Some of you reading here are busy, so we’ll keep this top part brief, as an abstract sharing our top three observations of leading fund managers.
Generally speaking, don’t sell your fast growing winners early.
Except when…
Selling on your way up may not be a crazy idea.
You might sell when you want to lock in DPI. Don’t sell more than 20% of your fund’s positions unless you are locking in meaningful DPI for your fund. For instance, at each point in time, something that’s greater than 0.5X, 1X, 2X, or 3X of your fund size.
You might consider selling when you’ve lost conviction. Consider selling a position when you feel the market has over-priced the actual value, or even up to 100% if you’ve lost conviction.
You might consider selling when one is growing slower than your target IRR. If companies are growing slower and even only as fast as your target IRR, consider selling if not at too much of a discount (Note: there may be some political and/or signaling issues to consider here as well. But will save the topic of signaling for another blog post).
Do note that the above are not hard and fast rules. Every decision should be made in context to other moving variables. And that the numbers below are tailored to early-stage funds.
Net TVPI Benchmarks from Years 5-15Net DPI Benchmarks from Years 5-15
Let’s go deeper…
On a cloudless Friday morning, basking in the morning glory of Los Altos, between lattes and croissants, between two nerds (or one of whom might identify as a geek more than a nerd), we pondered one question:
Everyone seems to have a financial model for when and how to invest, but part of being a fiduciary of capital is also knowing when to distribute – when to sell. When RVPI turns into DPI. And we haven’t seen many models for selling yet. At least none have surfaced publicly or privately for us. The best thought piece we’ve seen in the space has been Fred Wilson’s Taking Money “Off the Table”. At USV, they “typically seek to liquidate somewhere between 10% and 30% of our position in these pre-IPO liquidity transactions. Doing so allows us to hold onto the balance while de-risking the entire investment.”
As such, it gave birth to a thought… What if selling was more of a science?
What would that look like?
Between two Daves, it was not the Dave with sneakers and a baseball cap and with the profound disregard to healthy diets, given the fat slab of bacon in his croissan’wich, who had the answer there.
“To start off, in a concentrated portfolio of 30 investments, a fund returner is a 30x investment. For a 50-investment fund, it’s 50x. And while hitting the 0.5x DPI milestone by years 5-8, and a 2x DPI milestone by years 8-12, is the sign of a great fund, you shouldn’t think about selling much of your TVPI for DPI unless or until your TVPI is starting to exceed 2-3x.” Which seems to corroborate quite well with Chamath Palihapitiya’s findings that funds between 2010 and 2020 convert have, on average, converted about 25% of their TVPI to DPI.
“Moreover, usually you shouldn’t be selling more than 20% of the portfolio at one time (unless you’re locking in / have already locked in 3X or more DPI). You should be dollar-cost averaging – ensuring time diversity – on the way out as well. AND usually only if a company that’s UNDER-growing or OVER-valued compared to the rest of your portfolio. Say your portfolio is growing at 30% year-over-year, but an individual asset is growing slower at only 10-20% OR you believe it is overvalued, that’s when you think about taking cash off the table. Sell part (or even all) of your stake, if selling returns a meaningful DPI for the fund, and if you’re not capping too upside in exchange for locking in a floor.”
Meaningful DPI, admittedly, does mean different benchmarks for different kinds of LPs. For some, that may mean 0.25X. For others that may mean north of 0.5X or 1X.
“On the other hand, if a company is outperforming / outgrowing the rest of the portfolio, generally hold on to it and don’t sell more than 10-20% (again, unless you’re locking in meaningful DPI, or perhaps if it’s so large that it has become a concentration risk).”
I will caveat that there is great merit in its counterpart as well. Selling early is by definition capping your upside. If you believe an asset is reaching its terminal value, that’s fine, but do be aware of signaling risk as well. The latter may end up being an unintended, but self-fulfilling prophecy.
So, it begged the question: Under the assumption that funds are 15-year funds, what is meaningful DPI? TVPI? At the 5-year mark? 7.5 years in? 10 years? And 12.5 years?
The truth is the only opportunities to sell come from the best companies in your portfolio. And probably the companies, if anything, you should be holding on to. By selling early, you are capping your downside, but at the same time capping your upside on the entire portfolio. When the opportunity arises to lock in some DPI, it’s worth considering the top 3-5 positions in your fund. For instance, if your #2 company is growing quickly, you may not be capping the upside as much.
Do keep in mind that sometimes it’s hard to fully conceptualize the value of compounding. As one of my favorite LPs reminded me, if an asset is growing 35% year-over-year, the last 20% of the time produces 56% of the return. Or if an asset is growing 25% YoY, if you sell 20% earlier (assuming 12 year time horizons), you’re missing out on 45% of the upside.
As a GP, you need to figure out if you’re IRR or multiple focused. Locking in early DPI means your IRR will look great, but your overall fund multiple may suffer.
As an LP, that also means if the gains are taxable (meaning they don’t qualify for QSBS or are sold before QSBS kick in), you need to pay taxes AND find another asset that’s compounding at a similar or better rate. As Howard Marks puts it, you need to find another investment with “superior risk-adjusted prospective returns.”
And so began the search for not just moolah in da coolah, but how much moolah in da coolah is good moolah in da coolah? And how much is great?
Net TVPI Benchmarks from Years 5-15Net DPI Benchmarks from Years 5-15
Some caveats
Of course, if you’ve been around the block for a minute, you know that no numbers can be held in isolation to others. No facts, no data points alienated from the rest.
