

— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

Sometimes, the check size is just too small.

“I’ve said no because people wanted to invest below the minimum. To which, I told them to wait until they could meet the minimum. I’m not in the business of putting people in financial distress. And if my minimum, which is modest by design, $100K, called over two years, puts people in a position where they are stressed out, they shouldn’t invest in me or perhaps venture as a whole.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“As the fund grew, I would turn down certain individuals due to check size.”

— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

But check size can vary based on an LP’s value to you or the portfolio.

“I also only reached out to people I wanted to have on board. The minimum check size did vary from individual to individual, which I largely based it off of the value they could provide for the fund and my portfolio companies.”

— Shiva Singh Sangwan, 1947 Rise

Or don’t settle and aim high.

“I hate the word ‘oversubscribed.’ It’s something I was lucky to learn very early on. Early in my career I had a board member say to me that if you hit your goals every quarter, your goals aren’t high enough.”

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

Author’s Note: As you might realize even more after the last three pieces of advice, there’s really no right answer.

How do GPs think about building an LPAC?

Your anchor and other major LPs will ask you to create one.

“On the LPAC, I think I can confidently say that no fund manager wants an LPAC and proactively creates one. It is usually the ask of an anchor LP as you scale fund size. For example, for my second fund, I was asked by an LP to create one, and I was told a good number of LPAC members is three. You want the anchor LP in the LPAC because they are your biggest investor, and the two others should be trusted partners who want to help you. It’s up to me who I ask assuming not many have asked to be a part of it.

“I’ve been told most managers will have a bi-annual quick check-in call just to talk about how things are going. TBD if I ever do this. On the other hand, a lot of managers try to wait until they have at least $100M in AUM to give into an LPAC. But I didn’t say no.”

— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

“I think it’s, in large part, who wants to be on it. A lot of your larger LPs, in exchange for 10% of your fund, want to be on your LPAC. There are some investors who committed 10% but don’t want to be on it. It’s not like a board. If people want to be on it, it’s okay.

“We have five on our LPAC, and it’s a good number. We give them an early look by sharing with them our plan and fund deck. So, they gave us early feedback, like on carry structure.”

— Sheel Mohnot, Better Tomorrow Ventures

If a smaller LP wants to be on the LPAC, push back by giving them options that fit what you’re looking for.

“There are no real rules about how you approach them. We typically like to have our largest investors in it, at least symbolically. They’re putting in the most risk, so they should have a say in the direction of the firm.

“If someone does ask for it, and if they aren’t a large enough check, we tell them, ‘We like to reserve this spot for our largest LPs because they have the largest exposure in our fund. We’re open to you being a member in our LPAC, if you increase your check size.” That way, you can leave the ball in their court. Either, they won’t push further or they’ll commit more capital to the fund.”

— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Evaluate a potential LPAC member on five different dimensions.

“So I will preface that emerging funds — Funds I to III or IV — are different from established funds, which have a mostly institutional base. Those who tend to write large checks may also be more inclined to want a seat on the LPAC.

“We look at it from these different dimensions, which we categorize into:

  1. Flexibility,
  2. Complementary skills,
  3. Ability to give honest feedback
  4. Value, and
  5. Capital

“So, flexibility is important because we’re not an institutional fund yet. The construction of the committee depends on the ebbs and flows of fundraising. Some investors don’t want to be on an LPAC — conflicting interests, not wanting to be actively involved, or just don’t want the time commitment. This’ll admittedly look very different for an institutional LPAC down the road for someone who has several hundred million in AUM. Institutional LPs will ask to have a seat on the LPAC, especially if they’re writing a check that accounts for 20% or more of the fund.”

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

Go to them if you plan to go off-thesis.

“You go to them for things you might think are a conflict. For example, if I say I write $1M checks and I am considering going off-thesis and writing a $250K check, I might want to gut check and get a thumbs up that I’m not being an idiot. It would be a super simple email saying: ‘Hey team, here’s the scoop – please share thoughts.’ It’s very loose.”

— Nichole Wischoff, Wischoff Ventures

Ask your LPAC what they’re seeing in other managers they’ve backed.

“I didn’t expect to negotiate my LPA with Cendana. I have Michael [Kim] and Yougrok [from GREE Capital] on my LPAC. Youngrok is someone I meet with very often. And since GREE backed us since Fund I, he’s seen my growth as a fund manager. Our LPAC offers a great and critical lens into the industry.

Individually, I chat with both quite often. Together, as an LPAC, we meet quarterly. We’re also going to have our first general annual meeting on April 21st.

What’s great about Michael and Youngrok is that I’m not afraid to ask questions I think are dumb. If you’re in your Fund I or II, like I am, you’re still figuring shit out. You’re still testing what works and resonates and what doesn’t. I ask them, ‘what have you seen other managers do in this situation?’ They’ve worked with so many other managers, and in learning from their deep knowledge, I’m better off as a manager. It’s about building BGV as a long-term institution.”

— Paige Finn Doherty, Behind Genius Ventures

Your LPAC is your LP base’s chief influencer.

“One useful note about having an LPAC is that sometimes you want to make a minor change to the LPA. Say you originally planned to only invest in North American companies, but now you want to invest 5% of the fund in African startups. If you don’t have an LPAC, you have to go back to all your LPs each time you change the parameters of the agreement. If you have an LPAC, they can approve those minor changes for you on behalf of the rest of the LPs.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“To be honest, I’m still confused about the purpose and concept of an LPAC. I like to think of the LPAC as the influencer of the LP base. They keep the investors’ interests in mind and help you communicate hard decisions to your investors.”

— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

Consult your LPAC for tough decisions.

“It definitely matters more at the end of the fund life. For instance, if we want to wait an additional year for Stripe to IPO. Then we consult with our LPAC to figure out the best way to message that to our LPs. Additionally, we can ask them what they think about a deal we’re about to do. It can also be useful in corporal situations. Hypothetically, if Elizabeth was beating me up, I can ask our LPAC to help me remove her.”

— Eric Bahn, Hustle Fund

“Since we’ve got a very small group of LPs that make up 95%+ of our funds, there isn’t much difference between our relationship with our LPAC and the other LPs. That said, we do have an LPAC and it’s composed of the largest investors in our funds. We meet with them once a year – typically a lunch before our annual meeting. And share the materials/discussion with the rest of the institutional LPs as well, so it’s less about anything confidential and more about a group of stakeholders we can get feedback from. Of course there are sometimes administrative aspects (approve us raising our recycling limits for a fund) but more often than not Satya and I are seeking feedback on questions we’re facing about how we want to manage the firm, tradeoffs between short and long-term thinking, and such.”

— Hunter Walk, Homebrew

“For us, when we constructed our LPAC, the questions we asked ourselves were:

  • Who do we think would be valuable in helping us balance short term decisions with long term thinking?
  • Who do we think will give us honest feedback and engage in honest conversations?
  • And who do we know has complementary DNA?”

— Steven Rosenblatt, Oceans Ventures

Find LPAC members who come from diverse experiences.

“I use it as a mini-board. I won’t go to it for big decisions, but I like the idea of surrounding myself with people who have different experiences than me, who have dissent, and make me a better investor.”

— Vijen Patel, The 81 Collection

Build an LPAC of different LP personas.

“If you have a great LPAC, they’re almost like a board of directors. You have some kind of cadence to get advice. If I did have one, I would like to do it with a group that represents my LP base – a few family offices, individuals, and people who could give really good advice.

“For first-time funds, you don’t want it to be any more than three to four people. And four to six for more established funds.”

— Sarah Smith, Sarah Smith Fund

“My advice to other VCs in building their LPAC would be to remember it’s about institutions, not individuals – your LPs representative might change over the course of the years. And, if applicable, to make sure you have a mix of LP types – for example, if your fund LPs are a mix of evergreen investment offices (such as most endowments) and folks who think of returns on a different cycle (fund of funds), include both.”

— Hunter Walk, Homebrew

The tech stack of engaging LPs

While I didn’t ask everyone this question, thought I’d share what notes I did have on some firms’ tech stack for engaging their LPs and managing their investor relations.

Wischoff Ventures — Airtable, Figma

“A spreadsheet/Airtable — I have everyone’s emails and copy-paste when I’m ready to send a quarterly update. I only talk to most once per quarter and it’s for my update. I built that in Figma (wouldn’t recommend it).”

Oceans Ventures — Affinity

“We use Affinity to manage our LP CRM. Our existing LPs get quarterly reports. And we try to write an LP update at least two times a year but will also often put out memos especially during key market moments. Also, since day one, we have a newsletter that keeps people up to date. It goes out every two to three weeks. And we have a personality. We’ve had other VCs tell us how excited they are to read it and we have LPs tell us they love our newsletter. We try to over-communicate and keep them heavily engaged.”

The 81 Collection — Streak, Airtable, Hubspot, Excel/Google Sheets

“We use Airtable, Hubspot, Excel and Google spreadsheets, but Streak is our main thing.”

Behind Genius Ventures — Cloze, Airtable, Google Drive, Webflow, Zapier, 1Password, Calendly, Twitter, Descript, Riverside

“We’re pretty software-heavy — something I picked up from my time at WorkOS. We use:

  • Cloze — as our CRM, where we track what cities folks are in in, who’s in the pipeline and more
  • Airtable — for portfolio management
  • Google Drive
  • Webflow — for our website
  • Zapier — but there’s only so much you can automate
  • 1Password — we’re pretty big on security
  • Calendly — but we’ve gone back and forth on that. I’m trying to spend more time with people who’ve invested in our fund, as well as the founders we invested in.
  • Twitter
  • Descript — for podcast transcriptions
  • Riverside — to record podcast episodes”

1947 Rise — Email, AngelList

“Regular LP updates, as well as my newsletter, have been my biggest engagement tool with LPs. I send the former out once a quarter, and the latter every few weeks. Luckily, I can also see all my LPs on my AngelList dashboard.”

Better Tomorrow Ventures — Carta, Affinity, Mailchimp, Aumni, Anduin

“We used Carta, Affinity, Mailchimp, Aumni for analytics, and Anduin to bring LPs in.  Fundraising is a bunch of chasing people down. Anduin’s a workflow tool. You can send people stuff and have people sign them all in one tool. Actually, several LPs told us that Anduin was the smoothest onboarding experience they’d ever had.”

“Mr. Huxley’s” Firm — Airtable, Notion, Whatsapp, Quickbooks, Google Drive

In closing

As I was writing this blogpost, a big part of me wanted a nice, easy linear narrative around LP construction. But I knew there wasn’t. In the many conversations that led to the above writing, it became quite evident there was no undisputed best way — no cure-all — to build an LP base.

Some believed in aiming high and never becoming oversubscribed. Others generated demand for their subsequent fund or was able to be judicious with their LPs by being oversubscribed.

Some built momentum by securing an anchor LP. Others started from individuals they knew the best.

Some didn’t budge on minimum check size. Others were flexible.

The list goes on and on. While there is no right answer, in knowing all of the above possibilities and strategies, I, and everyone who helped me make this blogpost a reality, hope you are armed with the knowledge to make the most informed decision for your fund. And to that, cheers!