Some reasons why early DPI may not hold as much weight:
Early acqui-hires. Usually not a meaningful DPI and a small, small fraction of the fund.
There’s a possibility this may be the case for some 2020-2021 vintages, as a meaningful proportion of their portfolio companies exit small but early.
In other words, DPI is constructed of small, but many exits, rather than a meaningful few exits.
TVPI is less than 2-3x of DPI, only a few years into the fund. In other words, their overall portfolio may not be doing too hot. Obviously, the later the fund is to its term, the more TVPI and DPI are alike.
As a believer in the power law, if on average it takes an outlier 8 years to emerge AND the small percentage of winners in the portfolio drive your return, your DPI will look dramatically different in year 5 versus 10. For pre-seed and seed funds, it’s fair to assume half (or more) companies go to zero within the first 3-5 years. And in 10 years, more than 80% of your portfolio value comes from less than 20% of your companies. Hell, it might even be 90% of your portfolio value comes from 10% of your companies. In other words, the power law.
GPs invested in good quality businesses. Some businesses may not receive markups, but may be profitable already, or growing consistently year-over-year that they don’t need to raise another round any time soon.
Additionally, if you haven’t been in the investing game for long, persistence of track record, duration, and TVPI may matter more in your pitch. If you’ve been around the block, IRR and DPI will matter more.
As the great Charlie Munger once said, “selling for market-timing purposes actually gives an investor two ways to be wrong: the decline may or may not occur, and if it does, you’ll have to figure out when the time is right to go back in.” For private market investors, unless you can buy secondaries, you’ll never have a time to go back in until the public offering. As such, it is a one-way door decision.
Some LPs are going to boast better portfolios, and we do admit there will be a few with portfolios better than the above “benchmarks.” And if so, that’s a reason to be proud. In terms of weighting, as a proponent of the power law, there is a high likelihood that we’ve underestimated the percent of crap and meh investments, and overestimated the percent of great investments in an LP’s portfolio. That said, that does leave room for epic fund investments that are outliers by definition.
We do admit that, really, any attempt to create a reference point for fund data before results speak for themselves is going to be met with disagreement. But we also understand that it is in the discourse, will we find ourselves inching closer to something that will help us sleep better at night.
One more caveat for angels… The truth is as an angel, none of the above really matter all that much. You’re not a fiduciary of anyone else’s capital. And your time horizons most likely look different than a fund’s. It’s all yours. So it’s not about capping your downside, but more so about capping your regret. In other words, a regret minimization framework (aka, “spouse regret/yelling minimization insurance”).
That will be so unique to you that there is no amount of cajoling that we could do here to tell you otherwise. And that your liquidity timelines are only really constrained by your own liquidity demands.. For instance, buying a new home, sending kids to college, or taking care of your parents (or YOU!) in their old age.
But I do think the above is a useful exercise to think through selling if you had a fund. You would probably break it down more from a bottoms up perspective. What is your average check size? Do you plan to have a concentrated portfolio of sub-30 investments? Or more? Do you plan to follow on? How much if so? And that is your fund size.
In closing
Returning above a 3x DPI is tough. Don’t take our words for it. Even looking at the data, only 12.5% of funds return over a 3x DPI. And only 2.5% return three times their capital back on more than 2 separate funds.
In the power law game we play, as Michael Mauboussin once said, “A lesson inherent in any probabilistic exercise: the frequency of correctness does not matter; it is the magnitude of correctness that matters.” Most will return zero, or as Jake Kupperman points out: More than 50%.
But it’s in the outliers that return meaningful DPI, not the rest. Not the acqui-hire nor really that liquidation preference on that small acquisition.
At the end of the day, the goal isn’t for any of the above to be anyone’s Bible, but that it’d start a conversation about how people look at early returns. If there is any new data points that are brought up as a result of this blogpost, I’ll do my best to update this thread post-publication.
Big thank you to Dave McClure for inspiring and collaborating on this piece, and to Eric Woo and all our LP friends who’ve helped with the many revisions, sharing data, edits, language and more. Note: Many of our LP friends chose to stay anonymous but have been super helpful in putting this together.
Footnotes
For the purpose of this piece, we know that “good” and “great”, in fact all of the superlative adjectives, are amorphous goalposts. And those words may mean different things to different people. This blogpost isn’t meant to establish a universal truth, but rather serve as a useful reference point for both LPs, looking for “benchmarking” data, and GPs to know where they stand. For the latter, if your metrics do fall in the “good” to “great” range, they’re definitely worth bragging about.
And so with that long preamble, in the piece above, we defined “good” as top quartile, and “great” as top decile. “Good” as a number on its own, enough for an LP to engage in a conversation with you. And “great” as a number that’ll make LPs running to your doorstep. Or at least to the best of our portfolios, leveraging both publicly reported and polled numbers as well as our own.
Our numbers above are also our best attempt in predicting steady state returns, divorcing ourselves from the bull rush of the last 3-5 vintage years. As such, we understand there are some LPs that prefer to do vintage benchmarking, as opposed to steady state benchmarking. And this blogpost, while it has touched on it, did not focus on the former’s numbers.
EDIT (Aug 18, 2023): Have gotten a few questions about where’s the data coming from. The above numbers in the Net DPI and Net TVPI charts are benchmarks the LPs and I agreed on after looking into our own anecdotal portfolios (some spanning 20+ years of data), as well as referencing Cambridge data. These numbers are not the end-all-be-all, and your mileage as an LP may very much vary depending on your portfolio construction. But rather than be the Bible of DPI/TVPI metrics, the purpose of the above is give rough reference points (in reference to our own portfolios + public data) for those who don’t have any reference points.