Photo by Ivan Ragozin on Unsplash


Once again, and I cannot say this enough, a big, big thank you to Sarah Smith, Nichole Wischoff, Shiva Singh Sangwan, Vijen Patel, Eric Bahn, Paige Finn Doherty, Sheel Mohnot, Hunter Walk, Arjun Dev Arora, Steven Rosenblatt, and “Mr. Huxley” for our continuous back-and-forth’s, edits and of course, your insights.


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The Curious Case of Disappearing TVPIs

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In 2016, I jumped into the VC world, knowing no better than what my forefathers and foremothers taught me. Outside of a handful few, many of the people I looked up to and sought for advice had been in the business for less than a decade. In effect, they started their investing career after the GFC (Global Financial Crisis) in 2008. While they still bore more scar tissue than I did, I learned quickly that the one question to ask founders early on was “What is your last round’s valuation?” or “What valuation are you seeking?” For the latter question, the implicit answer we sought out for was their 12-month revenue. And subsequently, their valuation multiple. In Mark Suster‘s words, we were “praying to the God of Valuation.” But really, their exit multiples matter more than the entry or current multiple.

Going into 2023, we’re seeing median pre-money valuations drop across the board. Of which, late stage deals are taking the largest hit with over 80% drop in valuation at the Series D and over 70% drop at the Series C.

Source: Cooley GO

For fund managers and partners, the question was “What is your IRR or TVPI?” or “What’s your AUM?”. Rather, the answer we should be seeking isn’t some function of their portfolio’s valuations, but the quality of the businesses they invest in.

To be fair, I failed to fully appreciate the latter answer until this year.

The odds aren’t bad, but that doesn’t mean they’re great

Jared Heyman wrote a great piece last year on the probability of success for YC startups. After parsing through the data, he found that after a couple years of survival, a startup is just as likely to go through an exit (i.e. acquisition or go public) as it is to fail (i.e. inactive). Additionally, ~88% of startups reach resolution (exit or inactive) around the 12-year mark.

Source: Jared Heyman

It’s also interesting to note that the average time it takes for a YC company to exit (if they exit) is seven years. In fact, the time horizon has shortened in the past few years from an average timeline of nine years to five. Of course that’s pre-2022, so the time to exit is likely to increase once again to the mean or longer as:

  1. Markets are less liquid. Valuations drop. Rounds are smaller. Buyers are less eager to buy. Founders have less access to liquidity and exit opportunities. As such, the markets will demand more proof from founders of market traction.
  2. Investor sentiment is guarded, echoing Howard Marks. I haven’t seen the newest numbers but at best, I imagine we’ll see more capital go towards existing investments, maintaining overall investment volume. At worst, a decline of capital deployment, outside of ephemerally “hot” industries, like generative AI.
  3. Investors’ key worry is investment losses. Investors up and downstream become more risk averse.
  4. Interest rates are rising to curb inflation, leading to a debt investor’s market rather than an equity investor’s. Founders are likely to turn to expensive debt instruments (and many already have). Higher interest rates also mean greater return expectations from investors.

Jared does note in another piece that “while YC startups may cost 2-3 times as much as their non-YC peers to investors, they’re worth 6-7 times as much in terms of expected investor returns.” It’s great to be an LP in YC, but tough to be choosing YC startups. Of course, at the very end there’s a gentle reminder that VCs (and angels) are defined by the magnitude of their successes rather than the number of their failures (and successes). Just because a portco gets to an exit doesn’t mean it’ll be a fund returner. With shifting markets, this will be as true for YC under Garry’s leadership as for any other fund.

Of course, I don’t mean to pick on YC. They do a tremendous job of picking founders. And it’s true that they have set the golden standard for startup accelerators. It’s just that the above data was easily accessible.

Portfolio consistency

Interestingly enough, Oliver Jung, Airbnb’s former VP International, wrote half a month later that Adinvest’s Fund II made him $200 on every dollar he invested in the fund, largely because of a 1000x Adinvest II made into Adyen.

That’s a phenomenal outcome! To make investors back $200 on every dollar invested is definitely one for the books. The question becomes (and I have no inside scoop on this): How did the rest of the portfolio do? Was Adinvest’s Fund II purely based on luck or is there a consistent model that can be replicated in future funds?

For that question, it begs another. If we took out Adinvest’s investment in Adyen, what is the DPI (distributions to paid-in capital) of the rest of the fund? That will dictate Adinvest’s ability to raise a subsequent fund, at least from the larger, more sophisticated LPs. A great and consistent portfolio may look something a little like this.

Given that the average fund’s returns (with a large enough portfolio i.e. 100 portcos) normalizes to a 3x gross return — venture’s Mendoza line, 3-5x would put you in the ball park of good. High single digits would put you in the great category. And double digits would put you in epic.

And if Adyen really was the sole outlier success, did the GPs have the conviction to double down in subsequent rounds? If so, how did they earn their pro rata?

Sometimes all you need is one investment to push you from a nobody to a somebody, but if you’re intent on building a multi-decade-long career in the space, your founders should see you in the same or better light than those equipped with asymmetric information (i.e. those who read about you in the media).

While many Fund I’s and II’s may not have a reserve ratio, were the GPs and LPs able to continue to invest via SPVs? By doubling down, it’s the difference between a strategy to win and a strategy not to lose. How much of Adinvest’s AUM does their investment in Adyen account for? And being a fund manager means balancing oneself on the tightrope between the two strategies. In doubling down, that investment becomes a larger percent of the capital you manage (AUM). If you lose, you lose much more. If you win, you win a lot more.