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The thing is this is the first real recession I’m working in. I entered the workforce something in the midst of one of the longest bull markets in modern history. So, naturally, I had a lot of questions. One of which I asked one of my mentors in VC who’s been through a few cycles late last year. “Are there any leading indicators that foretell when we’re going to get out of a recession? Or when we truly hit rock bottom in a recession?”
And he said something that made complete sense. “When the frequency of mass layoffs, especially from some of America’s largest employers, slows to a halt.”
Since then, every month or so, I check in the number of WARN notices that come in which require companies doing a mass layoff to publicly report a layoff 60 days in advance. For instance, you can find California’s here.
As Chamath Palihapitiya puts it in his 2022 annual letter, “while we believe that most of the multiple contractions in these markets have largely worked their way through the system, we suspect there is still some more room to fall — particularly if the U.S. enters a recession in the coming year.” Since it seems layoff season is yet to pass, it seems wise to buckle in for the longer run.
While friends have asked me when the recession will end, I responded with a simple “I don’t know.” No one does. And while many may make conjectures on the timing, the one thing we can use this free fall for is to build a heat shield.
I really like this one line in Chris Neumann‘s recent blogpost on antifragility. “As great as it sounds for a startup to get stronger when unexpected events occur, I don’t actually think that’s a realistic goal for most companies (it certainly isn’t the case for VC firms). Rather, I think the goal in making antifragile startups should be to minimize the risk and distraction when unexpected events occur, such that the company can continue to make progress while its competitors are panicking and reacting.” One thing’s for sure. The world is host to a plethora of distractions. Something we won’t be in shortage of. With each black swan event, we will only be left with a surplus of attention stealers.
And I’d be presumptuous to say that the best do not get distracted. Rather the best realize when they are and have ways to get back to a focused flow state. Simply put, it’s helpful to play a game of What if? What if this unexpected shock happens? How will I react when my servers get hacked? How do I react when my cash flow is constrained due to an unpredictable event? And in each broad category of What if’s, do you have a way to hedge the risk?
Sometimes, it’s preparing for the unexpected black swan event.
That’s why code is redundant to prevent the fragility of storing it only on one server.
It’s why you should have your cash in multiple bank accounts, with at least one of them being a big 4. A few top firms, including General Catalyst, Greylock, and Redpoint, have also said, “Keep two core operating accounts, each with 3-6 months of cash. Maintain a third account for ‘excess cash’ to be invested in safe, liquid options to generate slightly more income.” All to protect against the downside risk of losing all your money when you put your eggs in one basket.
But when the black swan does hit, prioritization matters even more. When the pandemic hit and Airbnb was between a rock and a hard place, Brian Cheskydescribed it, “We realized not everything mattered. And it was like if you have to go into a house — your house is burning — and if you could only take half the things in your house, what would you take?”
Chamath went on to write in the same letter. “The most alarming consequence in startup-land has been the divide it has created between the management teams who have ‘found religion’ (i.e. made the tough decisions and managed their businesses smartly) and the rest who are trying their best to avoid reality.” And those tough decisions include, “cutting non-core projects, lowering costs, and vastly reducing G&A while getting to profitability [which] is now mandatory — otherwise you will have to face the consequences.” Those same tough decisions set teams up for success in bad times and bear markets.
In closing
Recently on the Tim Ferriss Show, David Deutsch said, “wealth is not a number. […] It is the set of all transformations that you are capable of bringing about.” Similarly, a company’s revenue is not just another number. It is a product of all the miracles that the company willed into existence. Crossing the chasm. Leaping over hurdles.
To take a line out of Nassim Taleb‘s book, “Crucially, if antifragility is the property of all those natural (and complex) systems that have survived, depriving these systems of volatility, randomness, and stressors will harm them. They will weaken, die, or blow up.” We need black swan events to create miracles. And we need miracles to create stronger, more resilient companies.
Trauma strengthens us. You need to bleed to grow scars. You need to feel pain before you grow calluses. The product of each makes one more resilient to pain and injury in the future.
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In an industry that is heavily apprenticeship-driven, the more tactical advice one gets, the faster they grow. Historically, that meant a senior partner taking you under their wing. Or maybe 2-3. While I’ve been lucky to work and learn alongside some of the world’s most exceptional minds in the funding landscape, I’ve always found it helpful to have multiple teachers. Some in the form of books. Others in the form of shorter form content. Tweets. Social posts. Podcasts. And of course, from the insightful conversations that I have weekly. At the same time, in hopes of supporting the growth of others in this industry (such a small world, but it just isn’t helpful enough), this blog has been and will continue to be my vehicle for stewarding information and insights from the best.
Just like in both of my initial pieces of 99 pieces of advice for investors and founders I wrote in April 2022, this will be a continuation and an evolution of the last. While this will cover more of the same topics as last time, like startup investing, pitching to LPs, and fund strategy, I’m personally really excited about the some new categories, like succession planning, tax, and how to think about exiting positions.
And while I do write long form posts most of the time, and have been guilty of well… longerrrrrr form essays (and maybe one day with even more r’s), like this or this… I digress. While I do enjoy long form expositions, some things are best shared without superfluousness.
Most of the advice below captures the essence of a TikTok or Instagram Reel or a YouTube short. Choose your fancy. Many of which answers the age-old podcast question: “If you were to share one piece of advice with your [insert age]-year old self, what would it be?” Or “What advice would you give someone starting their first fund today?“
And now with “new and improved UI” (don’t get too excited, just number count of soundbites in each category), each fall in one of ten categories:
1/ You can’t be in every good deal, but every deal you’re in better be good.
2/ “You’re not defined by your worst investment. All angels will have failures in their portfolio. It’s part of the process.” – Brian Rumao
3/ “The weird thing is when late stage went from the hardest part of venture to the easiest. And that should have been the flag to everybody.” – Jason Lemkin*timestamped May 2022
4/ “The older you get, the younger your mentors should be.” – Samir Kaji
5/ “Your brand is what people say about you when you’re not in the room. It’s their first reaction when they see an email from you in their inbox. You build that brand — or not — with every interaction.” – Chris Fralic
6/ “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” – Winston Churchill
7/ When there’s risk involved, don’t let the outcome determine the quality of your decision. – Andy Rachleff
Investing — Deal flow, theses, diligence
8/ When assessing startups against their incumbents, consider their incumbents’ ability to hire top talent. For instance, if the incumbents are banks that are known for slower logistical and bureaucratic procedures, it’s easy to hire the best talent out there. On the other hand, if the incumbents are Coinbase, that’s still a fairly young, sexy company that’s innovating quickly, hiring top (technical) talent is more challenging. Shared by a former executive and founder with 2 exits, turned fund manager with 2 funds.
9/ If you’re not getting a call from a founder when they’re in trouble, you’re probably not getting a call from a founder when they’re raising their next big round. – Zach Coelius
10/ Pick great market inflection points to bet on. “The founder is the surfer. The product is the surfboard. The market is the wave. The wave matters most.” If you bet on a good surfer on a bad wave, they’re not going to get you the returns you want. Some Sequoia partner.
11/ Ask for investor updates (before investing). Before you invest, ask for the most recent investor updates. Helps you understand how founders think and communicate. – Brian Rumao
12/ Align with the founders, but also employees on valuations and dilution. – Nikhil Basu Trivedi
13/ The earlier you invest and the more you care about ownership, the more active role you’re expected to take in your portfolio company. You can’t expect to take large ownerships, and not actively help anymore. If you want to be a hands-off investor, you don’t have a right to fight for ownership. In a bull market, founders get picky about who’s on their cap table (as they should be). Focus on your check size to helpfulness (CS:H) ratio. Inspired by Jason Lemkin.
14/ “We have no fear. If we could find God’s phone number, we’d call him.” – David Beirne of Benchmark Capital fame, cited in eBoys. You are never too good to cold-call.
15/ Create a list of your favorite builders (i.e. engineers, community managers, executives, etc.). Then scrape Delaware incorporation docs regularly to see if any on the former list pop up in the search. If so, reach out to them early.
16/ Ask the founders to see different versions of the pitch deck. While we always say, “investors invest in lines, not dots”, oftentimes it’s hard to measure the slope (rather than y-intercept) when you’re meeting only with a founder at the beginning of their fundraise and not sooner. But one way to see is watch how much the pitch decks changed over time (and how quickly the founders incorporated feedback).
17/ Invest in companies that will be timeless. Where there will still be customers in a recession.
18/ If the competitors of the startup are being bought by private equity firms, then it may be a lucrative space to invest into. The competitors’ innovation slows, and optimizing for profit and the balance sheet becomes a priority when PE firms come in. – David Sacks
19/ There is a superpower to be speaking the same native language as the founders you back (and for them to their customers). Try to understand them for their position of strength.
20/ “The market you’re exiting in is not the one you’re funding now.” – Ben Narasin
21/ “There’s another phenomenon that happens in a time like this: Google’s not hiring. Facebook’s not hiring. People are clamping down. Guess what happens to their most advanced projects? They go. And guess who are the best people in any large company? The best people are working on the most advanced projects. They are the ones who want to do visionary things. They’re the fodder entrepreneur for venture capitalists. So I think many more of the best people — not because they’re not getting paid huge raises in compensation — but because they’re working on less interesting projects — will leave to follow their vision.” – Vinod Khosla (timestamped Oct 28, 2022)
23/ “Funny people are really underrated. […] Charismatic leaders are pretty funny. Humor is a really important emotion for two reasons. One is if you can evoke it a lot and be funny, you can create a sense of bonding. Generally speaking, in a remote world, there is a shortage of emotions you feel. An exchange between us now as we stare at each other in our computer monitors is maybe 1/100th of what it would have been in the real world. When you think about it, why do movies succeed? Movies substitute the real world interaction with synthetic emotion. So… horror, humor, action, drama. So you want leaders who can do the same over Zoom. That’s why Peloton instructors have all the jokes that they’re saying. It’s same exact effect.
“But there is a second reason to why humor matters, which is if you were to imagine a Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, I at least find with myself, I’m not able to think of a joke if basic stuff isn’t right. […] You do have to be careful of the ‘court jester’ type. These are people who are so insecure that they’ll do anything to get a [cheap] laugh.” – Daniel Gross. For example, cursing or vulgar jokes or making fun of others are examples of cheap laughter.
24/ For follow-on checks, Founders Fund and Saastr invest 10% of the fund in each of their “winners”. – Jason Lemkin
25/ “Whenever a CEO blames their bad performance on the economy, I knew I had a really crappy CEO. ‘Cause it wasn’t the economy, it was a bad product-market fit. The dogs didn’t wanna eat the dogfood. Sometimes the economy can make that a little worse, but if people are desperate for your product, it doesn’t matter if the times are good or bad, they’re going to buy your product.” – Andy Rachleff
26/ “[Peter Reinhardt] would put plants in different parts of the office in order for the equilibrium of oxygen and CO2 to be the same. He would put noise machines in the perfectly placed areas and then reallocate the types of teams that needed to be by certain types of noise so that the decibel levels were consistent. What I don’t think people realize about founders is that they are maniacal about the details. They are unbelievable about the things that they see.” – Joubin Mirzadegan
Value add
27/ Everyone says they’re a value add investor or founder friendly. And every founder goes through these 10-15 moments in their founder journey from which they lose sleep over. How many of your portfolio founders call you first if shit hits the fan? Those will be who you’re remembered by. No other portfolio founders will remember you.