Of course, this is true for any fund. I ended up overly picking on the case study of Adinvest to illustrate the point, but I have nothing against the great success Oliver, the other LPs and the team at Adinvest did have. On a broader spectrum, the purpose of having many shots on goal is theoretically so that you will have a few outliers. So your fund can grow based on a consistent strategy.

There are many times when all you have is that one outlier (often still in paper returns, not distributions yet). It happens. I’ve seen it happen. But if that one doesn’t work out, how forthcoming are you with your “disappearing TVPI?” I imagine a lot of investors who are planning to raise in 2023 will come face to face with these questions, having made big bets on hot startups in the last two years. Will you shrug it off? Or will you candidly share the lessons in which you learned?

The above is just something I’ve thought about a lot more as I see more emerging GP fundraising decks, as they boast about their angel portfolio (if they did have one).

In closing

There’s a proverb that goes: A broken clock is still right twice a day. You can be the worst investor out there, but with enough swings at bat, you’ll still be able to hit some outliers.

In the world of investing, you’re guaranteed to be wrong more often than you’re right. But I’ve seen many that do a lot of stuff ‘wrong’ and still have a winning fund. The big question… and the question, sophisticated and institutional LPs are asking is: Is it repeatable?

So, even if you did hit some home runs, is your success repeatable?


One last footnote. In talking with a number of investors who’ve been in the business for more than a decade, I’m starting to realize that selling (i.e. knowing when to sell and how much to sell) is just as important. An art and a science. I’ve written about it before (here and here), but I imagine I’ll revisit the topic again in long form soon. Especially as I see more discourse on the topic and funds close and liquidate in the near future. From great ones like Union Square Ventures to those who need to return some DPI to raise their next fund.

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How to Take Control of your Fundraising Process

It’s not often I get to work with someone I deeply respect on the content front. In fact, in the history of this blog, I’ve never done so before. But there are a rarified few in the world that if I was ever given the chance to work with them, I’d do so in a heartbeat. Tom White is one of them. As someone who I had the chance to work briefly with when our time at On Deck overlapped, he is someone I’ve been continually enamored with — both in how he commands the English language and in how intentional and thoughtful he is as an investor.

So when Tom reached out to collaborate on a blogpost for the Stonks blog, it was a no-brainer. And, the below is that product on how founders can own their fundraising process.


David’s note: Tom never ceases to amaze me on his ability to meme anything.

It’s a tale as old as time.

After a good meeting and a great pitch, the VC across the table (or on your screen in this day and age) offers a forced smile and utters: “Thanks again for making the time. Let me circle back internally and we’ll get back to you if we’re interested.”

If you have ever fundraised as a founder — hell, if you’ve ever fundraised, period — you have heard those fatal few words many more times than you care to remember. Though frequently said, the pangs of disappointment and frustration that they impart seldom fade away.

Fear not fellow founders!

To ensure you never hear those dreaded words again, we turned to the one and only David Zhou. A “tenaciously and idiosyncratically curious” writer and investor per LinkedIn, David pens the inimitable, brilliantly-named Cup of Zhou, scouts for a number of VCs, and helps run the On Deck Angel Fellowship.

Over to David!

Your ability to raise capital is directly proportional to your ability to inspire confidence in potential investors.

I’ll get into that, however, first a brief aside.

One of my favorite lines in literature comes from the seventh book of the Harry Potter franchise: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Inscribed on the golden snitch is a simple, but profound phrase: “I open at the close.”

In many ways, that line alone echoes much of the world of entrepreneurship. Whether backcasting from the future as Mike Maples Jr. puts it (i.e. great founders are simply visitors from the future) or breaking down your TAM to your SAM then SOM, the greatest founders — no, storytellers — start from the end. They share the future that they wish to see and distort today’s reality to fit into that predestined mold. Without further ado, my five tips on willing the future you want to see via successful fundraising.

1. Measure Founder-Investor Fit

Before you dive into talking with every investor under the sun, you must first understand there are more investors out there than you possibly have time for. You will never pitch every single one, nor should you. You need to be judicious with your time.

As you raise your first institutional round, you’re seeking out early believers. Julian Weisser — an investor with whom I’m lucky enough to work — calls this belief capital. You’re selling a promise, a vision.

And let’s be honest, at pre-seed there is no amount of traction that will convince any investor with numbers alone.

You see, it’s all about narrative building.

More on that below, but for early investors, it’s about whether they not only believe, but are also willing to fight for the future you collectively desire.

2. Close the First Meeting

I recommend that many founders with whom I work ask a two-part question heavily inspired by my conversation with Hustle Fund’s Eric Bahn for my emerging LP playbook: “Critical feedback is important to me in my journey to grow as a founder and a leader. So I hope you don’t mind if I ask, given what you know about my startup and myself: On a scale of one to ten, how fundable am I?”

To be honest, the number they give is inconsequential. That said, if they give you a ten, get a term sheet on the spot.

The more important question is the following one: “Whether I didn’t share it yet or don’t have it, what would get me to a ten? What would make this startup a no-brainer investment?”

Collect that feedback.

Put it in your FAQs.

Incorporate it into your next pitch.

Test and iterate.

I was listening to Felicis Ventures’ Aydin Senkut on Venture Unlocked recently and he mentioned that he iterated on his fund pitch deck every single time he got a no. And by the time he received his first yes from an investor, he was on the 107th version of the pitch deck.

As such, the answer to the second question should help you preempt and address concerns—explicit or implicit—in future pitches.

I discovered the below courtesy of the amazing Siqi Chen. Per a 2015 Harvard study, most people believe that people make decisions by:

  1. Observing reality
  2. Collecting facts
  3. Forming opinions based on the facts collected
  4. Then, making a rational decision.

But the reality is, people do not. People aren’t rational and investors are no exception.

Like everyone else, investors:

  1. Are presented with facts.
  2. Fit facts into existing opinions.
  3. Make a decision that feels good.

Most of these opinions are not explicit. It’s neither on the website nor laid out in the firm’s thesis.

The good news is that most investors will share the same reservations. If one investor hesitates about something, another will likely do so. The best thing a founder can do is to address it before it comes up.

For example, if an investor tells you that if you have a better pulse on the competitive landscape, you would then be a ten. In the next version of the pitch, you might say “You might be thinking that this space is highly competitive, and you’re right. At a cursory glance, we all look like we tackle the same problem and fight over the same users. But that’s when this space deserves a double take. Company A is best in class for X. Company B is second to none in Y. But we are world-class in Z. And no one is offering a better solution for Z. Not only that, customers are begging for solutions for Z. One in every five posts on Z’s subreddit asks for a solution like ours. But if you look at the responses, no one has a perfect solution for it. In fact, people are duct taping their way across this problem. Not only that, in the past three months, since we shared our product on the subreddit, we’ve had 10k signups to the waitlist with 500 of them paying a deposit to get early access to our product.”

On that note, I don’t think it’s worth trying to change the original investor’s opinion after they share such feedback. Most of the time, you’ve unfortunately lost your window of opportunity. If it takes X amount of information for an investor to form an opinion about you, it takes 2-3X the amount of effort and time — if not more — for him/her to change said opinion and form a new one.

Lastly, per Homebrew’s Hunter Walk: “Never follow your investor’s advice and you might fail. Always follow your investor’s advice and you’ll definitely fail.”

3. Schedule the Second Meeting during the First

Say the vibes are right and you get the impression that the investor really loves your product and/or your problem space and/or you as a person. When you’re raising your first institutional round, it’s either a “Hell yes” or a “No.”

Open up your calendar at the end of the first meeting and schedule your next meeting there and then, but be sure to give the VC enough time to talk with his/her team and also suggest where their firm might want to dive deeper. Give three options for topics to dive into the next meeting. For instance:

  1. The team and future hiring plans
  2. The vision and financial projections
  3. The product, demo, and team’s current focus

From there, have the investor pick one of the above before your next meeting. If they don’t, say something along the lines of: “During this conversation, you seemed to love to hear about the product, so we’d love to dive deeper into the product the next time around unless you prefer one of the other two options.”

Also, start tracking which paths seem to convert investors faster. For example, if 30% of the investors you talk to jump into diligence after hearing the vision, but only 15% convert after the product path, lead with the vision one first next time. “Most of our investors fall in love with us after hearing about the vision, and would love to share more on that at the next meeting.”

The moral of the story is simple: make it easy for your investor to say yes to the next meeting.

4. Realize that ‘No’ is merely a ‘Yes’ in Disguise

If you get the feeling that it may be a no, ask the investor, “What firm/investor do you think I should talk to who might be a better fit for what I’m working on?”

Do not ask for introductions. An introduction will come naturally if an investor is really excited about you. Additionally, even if the investor who passed does introduce you, a natural question will be: “Why didn’t you invest?”

This sets you up for failure because the other investor’s first impression of you will be negative. The only exceptions are if the reason is outside of your control. For instance, they’re raising their next fund since they don’t have any more to deploy out of the current fund, or they’ve recently changed their investment thesis away from what you’re building.

But I digress. What you should do instead is collect a Rolodex of names.

Never ever run out of leads. You never want to be in the position to beg someone who turned you down for money.

When a certain investor gets mentioned more than once — ideally at least three to four times — that’s your cue to reach out to them. “Hey Tom, we haven’t met before, but I’m currently fundraising for David’s Lemonade Stand. And four investors highly recommended I chat with you on the product, given your experience in food-tech and how you helped Sally’s Lemonade Bar grow from 10 to 500 customers.”

5. Use Investor Updates

Send interested investors weekly investor updates during your fundraise and monthly ones after its conclusion. Share important learnings, key metrics, and your fundraise’s progress.

Be sure to induce FOMO in your updates. Not in the sense that your round is closing soon, rather, that you’re at an inflection point right now in both your product and the market. Two example prompts:

  • Why are you within the next 12-18 months “guaranteed” (I also use this word hesitantly) to 10x against your KPIs?
  • Is the blocker right now a market risk (which leaves a lot for debate, and most investors will choose to wait for a future round) or an execution risk?
  • How have you de-risked your biggest risks?

Taking this a step further, you need the courage to “fire” an investor. If an investor doesn’t get back to you after two emails, it could just be that they’re busy. If they don’t get back to you after eight or nine emails, they’re just not interested. My rule of thumb is always three emails each a week apart for each investor. I have seen founders who have done more, but I would not recommend any fewer.

Regardless, whatever number you decide on, the last email ought to try to convert them. For examples:

“Since you haven’t gotten back to me yet about your interest, I assume you’re not interested in investing. As such, this will be our last investor update to you. If we are wrong, please do let us know.”

Interestingly enough I’ve seen more investors start conversations by this last email than by the very first. Remember to treat your fundraise like a sales pipeline; A/B test different copy and see which lands the best.

Concluding Thoughts


Remember, fundraising is a lot like life: it’s simple, but far from easy. It requires grit, determination, and a healthy dose of elbow grease. Despite current market conditions, forge ahead! Follow Jim Valvano’s lead and “Don’t give up. Don’t ever give up!”