28/ The network you bring is table stakes. That will neither help you win deals or raise LP capital when it really matters.
29/ “Dirty secret of VC platform teams: they are more about scaling the GP than the founder.” – Sarah Tavel
30/ Are you uniquely positioned to get allocation on the cap table because you can be a value add to these companies? – Vijen Patel
31/ Sometimes the most helpful thing you can do is to say no. When founders ask for introductions, and you don’t think they’re a good fit for your investor network, “It’ll be tough for you to fundraise right now. And if you jump in a conversation now with these other investors, it’ll hurt your ability to fundraise when you finally iron out those 1-2 key metrics and get to that inflection point.”
32/ Before the term sheet is signed, sit down with them and say this. “‘Listen. The chances this company gets to the finish line – the finish line being this fantastic exit – we don’t know what they are. But what I do know is that there is a chance, a high probability, that the company will fail. And I want you to think about this as an opportunity cost. I want you to think about every day you walk in the door to this company or turn on this Zoom as an opportunity cost. If it is not working, I want you to tell me, ‘It’s not working.’ And let’s have just a dispassionate conversation about what that means, so that we don’t waste any more time trying to make it work. And I promise you I will do the same.’
“And if you can set those guidelines from the beginning, you can move onto something that might have better timing. The founder can. And I can. Be aware of what failure looks like.” – Maha Ibrahim
Pitching to LPs
33/ Don’t promise your LPs guaranteed co-investing rights to go directly on the cap table of your portfolio companies. Let the founders decide who gets to invest on their cap tables. – Samir Kaji.
34/ A typical emerging fund takes 1-2 years to raise <$10M. Plan for that timeframe. A fast raise is 6 months. – Elizabeth Yin*timestamped April 2022
35/ To LPs there are 4 main metrics that are of note. Gross and net IRR to show how cash efficient you are, as well as how your portfolio is marked up. TVPI and DPI to show your paper returns and cash you’ve returned to your LPs, respectively. – Chamath Palihapitiya
36/ When you’re pitching institutional LPs (i.e. endowments, pension funds, university investment offices, etc.), you’re bet against 10-year life cycles and portfolio strategies. When benchmarking metrics (i.e. IRRs and TVPIs/DPIs), you have to show you can outperform other asset classes (i.e. real estate) and the public market equivalent (PME). Comparing and contrasting is often the most effective.
37/ When you’re pitching individual LPs (i.e. angels, or “belief capital), largely true for Fund I’s and II’s, it’s about personality and promise. Do people like you? Do you bring in great top of funnel deals? Are you different?
38/ “Don’t run out of leads.” You want to be constantly meeting new investors, ’cause you don’t want to be in a situation where you have to go back and convince people who are clearly not sold. – Elizabeth Yin
39/ If your Fund I consists of mostly individual LPs (i.e. accredited investors, but not qualified purchasers), you’re going to have to fundraise from scratch in Fund II and III. Since they have less of a net worth than institutional LPs, they most likely don’t have the capital to: (a) re-commit for a subsequent fund, (b) and even if they do, they won’t have enough to meet the minimum check size, assuming Fund II/III is bigger than Fund I. Inspired by Elizabeth Yin.
40/ Ask LPs what they like and what they don’t like about the pitch deck, and use each conversation as a learning and refining process.
41/ Figure out how much money you’re capable of raising in Fund I, and raise 25% less. It’s much better to be oversubscribed than suffer from lack of momentum. And leverage the “oversubscription” to help you raise Fund II, III, and so on. Told me to by someone who has sat on over 6 LPACs(LP advisory committees) in his career so far.
42/ The median family office check into first-time fund managers is $750K, with over 80% of family offices investing into first-time managers.
43/ “Does the world need another VC fund?” Most LPs don’t think so, so you need to convince them why you should exist.
44/ Before wasting your time pitching to some LPs, ask “Are you actively investing in venture funds at this time?” Many take meetings, but aren’t. Your time is precious.
45/ You’re going to raise from friends and family in the beginning. Your second cohort of LPs will be people you have a substantial network to. In other words, investors who you have many duplicate warm connections with, so that they can easily qualify your ability. – Dylan Weening
46/ In a recessionary market, LPs find themselves rebalancing their asset allocations. As their public market assets go down, they find themselves overallocated into venture. As such, they’re investing in less new managers. So in order to raise as an emerging GP from these LPs, you need to replace someone they’re currently investing into. That means you need to: (a) outperform them (4x TVPI is table stakes), and (b) have one compelling story on why you, backed by numbers.
47/ When doing diligence, sophisticated LPs evaluate you based on consistency. They will evaluate fund/portfolio performance with AND without your top investment. Hence, they expect a minimum number of investments in your portfolio – usually 20 to 30.
48/ Some LPs have been burned by staying invested in yesterday’s firms for too long. The top firms a decade ago are not the same top firms today. These firms often have an emerging GP thesis.
49/ “This is not a one-trick-pony relationship. You’re a capital allocator. The cost of finding new relationships to build is significant. You need to seek long-term capital allocation partners. Have a three to five fund view – multi-decade relationships. How repeatable is your success?” Shared by an LP in 30 funds.
50/ “The best filter for this is figuring out what [an LP’s] minimum check size is. And, is that greater than 20% of your fund size? If so, it won’t be a good fit.” – Sarah Smith
51/ “There’s a thing called ’round tripping.’ If a fund in India invests in a fund that’s built in the US, then invests back into Indian startups, that’s round tripping. And unfortunately, not allowed.” – Shiva Singh Sangwan
52/ “Before you say yes to LPs, check the CFIUS rules. Under those guidelines, you may not be able to take money from certain countries and parties.” – Arjun Dev Arora
53/ “Valuations are not the way you judge a venture capitalist, or multiples of their fund. […] The way that I judge a venture capitalist is by how many companies did they back that grew into $100M revenue businesses.” – Andy Rachleff
Fund strategy/portfolio construction
54/ It’s often good practice to not lead syndicates the same time as you’re raising for a fund (outside of SPVs to maintain pro rata). It gives too much optionality to LPs. For the most part, it’s easier sell a deal than it is to sell a fund.
55/ Typical GP commits are 1-2% of the fund. If you’re unable to do so (or even if you are), good practices include recycling fees and deal warehousing. The latter is where you keep a portfolio of personal investments in storage before launching the fund. Warehousing deals de-risk the deal by allowing LPs to participate in marked-up deals at more lucrative, aka lower valuations.
56/ In a downturn, investors are still funding startups but adding in more terms in the form of side letters. The riskier the bet, the greater the liquidation preferences, anti-dilution provisions, and minimum hurdle rate expectations.*timestamped in April 2022
57/ “Bank loans for VC funds have short paybacks (90-180 days). The 2+ year paybacks relate to large PE funds. IRR boost is minimal in VC.” – Samir Kaji
58/ Don’t be scared to recycle carry early. Most funds suffer from under-deployment, which usually leads VCs to deploy the last 25% of capital either towards deals with high valuations or in difficult situations (down rounds, pay to play rounds). – Villi Iltchev
59/ While pro rata rights are technically legally binding, earn the right to invest in subsequent rounds, rather than just expect it.
60/ Liquidation preferences have little impact on fund returns, which makes sense when you actually think about it, but many VCs add these provisions to protect their downside. Data shows that only the bottom quartile funds see IRR impacted greater than 1% due to liquidation preferences. Returns are driven by the winners in your portfolio where liquidation preferences don’t matter. There’s a big difference in a strategy to win versus a strategy not to lose.
61/ IRR is a vanity metric for funds early in their life cycle. While it can be a useful metric for LPs to compare across vintages and their portfolio, overoptimizing for it gives a false sense of hope. Why? IRR values quick capital deployment. Recycling hurts IRR. Many things change over the span of a 10-15 year fund. – Seth Levine.
62/ Ownership and pro rata allocations are inversely proportional to the number of portfolio companies in a fund. Many managers can’t get 100% of their pro rata allocations, but rather only 50-75% of their allocations. Inspired by Henri Pierre-Jacques.
63/ Venture reserves make less sense in a bull market. Reserves are usually put into a fund’s winners. But in a hot market, a larger percentage of your portfolio companies get mark ups – making it harder to differentiate signal from noise. Reserves make sense in a bear market when it’s easier to differentiate signal from noise. In a bull market, it might be better to have no reserves, and spin up SPVs for a follow-on strategy.
64/ Your ability to get into later rounds, not just ’cause of pro-rata rights, should be a big determinant if you have a reserve strategy. Can you earn your allocation in later rounds? Will founders fight for you even when downstream investors want more equity? The best companies are hot commodities. Even if you have a follow-on strategy, you might not be able to get in those subsequent rounds.
65/ If you want to include more than 99 accredited investors in your fund, set up a parallel structure where you have one fund for accredited investors (<$10M) to include 249 accredited investors, and another fund for qualified purchasers (QPs).
66/ “The best way to protect yourself against the downside is to enjoy every bit of the upside.” – Bill Gurley
67/ If you have a parallel fund structure (i.e. one for accredited investors, one for qualified purchasers (QPs)) and you’re going through rolling closes, understand that your initial allocation in each deal will change as a function of each fund’s committed capital from LPs.
For example, let’s say you’re raising a hypothetical $100M fund – a $10M fund for accredited investors, and $90M for QPs. Let’s call the $10M fund Fund IA, and the $90M fund Fund I. On average, QPs take much longer to make a decision, so you’re likely to close your Fund IA before you close Fund I. As such, your first investments out of the fund might be 50-50 from each fund. But as you finish closing your Fund I, you will need to rebalance your allocation into earlier deals, like changing it from a 50-50 allocation between the two funds to 90-10. As such, in your term sheets, make sure you include the “right to transfer securities to affiliates.” And make it clear to your founders why that’s in there before everyone signs.
68/ If you’re building a concentrated portfolio, think about portfolio construction from a bottom-up perspective, rather than top-down. How many unicorns/decacorns do you need to return the fund? How often have you historically seen them in your inbox? That’ll be your deployment schedule. And subsequently, your capital call schedule.
69/ “Fund management is irrelevant unless there are winners in the portfolio.” – Laura Thompson
70/ Calculate your mark ups on priced rounds rather than valuation caps on SAFEs. Your TVPI and IRR may look nice in the short-term, and may help you raise from individual LPs. But once you start talking to institutions, you look deceitful or have no idea what you’re doing.