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How Liquid Is Your Network?

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“How can I help?”

I’m sure every founder has heard that line at least 50 times every time they’re in fundraising mode. Hell, even outside of it. Pshhh, I’m guilty of saying it myself, while I do try to catch myself when I do. You’d think being helpful is table stakes as an early-stage investor. Surprisingly, being helpful as an investor is actually a huge differentiator.

Most investors are only as helpful as their check size, despite pitching their value-adds a million and one times. Some investors are extremely helpful only within the funding window(s) they are participating in. For instance, a seed investor is largely helpful during the 12-18-month funding window between the seed and the Series A. Others are helpful when they are asked. And a small handful of investors are true champions by being proactively helpful.

One of my favorite stories when I was interviewing LPs for the emerging LP playbook was when Brent invested in a GP who had a track record for being proactively helpful. This GP “was one of [Brent’s] first investors. He would often come into our office, and without being prompted, proceed to write code against our APIs.” Unprompted. Unsolicited, but insanely helpful.

Earlier this week, I was also reading the October investor update from a founder I love, and in it, he was talking about how much he loved the team at Sequoia (who have yet to invest), and shared that he had learned more about product in the last “3 days than [he had] in the last 3 months.”

A big part of the reason I joined the On Deck Angels team last year was to be a part of a community bringing the world’s most helpful investors together. As such, I’ve been lucky enough to be a student to our community on how they’re helpful — whether they choose to invest or not. Some examples include:

  • Writing a 3-5 page bug report for every founder you take a meeting with. This teaches an investor two things: 1/ to be judicious of one’s time and only take meetings with founders that you are truly likely to invest in, since these take a while to research and write up, and 2/ to always think in a “give first” mentality.
  • Record a Loom breakdown of why you decided to pass and what would get you over the fence. I’ve shared this before, but one of my favorite VC quotes and has been since the day I learned of it is: “There is no greater compliment, as a VC, than when a founder you passed on — still sends you deal-flow and introductions.”
  • Being able to admit how you can’t be helpful. As an investor, you don’t have to be good at everything, just really, really good at one thing, or a small handful of things.
  • Sharing their memos publicly on why they’re excited about a startup. This helps build a startup’s reputation, and also your own brand as a thought leader.
  • Sharing your deal memos and founder asks with your LPs (if you run a fund or syndicate). For this, admittedly, it’s best to get the founders’ approval, given the confidential nature of certain details.
  • Make an intro for every pitch meeting you take. Intros are often extremely high leverage. It takes you 1-2 minutes to write something up and send a double-opt-in intro. And oftentimes, can save the founders from at least tens of thousands of dollars worth of decision-making mistakes or costs. Of course, that requires you to have either photographic memory (which I don’t have) or a really good CRM. For the latter I use Airtable, and I track small details like: ideal catch-up frequency, preferred medium of communication, chill factor (yes, some of my intro emails can get a bit wonky depending on the person), and what makes them the best dollar on a founder’s cap table.

Many of the above aren’t necessarily hard to do, but just requires a consistent commitment to do them well. And of all the many ways one can help, they all fall into three buckets:

  1. Introductions
  2. Strategy, decision-making, and tactical advice
  3. Downstream and co-investment capital

The last is the most obvious. The second is easy to understand, but often the hardest to execute on, and often comes from being an active or former operator yourself. Hunter Walk of Homebrew has this line, “Never follow your investor’s advice and you might fail. Always follow your investor’s advice and you’ll definitely fail.” Advice is just as helpful as it is dangerous. Something I’ll likely dive into in a future blogpost.

But for the purpose of this one, I’ll focus on introductions.

Network liquidity

I was recently reading Shawn’s chronicled reflections from his time as a Partner at On Deck — someone I am deeply fortunate to have worked alongside. In it, one line immediately grabbed my attention:

“Network liquidity is table stakes. […] This refers to how successful we are at connecting founders to people that are relevant to their needs and asks. The most important dimensions to consider are accuracy (how relevant was an introduction) and speed (how fast did you deliver).”

In 2022, and I imagine even more so, in the next few decades, it’s not about who you know — ’cause frankly, everyone will know everyone else. Social media, the metaverse, web3, the Zoom-ification of everything, and the rush back to IRL will only make this easier. I don’t believe any investor — or in fact, anyone, period — will have a “proprietary network.” So instead of who you know, it’s about how well you know them, and your ability to leverage that relationship.

We see this especially in the venture markets. In my recent blogpost, Sapphire’s Beezer shared: “We have felt for a number of years now (including pre-COVID) that the concept of ‘proprietary deal flow’ is not really a thing. Proprietary access however is something we think is true, powerful and not simple to achieve (hence why powerful ).”

I wrote quite a relevant essay a few months ago about how to write email forwardables. In order to tap into someone else’s network liquidity, there are two things you must establish:

  1. Your rapport with the person you’re asking it from
  2. Their rapport with the person you want to get to know

Requester and matchmaker rapport

I can’t speak for everyone, but my willingness to make intros depends strongly on both of the above, especially the former. Selfishly speaking, even if I don’t know the person who will receive the intro nearly as well, to put it bluntly, if I know I can look good to that person when I make it, that’s a strong motivator to do so. For that to happen, I need to fall in love with something about you — the person who would like to be introed. It could be you (usually the greatest motivating factor) and your passion. Even better if your passion is contagious. It could be your product. Or your insight. Usually, it’s some permutation of the afore-mentioned.

I meet with 10-15 net new founders per week. 25-30, if it’s accelerator season. Given my job description, almost every single founder asks me for intros. Sometimes, even without context.

Matchmaker and intro recipient rapport

The other side of the equation is the rapport I have with the person you want to get to know. The truth is the world of intros is like any other asymmetric game. The most well-known, busiest, and often hardest-to-reach people are the ones bombarded with the most intro requests. But like any other human being on this planet, they only have 24 hours in a day.

As a matchmaker myself, I have to cognizant not to overwhelm incredibly busy individuals with a flood of intro requests. And it is my job to triage requests. Sometimes, it’s also helping, in the case of fundraising, founders recognize not what they say they want, but to help them figure out what they really need.

In making requests to famous friends

There are times when the busiest people I know are the only people are capable of fulfilling the ask. So, it also comes down to your accumulation of social capital with the intro recipient. I have two columns in my Airtable CRM, labelled:

  1. Why I am useful to them
  2. Is my usefulness a priority to them? (on a scale of 1-5)

With the former, have I given before I have taken? Have I helped them before? Additionally, is the intro request more of a give or a take? A great startup with a strong team and traction for an investor is more of a ‘give.’ It’s deal flow from them. On the flip side, a founder asking for free advice is more of a ‘take.’ In general, ‘takes’ require more social capital than ‘gives.’

With the latter, priorities change. You may be useful in one phase in their life, but no longer so, in another. For example, when an emerging manager is fundraising for their Fund I, I am someone who is extremely top of mind for them, but when they’re not, I slip in importance. But regardless of the phase in their life, if someone is kind and thoughtful AND you’ve helped with a major decision or inflection point in their life, they’ll always be around. That said, I never try to abuse that goodwill. Personally, I hate being in debt and having others be in my debt.

You can also be “useful” in many different ways. For instance, doing interesting things is one way. One of the most famous people I know with millions of followers across his socials is willing to entertain any ask I ask of him under the condition I invite him to every social experiment I host in LA.

In closing

The more relevant an ‘ask’ is to the recipient, the more likely they’ll respond positively. The more top of mind you are and the more social capital you have with someone, the faster they’re likely to respond. We live in a saturated market of attention. Everything in the world is asking for ours — social media, kids, friends, work, portfolio companies, chores, Netflix, and sleep. And by no means all encompassing.

As you scale yourself as an investor, it’s important to think critically about who is in your network and how well you know them. If you’re a syndicate lead with 500 LPs, how many of them are passive capital? How many of them want to actively help your portfolio?

If you’re an investor who’s a Xoogler and wants to leverage the Google network, who do you know will go out of their way to help you? How many of them have you on speed dial? Which vintage were you a part of?

The great Richard Feynman once said, “You must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool.” One of the greatest fallacies an investor or even a founder can make is to assume they have a larger leverageable network than they actually do. Only to realize that when you do need to draw on these connections, you’re unable to.

So, if you have the time this weekend or the next, sit down with a critical eye and ask yourself: How liquid is your network?

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The Eight Rules of Great Pitches

Over the week, I was revisiting some of the Instagram posts that I had saved over the years, and I re-discovered one of my favorites by Christoph Niemann sharing his kudos to the late Kurt Vonnegut.

Most of all, Vonnegut’s advice on writing applies just as much to other forms of storytelling. And if you know me, I was immediately reminded of pitching.

  1. Never waste someone else’s time.
  2. Give the listener someone to root for.
  3. Every character should want something, even if it’s a glass of water.
  4. Every sentence must do one of two things — reveal character or advance the action.
  5. Start as close to the end as possible.
  6. Be a sadist. Show awful things that happened to the characters.
  7. Write to please just one person. Don’t get pneumonia.
  8. Give your readers as much information as possible as soon as possible.

Never waste someone else’s time.

Teach your investor something they didn’t know before.

A lot of investors claim to be experts, and even more are seen as experts. Too often, founders blindly listen to what their investors tell them to do. As Hunter Walk of Homebrew once said, “Never follow your investor’s advice and you might fail. Always follow your investor’s advice and you’ll definitely fail.”

YouTuber Derek Muller just came out with a great video on the ideal variables that manifest expertise. Two of such variables are:

  1. Valid environments – environments that are predictable and have minimal attribution to luck
  2. Quick feedback loops

The problem with venture is that our feedback loops are incredibly long and drawn out. Oftentimes, it takes 7+ years to fully realize any kind of financial outcome, although there are many red herrings of outcomes in between, like new funding, brand-name investors, users (rather than customers, or people who actually pay for your product), mass hirings, and so on. Because our feedback loops are slow and luck plays a huge role in success, it’s hard to differentiate true experts in the field. All that to say, every investor is learning to be better, to have more data, to make better judgments than the next.

And if you can show that you know something worth our time again and again, it’ll be worth paying our tuition money to you.

That said, I don’t want to discount how some investors can be really helpful in particular areas that have valid environments and fast feedback loops. For instance, code, A/B testing distribution strategies, ability to help you raise your next round within a certain timeframe, or get you into Y Combinator. The determinant of success in the afore-mentioned has clear KPIs versus their own financial success in the fund.

Give the listener someone to root for.

Aka you. Why you?

Mike Maples Jr. once said, “We realize, oh no, this team doesn’t have the stuff to bend the arc of the present to that different future. Because I like to say, it’s not enough. […] I’d say that’s the first mistake we’ve made is we were right about the insight, but we were wrong about the team.”

“I’d say the reverse mistake we’ve made is the team just seems awesome, and we just can’t look past the fact that they didn’t articulate good inflections, and they can’t articulate a radically different future. They end up executing to a local maximum, and we have an okay, but not great outcome.”