71/ Avoid overly large GP commits. If you invest too much of your own net worth into a fund, you’re going to make decisions that sacrifice the long game of the fund for short term personal liquidity, like selling secondaries to buy a house. Don’t go higher than 10% of your net worth. – Sheel Mohnot
72/ “For funds that are <$20MM, the GP commitment is fairly meaningless in the evaluation of a fund. Either the person is already taking a great opportunity cost by running such a small fund or has independent personal wealth where a small GP commitment is irrelevant to them.” – Samir Kaji
73/ “Most LPs allow you to reinvest returns 18-36 months after the investment period. The early wins are often small and don’t impact the returns so you are better off reinvesting to go for another unicorn. This is a game of outliers.” – Henri Pierre-Jacques
74/ “Management fee schedule adjustments: Pause or slow down fees in ’23 (with authority delegated to LPAC to avoid conflicts of interest)” – Chris Harvey (timestamped Feb 13, 2023). A way to leverage your LPAC to communicate fund decisions to the rest of your LPs
75/ “What % of companies successfully got funded from investment to the next round?
Seed —> Series A should be >35%.
Series A —> Series B should be >50%.
Series B —> Series C should be >50%.
And, Series C —> Series D+ should be >60%.” – Aman Verjee
76/ As a long-term investor, you have to generate at least three times the risk-free rate (3-month T-bonds, bank interest rates, etc.) to have an investment make sense in the long-term. – Chamath Palihapitiya, speaking when T-bonds’ rate is 6.5%, meaning a private investment must generate at least 20-25% for it to make sense
Selling positions
77/ “In consumer and consumer social, advocate more aggressively for selling along the way. The hype cycle of consumer means heat and traction do not have the sustainability of enterprise ARR and so more weight placed on selling some portion earlier there.” – Harry Stebbings
78/ “Pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered. Even if we believe a company has tremendous longterm upside, it’s not inappropriate to take some money off the table in order to manage that risk. As we’re recently reminded, markets go down, not just up. Just be aware of the incentives, emotions, and other factors at play. It’s ok to behave one way before you hit your DPI target and another way after, but understand how those factors produce better or worse possible outcomes. This is also true with regards to recycling. If we can sell partially out of a position and put those proceeds into one that we believe has more incremental upside, that’s accretive to our results.” – Hunter Walk
79/ “Generally once a position is worth 3x the fund sell 1/3rd to return 1x the fund (if there is liquidity). […] For the hot names you will get a bunch of inbound. Negotiate to get a price you like. For less hot names, just talk to the investors leading the next round and see if they want to add to their position. A lot of times they do and don’t mind buying out earlier investors.” – Sheel Mohnot
80/ “For public shares, we’ve landed on the following model:
1/3rd immediately (either first-day lockup expires or immediate on direct listing)
1/3rd 6 months after
1/3rd up to our discretion
Here’s why — The first third books your win. If you do seed, you likely have a huge position by the time you hold public shares. The second third allows the stock price to stabilize after the market has been hit with lots of supply from VCs doing distributions. The last third allows you to have an opinion on the stock/market — however, you can choose to distribute this third anytime, including alongside or after the previous thirds.” – Chad Byers
81/ If you’re a reasonably good fund, you should return at least 1x your fund (1x DPI) within 5-7 years. – Chamath Palihapitiya and Jason Rowley
LP management
82/ Early funds generally have 30 LPs in the fund. Fund I is often an exception.
83/ A general rule of thumb is to not have any one LP contribute more than 25% of the fund, or else you might lose control when you have such a large “shareholder”.
84/ “After my LPs wire their money, I send them an intake form where I ask the question: How would you describe yourself as an LP? I have a number of statements they can select to indicate whether they are a newer or more experienced LP, if they’d like to be more active with founders, how often they’d like to communicate with me, and if they are interested in co-investment opportunities and events. I have another question following that: If you want to be more active, what are ways you enjoy helping?” – Sarah Smith
85/ “Be thoughtful about how you’re managing your time, so that you don’t turn into a full-time venture professor. You’re an investor, a GP. That’s what you’re getting paid to do.” – Arjun Dev Arora
86/ “Avoid LPs who ask you to give up economics as a GP or change your terms. LPs who want to negotiate lower management fees, a different carry structure, or they want to own 20% of the general partnership for the next three funds are best avoided if possible. They want to change the terms that everyone else has. I wouldn’t allow that. If other LPs find out (and they eventually do), it would cause my LPs to lose trust in me and rightfully be frustrated that they got worse terms.” – Sarah Smith
87/ “If someone does ask for it, and if they aren’t a large enough check, we tell them, ‘We like to reserve this spot for our largest LPs because they have the largest exposure in our fund. We’re open to you being a member in our LPAC, if you increase your check size.” That way, you can leave the ball in their court. Either, they won’t push further or they’ll commit more capital to the fund.” – Eric Bahn
88/ “If you’re in your Fund I or II, like I am, you’re still figuring shit out. You’re still testing what works and resonates and what doesn’t. I ask them, ‘what have you seen other managers do in this situation?’” – Paige Finn Doherty
89/ “The average, for a normal venture fund, is around 5-7 years to call 90% of the capital.” – Chamath Palihapitiya
SPVs/Syndicates
90/ There are two types of syndicate leads: “marketers” and “connoisseurs.” The former focuses on volume, which lead to more noise than signal. The latter focuses on quality, and as “tastemakers” lead to higher signal over noise. As LPs, quality may matter more than quantity, especially when you’re most likely diversified by being in several other syndicates already. Inspired by Julian Weisser.