There’s a category of founders that are going to win no matter if an investor chooses to invest or not. Most typically like riding this train. They have to do little to no work to be recognized as a great investor.

Then, there’s the cohort of founders that may or may not win on their current idea, but their investors really, really, really want these founders to win. These founders are the underdogs. They’re also the ones with often the craziest of ideas. Even more so, they’re the ones that if they win, these founders will redefine the world we live in today.

As a founder, you have two jobs when fundraising:

  1. You need to find the partners who really, really want you to win. As the great Tom Landry says, “A coach is someone who tells you what you don’t want to hear, who has you see what you don’t want to see, so you can be who you have always known you could be.”
  2. You need to give these partners the ‘why.’

And I promise you that ‘why’ is not because of straight facts, but because of a story. Why should people help you get what you deeply want?

Every character should want something, even if it’s a glass of water.

Speaking of what you deeply want, almost every founder I chat with pitches me their raison d’etre. A selfless reason to cure the world of cancer. Metaphorically speaking, of course. That’s cool. You can tell that to the press. It’ll make great PR.

Rather I care about the exact opposite. What is your selfish motivation? This is a question I personally like asking founders. Your selfless motivation keeps you going during the day, during peace-time, when things are going just right. Your selfish motivation keeps you up at night, when s**t gets tough. When no one else believes in you except for yourself.

I want to know that you want that so badly, that you’re able to go the distance. And if that same thing is something that your investor can relate to, then you have a match made in heaven.

Every sentence must do one of two things — reveal character or advance the action.

Let me revise the above. Every slide must do one of two things — reveal character or advance the action. Anything else is superfluous. That means, outside of your core slides — problem, solution, action plan/financial projections, rising conflict (aka competition, blockers and risks), and your team slide, everything else is superfluous. Or at least, save it for your data room.

I’m sure some investors would debate me on this, but every investor has a slightly different framework. The above is my own perspective. That said, every slide should give an investor 10% more conviction towards investing in your business — capping out at 70%. ‘Cause after 70, any additional information (in the first meeting) has diminishing returns.

Start as close to the end as possible.

No investor cares about which hospital you were born in, but they do care about when the fire first started. And they care about your inflection points, even if that’s still ahead of you.

Be a sadist. Show awful things that happened to the characters.

Grit is one of the hardest founder traits to measure over a 30-minute meeting. Even after prolonged and deliberate interaction, most of the time it’s still hard to grasp this amorphous quality. But if you ask most investors what is the number one trait of a great founder, it’s either grit or passion. The latter of which often serves as a proxy to grit.

If you’re regular here, you know one of my favorite quotes of late is Penn and Teller’s. “Magic is just spending more time on a trick than anyone would ever expect to be worth it.

Past performance is not a predictor of future progress. But it really does help. A lot. In a startup’s lifespan to becoming a leading business, there are 10-15 trials by fire. And for each one of those, the founders are required to pull off nothing short of a miracle. In fact, this next year will be exactly one of those tribulations for 99.9% of companies.

So, show moments in your life where you were able to pull off a miracle. And a miracle, by definition, is when the odds are heavily stacked against you.

Show excellence. Walk your listeners — your investors — through the journey of how you tasted glory. How you were able to achieve the seemingly impossible. Personally, this is why I love backing professional athletes, veterans, and chefs. Three fields (of, I’m sure, many more) that you really need to eat s**t to be one of the greats.

Write to please just one person. Don’t get pneumonia.

Every pitch should be tailored. Why would this investor be the best dollar for your cap table?

No investor (even if it’s true) wants to be just another investor. They want to be THE investor. Make them feel special. When you propose to your partner for marriage, you tell them why they’re the one for you, not why you’re the one for them. You get down on one knee and tell them why they are amazing. Not the other way around.

Give your readers as much information as possible as soon as possible.

The one-liner matters. It is the first point of interaction with your startup, and oftentimes, may be the last. Don’t shroud it in mystery and jargon. If you’re ever stuck here, remember Brandon Sanderson‘s First Law of Magic:

Your ability to solve problems with magic in a satisfying way is directly proportional to how well the reader understands said magic.

Equally so, the subject line of a cold outreach email serves the same purpose. This is especially true, when you’re reaching out to someone who you can reasonably assume has hundreds of emails in their inbox per week. For reference, and for the most part I’m a nobody compared to the partners at a16z of Lightspeed or Benchmark, and I get about 50 cold inbounds per week.

So, in my opinion, your subject line should have no buzzwords (well, because everyone’s using them). Think of it this way. Say you’re an author selling your new self-help book. And say your greatest distribution channel are likely bookstores in airports. If everyone in the self-help section has an orange cover with bold blue words, you want to be the one black and white cover book. And if everyone has black and white sleeves, you bring out the neons.

In the context of email subject lines, instead, you should include numbers. What is the one metric that you are killing it at? Just like what I recommend folks write in their email forwardables. Instead of “Invest in the Leading BNPL Solution in Latam”, use “BNPL startup growing 50% MoM”. Give the exact reason why your investor should be excited to invest in your company. Don’t save it behind eight clicks — Email, Docsend link, and another six clicks to get to the slide of importance.

People can only tell different, not better, unless it’s 10x. Mediocrity is a crowded market, so don’t waste your time there. Taking a quote out of Pat Riley‘s book, “You don’t wanna be the best at what you do; you wanna be the only one who does what you do.”

In closing

Storytelling is an emotional discovery. The facts don’t change, but a great pitch or story weaves seemingly disparate facts into a compelling narrative. One that inspires action and draws curiosity. In a saturated world of attention, you are fighting for minutes if not seconds of someone’s time. Make it valuable.

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