91/ If you’re warehousing SPVs for your fund, do note that the number of unique LPs in your SPV(s) count towards your accredited investor limit.
92/ If you’re an LP in an SPV and agree for it to be warehoused into a fund, you are forgoing your right to the individual deal for access to the fund’s portfolio of deals.
93/ As the syndicate lead, set the minimum check size at or less than your own check size.
94/ Your GP commit into your SPV is directly proportional to your net worth. The greater your net worth, the more you’re expected to contribute. Any less, would be a negative signal. That said, the less of a net worth you have, the more you’re expected to be a great curator of deals.
Succession planning
95/ “The best way to think about succession planning is that you have to have team members at different parts of their life. Different generations. Even if they’re non-founding partners, if they all retire at the same time, you can’t build a legacy.” – An investor with 9-figure AUM
96/ Structure your fund to have a generational off-ramp for compensation. A lot of funds are structured so that payout is done through the management company, and so owning equity in the management company becomes increasingly more expensive as the firm matures and has greater AUM, etc. So the next generation, in order to succeed the firm, must buy out the previous generation’s equity. So, leadership transitions are not easy. Instead, structure your firm so that the management company doesn’t have value, where the value is at the GP. So transitions are a lot easier. – Maha Ibrahim
Tax planning
97/ When invest in a startup via SAFEs or convertible notes, your QSBS timer counts when the SAFE converts on equity round, not during the convertible round.
98/ As a GP who takes management fees through a management company, often LLC, you don’t receive W-2’s. As such, you can’t withhold taxes, so you have to be disciplined on cash management. “Outside of federal and state tax, there is a massive self-employment tax of 12.4% on up to $147,000 of earnings. And an additional 2.9% on any earnings.” – Jarrid Tingle
99/ The origin of the 1% GP commit comes from taxation laws prior to 1996. But even now, “in order for GPs to avoid their carried interest being taxed as ordinary income vs. long-term capital gains, many GPs still follow safe harbor.” – Courtney McCrea and Sara Zulkosky. While this isolates GPs who aren’t independently wealthy or are well-capitalized, in lieu of the typical cash contribution, I see a lot more emerging GPs warehouse deals and recycle carry.
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Not too long ago, I came across a question on Quora that I had to double click on: Why should founders care about VC brand? Money is money, isn’t it? While the question itself seemed to have a come from a less-informed perspective, I found it to be a useful exercise to once again go through the checklist of founder-investor fit.
Money, frankly, is just money. A Benjamin will look the same and work the same as any other Benjamin out there. Assuming you don’t need anything else other than money, I’d recommend other sources of funding other than venture funding, i.e.:
(Equity) crowdfunding,
Rev share,
Angels – high net-worth individuals who write checks in the 1000s to 10s of 1000s of dollars;
Also worth looking into, but are representative of the VC model, are super angels and solo capitalists. Many of whom might be leading their own rolling funds (more context) now;
Government (public) and private grants – really small sums of money, but money nonetheless;
Accelerators/incubators – less upfront capital. But the partnerships they have with other startup services save you a lot of money (i.e. AWS, Adobe Suite, etc.);
Selling domain names (yes, I have a friend who initially funded his business by doing that, but other than that, I’m kidding);
And I’m sure I missed some others out there.
On the other hand, most founders who raise VC funding want something more than just monetary capital, including, but not limited to:
Mentorship/advisorship –
Ex-operators who can give you tactical advice,
Former founders who can empathize with you,
VCs who can check your blind side and had previous portfolio founders who have gone through what you’re going through now,
People who have access to resources that will aid you on the founding journey (ideally not distract you),
And frankly, people who’ll be there for you when you have to make the tough calls,
Highly recommend Harry Hurst’s tweet about the CS:H ratio (check size: helpfulness, which I elaborate on here) as a mental model to figure out which VCs depending on fund size/check size can help you the founder the most at the stage you’re at.
If you’re trying to fill up a round, a brand name investor can easily help you fill in the rest of the round with their network and their participation alone. They’ll also help you raise downstream capital – directly or indirectly.
It’ll be easier to find customers. With a brand name VC, you also get quite a bit of media attention from Forbes, TC, NY Times, and so on. Customers are more likely to trust you knowing that you’re backed by a recognizable brand, especially the folks on the other side of the chasm on the adoption curve.
It’ll be easier to hire world-class talent. Your business, in their mind, is less likely to go out of business tomorrow. And while you’re not looking for candidates who seek stability, it does give the candidates you do want to hire a peace of mind and confidence that you have external validation.
There’s a saying that the difference between a hallucination and a vision is that other people can see the latter. It’s really a chicken and egg problem. I’m not saying a VC’s brand will guarantee the success of your startup, but I do believe it will help, with the underlying assumption that you pick the right VC. Whereas it used to be a differentiator a decade ago, all VCs these days say they’re founder-first or founder-friendly. But unfortunately not all are. They might be if things are going well. But the true tells are what happens when things don’t go well. Here are some of my favorite questions to ask portfolio founders before you work with a VC. And how to find founder-investor fit.
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Last week, I was lucky enough to jump on a call with the founder of Pulley, Yin Wu. Backed some of the best investors out there including Stripe, General Catalyst, YC, Elad Gil, just to name a few, Pulley is the ultimate tool for cap table management. In addition, Yin is a 4-peat founder, one of which led to an acquisition by Microsoft, and three of which, including Pulley, went through YC.
In our conversation, we covered many things, but one particular theme stood out to me the most: how she built a culture of ruthless prioritization.
